Former Ukrainian Prosecutor Accuses Joe Biden of Corruption

[Marener]

Or maybe you media lies to you and omits inconvenient truths to protect the left. Both of us are dependant on reporting as we were not there nor do we have access to all the necessary information. It isn’t just coincidental that the MSM reporting almost always aligns/protects Democrats. Did that ever occur to you or do you just believe that Democrats are pure as driven snow? Damning pictures of Hunter come out and the first thing the MSM does is try to frame the narrative that they are fake, then the government gets involved and tries to label it misinformation and have them banned from social media. If you were honest, you would see that has been going on here, particularly since Obama.

No one was really surprised by the pictures of Hunter Biden, it’s just that none of us really cared. We knew he wasn’t a good person, but I don’t see why that should affect our politics. Hunter is not and never will be a politician and no one is voting for him.

I don’t think Dems are pure as the driven snow. Look at Bob Menendez. No one is out there trying to defend him. Dems are trying to claim he was subject to political persecution or unfair prosecutors. Contrast that with what happens when Republicans are charged.

When the facts benefit Dems, those are the facts that are reported. When the facts don’t benefit them, they’re also reported.

Right wing media has absolutely zero ethical problem completely omitting any inconvenient facts. They barely report any facts to begin with, because there really aren’t right wing journalists. You simply don’t hear about it. When we tell you about it, you ignore it and claim “media bias”.

Shokin is a great example. They omit any outside information, and just let Shokin talk and set the entire narrative. No push back. No fact checking. No other perspective.

This has led to so many right wing myths about the feds causing January 6th, about Paul Pelosi being assaulted by his “lover”, about Biden selling oil to China, about a million things. Right wing media truly puts its consumers into an alternative universe.

 

[DBA]

When the facts benefit Dems, those are the facts that are reported. When the facts don’t benefit them, they’re also reported.

You can’t possibly believe this. This is patently false. I mean to a point of absurdly false. The MSM scrubs everything to protect Biden and the party.

As for Burisma, you aren’t using common sense and not putting 2 and 2 together. Hunter wasn’t hired and paid for nothing. Archer told us exactly why Hunter was hired. The ”big guy” is somebody with some power. I wonder who that could be? The CEO of Burisma got off easy after Shokin was fired. A lot of money when to Hunter during this time. Joe LIED about knowing Hunter’s business associates. he was on 20+ phone calls with them. Seriously, you guys are completely lost.

Hunter Biden business associates close with replacement Ukrainian prosecutor

 

[Marener]

You can’t possibly believe this. This is patently false. I mean to a point of absurdly false. The MSM scrubs everything to protect Biden and the party.

As for Burisma, you aren’t using common sense and not putting 2 and 2 together. Hunter wasn’t hired and paid for nothing. Archer told us exactly why Hunter was hired. The ”big guy” is somebody with some power. I wonder who that could be? The CEO of Burisma got off easy after Shokin was fired. A lot of money when to Hunter during this time. Joe LIED about knowing Hunter’s business associates. he was on 20+ phone calls with them. Seriously, you guys are completely lost.

Hunter Biden business associates close with replacement Ukrainian prosecutor

Again, the thing that is totally obscured by right wing media is that Shokin was not going after Zlochevsky or any other oligarch. His office was filled with prosecutors extorting people for bribes and Shokin was doing nothing to combat it. There was no crusade by Joe Biden to eliminate Shokin. The desire to eliminate Shokin came from throughout Ukraine and the rest of the western international community, none of whom the right wing media will ever allow to speak.

The right wing media tries to claim Shokin was pure as the driven snow because they need that to be true for their narrative.

 

[berg80]

It is hillarious how you believe the fact checking of every snotty nosed so called journalist out there.

I don't take the fact checking at face value. But since it is meticulously supported by links to other sources it makes for a factually irrefutable narrative.
We know why you cling so desperately to all the made up cow dung about Biden. You need a counter narrative to contrast, in this case, the extortion of Zelensky by Trump for which we have a transcript. The kind of evidence of Trump's guilt completely absent in any of the allegations made against Joe Biden.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Post the certified tape then. But... you can't... it does not exist.

Certified tape!
Imagine being so brainwashed you make this up to alter reality.

 

[berg80]

Have fun.

WashingtonCNN —
President Donald Trump is facing intense criticism over a July phone call during which, according to a person familiar with the matter, he pressed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate the son of former Vice President Joe Biden, a leading candidate to face him in the 2020 presidential election.

Under fire, Trump has revived one of his favorite defensive tactics: trying to turn the spotlight onto his opponent.

Trump has made a series of allegations about Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden over the last week. The essence of Trump’s argument is that Joe Biden was improperly trying to help Hunter, who served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, when Joe Biden pressured the Ukrainian government to fire the country’s prosecutor general.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/23/politics/fact-check-trump-ukraine-hunter-biden-joe-biden/index.html

Trump’s missing context: What happened with the Ukrainian prosecutor​

In castigating Biden’s effort to get the prosecutor general fired, Trump has declined to mention an important fact: a whole lot of other people were also trying to get him fired at the time.

The Obama administration, American allies, the International Monetary Fund and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists, among others, had all made clear that they were displeased with the performance of Viktor Shokin, who became prosecutor general in 2015.

Shokin was widely faulted for declining to bring prosecutions of elites’ corruption, and he was even accused of hindering corruption investigations. His deputy, Vitaliy Kasko, resigned in February 2016, alleging that Shokin’s office was itself corrupt.

 

[berg80]

This is a mic drop moment.

Prosecutor General Shokin sacked by Rada​

Prosecutor General Shokin sacked by Rada

The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine voted to grant consent to the dismissal by President Petro Poroshenko of Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin (Resolution No.4122).

www.unian.info

 

[JoeB131]

Shokin being fired was the best thing to happen for Zlochevsky. Any investigation ended with shortly thereafter with him getting off the hook with no FURTHER damage. You need better sources. Hunter was hired to protect Zlochevsky from prosecution. Period.

Except Shokin also failed to provide documentation to the UK for prosecution of Zlochevsky, and the UK had to unfreeze his assets. .

Devon Archer, a board member and colleague of Hunter, stated the same and then followed it up with “Then he[Shokin] was fired, and then somehow Burisma was let off the hook.”

There is no way a reasonable, unbiased person couldn’t see what was going on with the Hunter/Burisma deal. It is well beyond obvious.

Only in your bizarre conspiracy mind.

So how did Biden get the IMF, EU, Obama, the Ukrainian Rada, and Republicans in Congress to all agree that Shokin had to go? That would make the man a master manipulator!

Or Shokin was a corrupt knob everyone thought needed to go, and Biden embellished his role in it.


Republicans: Joe Biden is a master manipulator of the first order.
Also Republicans: Joe Biden is a senile old man who doesn't know where he is half the time.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Certified tape!
Imagine being so brainwashed you make this up to alter reality.

thanks for admitting no evidence exists

 

[eagle7-31]

WashingtonCNN —
President Donald Trump is facing intense criticism over a July phone call during which, according to a person familiar with the matter, he pressed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate the son of former Vice President Joe Biden, a leading candidate to face him in the 2020 presidential election.

Under fire, Trump has revived one of his favorite defensive tactics: trying to turn the spotlight onto his opponent.

Trump has made a series of allegations about Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden over the last week. The essence of Trump’s argument is that Joe Biden was improperly trying to help Hunter, who served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, when Joe Biden pressured the Ukrainian government to fire the country’s prosecutor general.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/23/politics/fact-check-trump-ukraine-hunter-biden-joe-biden/index.html

Trump’s missing context: What happened with the Ukrainian prosecutor​

In castigating Biden’s effort to get the prosecutor general fired, Trump has declined to mention an important fact: a whole lot of other people were also trying to get him fired at the time.

The Obama administration, American allies, the International Monetary Fund and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists, among others, had all made clear that they were displeased with the performance of Viktor Shokin, who became prosecutor general in 2015.

Shokin was widely faulted for declining to bring prosecutions of elites’ corruption, and he was even accused of hindering corruption investigations. His deputy, Vitaliy Kasko, resigned in February 2016, alleging that Shokin’s office was itself corrupt.

Go ahead keep trying to spin Biden's own words.

 

[jknowgood]

No just Biden saying on tape fire the prosecutor investigating my son and you get your money. Straight from Biden's mouth.

If Trump did it, they would want him executed.

 

[jknowgood]

thanks for admitting no evidence exists

Did you not see the tape? Holy cow, you loons do not pay attention. To the person you vote for. Just the opposite party.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

no evidence from the tape, though

 

[DBA]

Again, the thing that is totally obscured by right wing media is that Shokin was not going after Zlochevsky or any other oligarch. His office was filled with prosecutors extorting people for bribes and Shokin was doing nothing to combat it. There was no crusade by Joe Biden to eliminate Shokin. The desire to eliminate Shokin came from throughout Ukraine and the rest of the western international community, none of whom the right wing media will ever allow to speak.

The right wing media tries to claim Shokin was pure as the driven snow because they need that to be true for their narrative.

And the guy that replaced Shokin not only didn’t investigate, but shut it down all together. What does that tell you?

 

[kaz]

Former Ukrainian Prosecutor Accuses Joe Biden of Corruption​

He nailed that one

 

[kaz]

So now the Trumpers are taking the word of the fucking asshole that got his ass fired because his office was corrupt as hell?
Gimme a break

That's a lie. Anyone who knows anything about Biden knows how right he was. He's right on this one no matter what he has or hasn't done. If a shoplifter calls a mugger a criminal, that he's a shoplifter doesn't make him wrong

 

[Lesh]

That's a lie. Anyone who knows anything about Biden knows how right he was. He's right on this one no matter what he has or hasn't done. If a shoplifter calls a mugger a criminal, that he's a shoplifter doesn't make him wrong

Interesting bit of gibberish as usual

 

[kaz]

Interesting bit of gibberish as usual

If you have nothing you don't have to post that. You can not post you know since it says the same thing

 

[Marener]

And the guy that replaced Shokin not only didn’t investigate, but shut it down all together. What does that tell you?

It doesn’t tell me much. It could be that Poroshenko was the real problem. It could be that finding a clean PG in Ukraine is next to impossible.

There’s zero information that Lutsenko was chosen by Biden to do anything.

In fact, a lot of this bubbled up when Lutsenko was scared he was about to be canned by Zelensky. Lutsenko started running to Giuliani to try to help Trump and became a significant asset in this narrative.

But you didn’t know anything about that because the right wing media doesn’t do actual journalism. To actually be informed, you need to go beyond your safe space.

The Ukrainian Prosecutor Behind Trumpâs Impeachment

How the efforts of Yuriy Lutsenko and Rudy Giuliani to smear Joe Biden led to a Presidential crisis.

www.newyorker.com

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That's a lie. Anyone who knows anything about Biden knows how right he was. He's right on this one no matter what he has or hasn't done. If a shoplifter calls a mugger a criminal, that he's a shoplifter doesn't make him wrong

Then you are going to support all the Republicans who testify against in all of his trials.