For the love of aardvark booty!!! Will somebody PLEASE give us the damn EVIDENCE??? Nothing but baseless allegations!!! BASELESS!!!

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The real question is going to be which city will democrats burn down first after the dem cheating is proven and litigated and trump retains office.

What cheating?

You'll definitely need to factually establish a solid answer for that question before yours becomes remotely relevant.

The suspicion is clear and worthy of speculation. Your denial is totally dishonest.

The suspicion of cheating? There's no evidence of wide spread voter fraud or a 'stolen' election.

Making your hypothetical uselessly unlikely. And thus, disingenuous.

Then you’re just dishonest.

Your hypothetical is astronomically unlikely. Making it disingenuous.

Bullshit. Unconstitutional means to change voting rules in several swing states are being challenged. That’s part of the overall challenge. You have to wait for the process to play out.

 

[Skylar]

The real question is going to be which city will democrats burn down first after the dem cheating is proven and litigated and trump retains office.

What cheating?

You'll definitely need to factually establish a solid answer for that question before yours becomes remotely relevant.

The suspicion is clear and worthy of speculation. Your denial is totally dishonest.

The suspicion of cheating? There's no evidence of wide spread voter fraud or a 'stolen' election.

Making your hypothetical uselessly unlikely. And thus, disingenuous.

Then you’re just dishonest.

Your hypothetical is astronomically unlikely. Making it disingenuous.

Bullshit. Unconstitutional means to change voting rules in several swing states are being challenged. That’s part of the overall challenge. You have to wait for the process to play out.

Really? Because Pennsylvania certifies tomorrow morning.

What do they know that you don't?

 

[Slade3200]

This is all FAKE, right? This guy is LYING!!!

Liar.

You can call them lies or you can say he’s mistaken or you can say he is making assumptions of possible fraud and not actually pointing to evidence of fraud. I think all can apply but take your pick

Making assumptions?
Did you read what he wrote? He spells out clearly what he believed, in his expert opinion, occurred. I wouldn’t call that an assumption and dismiss it like that. He can’t physically prove it without access to the machines, but he pretty clearly lays out the evidence he has for making the statements he does.
Could he be wrong? Possibly.
Could he be right? possibly.
To just dismiss this as some people seem to do is foolish.

You quite literally just explain how his statements are assumptions. Then you backed it up by saying that he doesn’t yet have access to the evidence. So when he and Yrump go out and make claims that Biden stole the election because if fraud and whatever wild conspiracies they’ve come up with, without the evidence to prove it then it is wildly irresponsible and just plain wrong. Rudy and Sid should lose their law licenses and Trump should never be allowed to work in public service again after the disgraceful unsubstantiated statements they are making

I want to see what the defense expert witness says about all this.

That's going to be very interesting.

(most likely none will even bother)

Which trial is he testifying in?

 

[Crepitus]

Pretty damning evidence.

What evidence? It's an opinion.

 

[Crepitus]

Do you really thunk they're going to ruin their own court case by disclosing evidence before the court trial?

There are already over 200 eyewitnesses who have signed affidavits under penalty of perjury. And many more coming in each day. Most will testify in court.

Until the evidence is presented in court...YOU'LL GET NOTHING AND YOU'LL LIKE IT!

You people are morons.....

If the police arrested you and threw you in jail....but did it without PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE TO ANYONE -- would you be ok with it??

Would you say, "oh, they are just withholding the evidence because they don't wanna show their hand"

I swear you people are some authoritarian worshiping sycophants

They've charged these states for conspiring to fraud the federal government electoral system (It becomes a federal case when one on the candidates is a federal official) and the misuse of federal funds to buy equipment with the intent to fraud the federal government.
All cases are handled by pressing charges first and then prepare their case for trial afterward. At the trial that is when the evidence are presented before the judge.

But all cases starts off with charges without showing any evidence. It is like when Clint Eastwood was being sued for not having accommodations for the handicaps at his motels. But he did. He presented photos of his establishment before the judge before the case. And the judge orders him to pay for the court proceedings first so then he will look at those photos. But the start the case for him, the rich? They have to pay over $ 250,000 for the court fees. But the lawyer of the disabled guy offered Clint a settlement of a $150,000 in order to drop the suit. So that he will not have to pay for the court fees. And they have done this to Dennis Rodman's sex assault case. Offered him to dropped the case if he pays them the settlement.
But Clint went on and paid the court fees and fought and won the case.


.

52 U.S. Code § 20511 - Criminal penalties

www.law.cornell.edu

924. Defrauding the Government of Money or Property

www.justice.gov

Nobody has been charged.

 

[Aletheia4u]

Do you really thunk they're going to ruin their own court case by disclosing evidence before the court trial?

There are already over 200 eyewitnesses who have signed affidavits under penalty of perjury. And many more coming in each day. Most will testify in court.

Until the evidence is presented in court...YOU'LL GET NOTHING AND YOU'LL LIKE IT!

You people are morons.....

If the police arrested you and threw you in jail....but did it without PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE TO ANYONE -- would you be ok with it??

Would you say, "oh, they are just withholding the evidence because they don't wanna show their hand"

I swear you people are some authoritarian worshiping sycophants

They've charged these states for conspiring to fraud the federal government electoral system (It becomes a federal case when one on the candidates is a federal official) and the misuse of federal funds to buy equipment with the intent to fraud the federal government.
All cases are handled by pressing charges first and then prepare their case for trial afterward. At the trial that is when the evidence are presented before the judge.

But all cases starts off with charges without showing any evidence. It is like when Clint Eastwood was being sued for not having accommodations for the handicaps at his motels. But he did. He presented photos of his establishment before the judge before the case. And the judge orders him to pay for the court proceedings first so then he will look at those photos. But the start the case for him, the rich? They have to pay over $ 250,000 for the court fees. But the lawyer of the disabled guy offered Clint a settlement of a $150,000 in order to drop the suit. So that he will not have to pay for the court fees. And they have done this to Dennis Rodman's sex assault case. Offered him to dropped the case if he pays them the settlement.
But Clint went on and paid the court fees and fought and won the case.


.

52 U.S. Code § 20511 - Criminal penalties

www.law.cornell.edu

924. Defrauding the Government of Money or Property

www.justice.gov

Nobody has been charged.

Massive Bombshell! Supreme Court Preparing To Certify Trumps Reelection

Alex Jones breaks down Trump's path to victory, via through the Supreme Court

79days.news

 

[Skylar]

Do you really thunk they're going to ruin their own court case by disclosing evidence before the court trial?

There are already over 200 eyewitnesses who have signed affidavits under penalty of perjury. And many more coming in each day. Most will testify in court.

Until the evidence is presented in court...YOU'LL GET NOTHING AND YOU'LL LIKE IT!

You people are morons.....

If the police arrested you and threw you in jail....but did it without PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE TO ANYONE -- would you be ok with it??

Would you say, "oh, they are just withholding the evidence because they don't wanna show their hand"

I swear you people are some authoritarian worshiping sycophants

They've charged these states for conspiring to fraud the federal government electoral system (It becomes a federal case when one on the candidates is a federal official) and the misuse of federal funds to buy equipment with the intent to fraud the federal government.
All cases are handled by pressing charges first and then prepare their case for trial afterward. At the trial that is when the evidence are presented before the judge.

But all cases starts off with charges without showing any evidence. It is like when Clint Eastwood was being sued for not having accommodations for the handicaps at his motels. But he did. He presented photos of his establishment before the judge before the case. And the judge orders him to pay for the court proceedings first so then he will look at those photos. But the start the case for him, the rich? They have to pay over $ 250,000 for the court fees. But the lawyer of the disabled guy offered Clint a settlement of a $150,000 in order to drop the suit. So that he will not have to pay for the court fees. And they have done this to Dennis Rodman's sex assault case. Offered him to dropped the case if he pays them the settlement.
But Clint went on and paid the court fees and fought and won the case.


.

52 U.S. Code § 20511 - Criminal penalties

www.law.cornell.edu

924. Defrauding the Government of Money or Property

www.justice.gov

Nobody has been charged.

Massive Bombshell! Supreme Court Preparing To Certify Trumps Reelection

Alex Jones breaks down Trump's path to victory, via through the Supreme Court

79days.news

Says Infowars.

Backed by jack shit.

Shocker.

Its fun to watch the Election Deniers, slowly backed into a corner......moving their way down the source ladder. Starting with reputable sources, then retreating to right wing media sources, then falling back to random wordpress blogs backed by nothing.

And finally left with nothing but Infowars.

 

[jackflash]

We'll just have to wait for the accusations to be run through the courts filter. Any debris caught in the filter will be the fraud & corruption. The material that makes it through the filter will be the verified evidence which will hopefully let us(American citizenry) know the extent of the fraud perpetrated upon us ALL. Tragically for the statist left prez Trump will most likely(?) retain office(not sure how this would play out) until the fraud allegations are settled.
If what I just stated is accurate(?) that could be a looooog time into the future like Joe could be residing in a assisted living home by then? That would leave Kamala Harris(?) or just have to let prez Trump finish out a second term? I mean the attorney$ certainly will be IN NO HURRY TO ARRIVE @ A DECI$ION. With the attorney$/court$ involved anything could happen like prez Trump could end up getting the rocket man treatment for all I know. If I had to bet the farm on it I'd say fraud will be proved. I'd list deep state &/or foreign intervention. If prez Trump somehow retains office I predict a warp 10 full senile attack from the statist left even bigger than when Alfonzo Gore lost the decision to Bushwhacker jr.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

This is all FAKE, right? This guy is LYING!!!

Liar.

Is the guy lying?

Maybe... Maybe not...

Are the Courts going to accept his opinion?

At this time they have not...

Will the USSC have the final say?

Most likely and Biden will be sworn in on January 20th 2021 and this guy will be forgotten about...

 

[Care4all]

How 'bout a little re-cap?

Here are the key allegations the lawyers presented:

1. Observers were allegedly prevented from watching mail-in ballots being opened. Giuliani said that many mail-in ballots were opened without observers being able to check that they were properly signed, a key protection against fraud. Those votes, he said, were “null and void,” especially where the envelopes had been discarded, making recounts useless.

2. Allegedly unequal application of the law in Democratic counties. In Pennsylvania, whose state supreme court created new, relaxed voting rules before the election, Giuliani alleged that absentee voters in Democratic counties were allowed to “cure” defects in their ballots, while voters in Republican counties, which obeyed the state law as written, were not.

3. Voters allegedly arrived at the polls to discover other people had voted for them. Giuliani said that many provisional ballots cast in Pittsburgh were submitted by people who showed up to vote in person, only to be told that they had voted already. He alleged that Democrats had filled out absentee ballots for other people, hoping they would not show up.

4. Election officials were allegedly told not to look for defects in ballots, and to backdate ballots. Giuliani cited an affidavit from an official who swore she was told not to exclude absentee ballots for defects, and to backdate ballots so they would not appear to have been received after Election Day, to avoid a Supreme Court order to sequester those ballots.

5. Ballots casting votes for Joe Biden and no other candidates were allegedly run several times through machines. Giuliani said that there were 60 witnesses in Michigan who would attest to ballots being “produced” quickly and counted twice or thrice. He said that a minimum of 60,000 ballots, and a maximum of 100,000 ballots, were allegedly affected.

6. Absentee ballots were accepted in Wisconsin without being applied for first. Giuliani noted that Wisconsin state law was stricter regarding absentee ballots than most other states are, yet alleged that 60,000 absentee ballots were counted in the Milwaukee area, and 40,000 in the Madison area, without having been applied for properly by the voters who cast them.

7. There were allegedly “overvotes,” with some precincts allegedly recording more voters than residents, among other problems. Giuliani said there was an unusually large number of overvotes in precincts in Michigan and in Wisconsin, which he alleged was the reason that Republicans on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers had refused to certify the results there this week. He also alleged that there were some out-of-state voters in Georgia, and people who had cast votes twice there.

8. Voting machines and software are allegedly owned by companies with ties to the Venezuelan regime and to left-wing donor George Soros. Sidney Powell argued that U.S. votes were being counted overseas, and that Dominion voting machines and Smartmatic software were controlled by foreign interests, manipulating algorithms to change the results. Powell noted specifically that Smartmatic’s owners included two Venezuelan nationals, whom she alleged had ties to the regime of Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro. The legal team alleged that there were statistical anomalies, such as huge batches of votes for Biden, that could not be explained except as manipulation — which, they alleged, happened in the wee hours of the morning as vote-counting had stalled. (The companies have disputed these allegations vigorously.)

9. The Constitution provides a process for electing a president if the vote is corrupted. Jenna Ellis argued that the media, had usurped the power to declare the winner of the election. She made the point, citing Federalist No. 68, that the constitutional process of selecting a president had procedural safeguards against corruption and foreign influence.
Giuliani said that the campaign believed that enough votes were flawed — more than double the margins between Biden and Trump in key states — that the president had a path to victory.

Giuliani presented evidence in the form of sworn affidavits, citing two and noting that the campaign had many more from private individuals.

He noted that several lawsuits that had been dismissed had been filed by private individuals, not the campaign directly. He said lawsuits might be filed in Arizona, and that the campaign was also examining irregularities in New Mexico and Virginia, though he said he did not think there were enough disputed votes in the latter.

Giuliani also took on the media, arguing that they had provided misleading information and condoned threats against Trump’s legal team.

1-he's confused, when ballots are opened, the signature matching has already been done... ballot envelopes are opened and separate for counting AFTER there has already been a signature match.

2- the judge ruled that the law in place did not mention that curing a ballot was NOT allowed....shame on the county managers that did not offer curing.

3-the claims that someone had voted in their place were not true.... absentee ballot envelopes were pulled and the signature on the absentee ballots matched theirs.... these were likely the Trumpers that heard Trump tell them to mail in their absentee ballot and go in and try to vote in person.... if they don't have their absentee ballot, then vote again.

There was a stink about this...saying Trump was trying to get his followers, to vote twice.

4-This girl's story doesn't add up... she said she was in training in September and her training supervisor taught her to back date ballots....blah blah blah....

First, in September, there was no court that ordered the ballots stamped Nov 3 could be accepted 3 days after the election and no final court decision to keep them separate back in September, when she said this happened, this court decision was not made until the last week in October, then by Alito on election day or the day after....
So how could her supervisor in Sept tell her that or e enough know these ballots would be called to be separated?

Second, there were no other poll workers in the same training class as hers in September, that were told the same things that the girl claimed. A training supervisor is for a whole class, with all those training... not some one on one deal....

5- you can't run ballots through twice and all the other bull crap.... there are checks and balances which prevent it....ie. you can't have more absentee ballots run through the counter, than absentee envelopes....

6- Have no idea what that claim even means??????? Huh??

7-there were clerical errors, as with all elections, that did not balance....these were very small amounts that would not affect the election results. When Trump was elected in Michigan in 2016, over 80% of the precincts were out of balance, which did NOT STOP HIS /THE CERTIFICATION..... an audit to fix errors is done, by law, AFTER the certification is complete, according to Michigan Secretary of state

8- This is all utter bull crap, conspiracy with Not An Ounce of truth to it. COMPLETELY MADE UP WHACK A DOODLE stuff... Venezuela, Chavez and another Dictator, Clinton foundation, Dominion, Germany military raid, Barcelona, Soros, Gov Kemp, Feinstein, Pelosi, cia, Fbi, blah blah blah.... did I leave anyone out that she blamed.... she's bat shit crazy....

9- simply bull crap. The apparent winner has been called by the media election gurus for nearly the past 200 years... on or near, election day. Trump was called the winner by the media on election night, 2016.

The state's do not have a certified winner, until about a month later, which is the only thing that counts as far as election law.... if state certification is different that the media's call, the certification winner is who counts.

 

[Care4all]

This is all FAKE, right? This guy is LYING!!!

Liar.

Is the guy lying?

Maybe... Maybe not...

Are the Courts going to accept his opinion?

At this time they have not...

Will the USSC have the final say?

Most likely and Biden will be sworn in on January 20th 2021 and this guy will be forgotten about...

fyi
This guy, listed counties that had more votes than registered voters in his affidavit..... only problem is he listed all counties in MINNESOTA and NOT MICHIGAN, which he claimed were Michigan's...

 

[Devils_Advocate]

This is all FAKE, right? This guy is LYING!!!

Liar.

Is the guy lying?

Maybe... Maybe not...

Are the Courts going to accept his opinion?

At this time they have not...

Will the USSC have the final say?

Most likely and Biden will be sworn in on January 20th 2021 and this guy will be forgotten about...

fyi
This guy, listed counties that had more votes than registered voters in his affidavit..... only problem is he listed all counties in MINNESOTA and NOT MICHIGAN, which he claimed were Michigan's...

Then the evidence is total nonsense that keep on being presented as evidence when they know it is just someone opinion based on faulty information that seem deliberately done to confuse the slow in mind people into believing there was massive voter fraud against Donald John Trump...

In the end the USSC will most likely hauls this nonsense with stating that President Donald John Trump lost the election and the amount of fraud and human error is not enough to overturn the election results...

 

[Crepitus]

Do you really thunk they're going to ruin their own court case by disclosing evidence before the court trial?

There are already over 200 eyewitnesses who have signed affidavits under penalty of perjury. And many more coming in each day. Most will testify in court.

Until the evidence is presented in court...YOU'LL GET NOTHING AND YOU'LL LIKE IT!

You people are morons.....

If the police arrested you and threw you in jail....but did it without PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE TO ANYONE -- would you be ok with it??

Would you say, "oh, they are just withholding the evidence because they don't wanna show their hand"

I swear you people are some authoritarian worshiping sycophants

They've charged these states for conspiring to fraud the federal government electoral system (It becomes a federal case when one on the candidates is a federal official) and the misuse of federal funds to buy equipment with the intent to fraud the federal government.
All cases are handled by pressing charges first and then prepare their case for trial afterward. At the trial that is when the evidence are presented before the judge.

But all cases starts off with charges without showing any evidence. It is like when Clint Eastwood was being sued for not having accommodations for the handicaps at his motels. But he did. He presented photos of his establishment before the judge before the case. And the judge orders him to pay for the court proceedings first so then he will look at those photos. But the start the case for him, the rich? They have to pay over $ 250,000 for the court fees. But the lawyer of the disabled guy offered Clint a settlement of a $150,000 in order to drop the suit. So that he will not have to pay for the court fees. And they have done this to Dennis Rodman's sex assault case. Offered him to dropped the case if he pays them the settlement.
But Clint went on and paid the court fees and fought and won the case.


.

52 U.S. Code § 20511 - Criminal penalties

www.law.cornell.edu

924. Defrauding the Government of Money or Property

www.justice.gov

Nobody has been charged.

Massive Bombshell! Supreme Court Preparing To Certify Trumps Reelection

Alex Jones breaks down Trump's path to victory, via through the Supreme Court

79days.news

Alex jones?

You can't be serious.

 

[Aletheia4u]

Do you really thunk they're going to ruin their own court case by disclosing evidence before the court trial?

There are already over 200 eyewitnesses who have signed affidavits under penalty of perjury. And many more coming in each day. Most will testify in court.

Until the evidence is presented in court...YOU'LL GET NOTHING AND YOU'LL LIKE IT!

You people are morons.....

If the police arrested you and threw you in jail....but did it without PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE TO ANYONE -- would you be ok with it??

Would you say, "oh, they are just withholding the evidence because they don't wanna show their hand"

I swear you people are some authoritarian worshiping sycophants

They've charged these states for conspiring to fraud the federal government electoral system (It becomes a federal case when one on the candidates is a federal official) and the misuse of federal funds to buy equipment with the intent to fraud the federal government.
All cases are handled by pressing charges first and then prepare their case for trial afterward. At the trial that is when the evidence are presented before the judge.

But all cases starts off with charges without showing any evidence. It is like when Clint Eastwood was being sued for not having accommodations for the handicaps at his motels. But he did. He presented photos of his establishment before the judge before the case. And the judge orders him to pay for the court proceedings first so then he will look at those photos. But the start the case for him, the rich? They have to pay over $ 250,000 for the court fees. But the lawyer of the disabled guy offered Clint a settlement of a $150,000 in order to drop the suit. So that he will not have to pay for the court fees. And they have done this to Dennis Rodman's sex assault case. Offered him to dropped the case if he pays them the settlement.
But Clint went on and paid the court fees and fought and won the case.


.

52 U.S. Code § 20511 - Criminal penalties

www.law.cornell.edu

924. Defrauding the Government of Money or Property

www.justice.gov

Nobody has been charged.

Massive Bombshell! Supreme Court Preparing To Certify Trumps Reelection

Alex Jones breaks down Trump's path to victory, via through the Supreme Court

79days.news

Alex jones?

You can't be serious.

 

[Aletheia4u]

 

[Skylar]

Trump is going to end his time in politics the way he started it:

Where have I heard that before? Its on the tip of my tongue.

Anyone?

 

[Skylar]

This is all FAKE, right? This guy is LYING!!!

Liar.

Is the guy lying?

Maybe... Maybe not...

Are the Courts going to accept his opinion?

At this time they have not...

Will the USSC have the final say?

Most likely and Biden will be sworn in on January 20th 2021 and this guy will be forgotten about...

Or...mistaken.

For example, the Estimated Voters from Reported Statistics (his capitalization, not mine).

What estimates? Reported by whom? From when?

These are the very basis of his entire comparative analysis. And he never reveals what they are, where they came from, or provides any information about them.

That's a bit of a big deal

 

[Crepitus]

Do you really thunk they're going to ruin their own court case by disclosing evidence before the court trial?

There are already over 200 eyewitnesses who have signed affidavits under penalty of perjury. And many more coming in each day. Most will testify in court.

Until the evidence is presented in court...YOU'LL GET NOTHING AND YOU'LL LIKE IT!

You people are morons.....

If the police arrested you and threw you in jail....but did it without PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE TO ANYONE -- would you be ok with it??

Would you say, "oh, they are just withholding the evidence because they don't wanna show their hand"

I swear you people are some authoritarian worshiping sycophants

They've charged these states for conspiring to fraud the federal government electoral system (It becomes a federal case when one on the candidates is a federal official) and the misuse of federal funds to buy equipment with the intent to fraud the federal government.
All cases are handled by pressing charges first and then prepare their case for trial afterward. At the trial that is when the evidence are presented before the judge.

But all cases starts off with charges without showing any evidence. It is like when Clint Eastwood was being sued for not having accommodations for the handicaps at his motels. But he did. He presented photos of his establishment before the judge before the case. And the judge orders him to pay for the court proceedings first so then he will look at those photos. But the start the case for him, the rich? They have to pay over $ 250,000 for the court fees. But the lawyer of the disabled guy offered Clint a settlement of a $150,000 in order to drop the suit. So that he will not have to pay for the court fees. And they have done this to Dennis Rodman's sex assault case. Offered him to dropped the case if he pays them the settlement.
But Clint went on and paid the court fees and fought and won the case.


.

52 U.S. Code § 20511 - Criminal penalties

www.law.cornell.edu

924. Defrauding the Government of Money or Property

www.justice.gov

Nobody has been charged.

Massive Bombshell! Supreme Court Preparing To Certify Trumps Reelection

Alex Jones breaks down Trump's path to victory, via through the Supreme Court

79days.news

Alex jones?

You can't be serious.

Mac-inane-y? You can't be serious.