Food Stamps: Just say no to sugary soda

[saveliberty]

I must confess. I think everyone should have access to Cheetos.

 

[SFC Ollie]

will this measure save the gvt any money?

the answer is NO....

and since the answer is NO, then why is it any of our business on what someone else drinks?

Actually Care, we don't know the answer. This idea of cutting soft drinks and sports drinks is a two year test to see if it brings down the cost of health care paid for by NYC.

 

[Care4all]

Yeah, and then hands us out cash on a debit card to go buy food so that grocery chains can line their pockets with the expenditures.

But we're sitting here arguing about fucking SODA

oh, it ain't just for the grocery stores....the banks get money off of issuing the debit cards, I think I had read, as well.

I know Paul...it is absolutely ridiculous that people are arguing for more gvt babysitting and control over our lives.

soda's were abundant when I grew up and we all were not obese back then....

Bet ya computers, and mom's having to work to make ends meet, and all the tv coverage of pedophiles keeps children from actually getting off their buns and physically playing outside....

it keeps adults less active as well

so I guess we should just have our government put a BAN ON COMPUTERS and the internet.

Actually, we're arguing for LESS government control, i.e., reducing options for those on the dole, which makes it a little less cushy and will result in welfare food dollars going much, much further. It's really about pulling back the hand of the government. The government doesn't exist to feed people. That isn't the role of government. It exists to protect people. That's it.

But if you're going to have these programs then make them realistic, and adjust them so they at least can pretend to be something other than an incentive for people to sit on their asses, eat chips and guzzle soda.

huh? jebus allie....don't you think they can "still sit home " eating greasy hamburgers and fatty hotdogs as well? Why pick on soda?

WHY is it any of anyone's business other than the mom and dad feeding their own kids????

The study shown above, said it was WORKING people that are obese....and cost businesses a lot of money....

Are the welfare kids that you get to see, all fat and obese? You would have a better knowledge of that than me.

And is it not true that a family of 4 making $46,000 a year in income, can qualify for food stamps?

 

[Ravi]

If I had my way, the only LIQUID that food stamps would be able to buy would be milk and orange juice.

Skim, lowfat or whole? Organic or non-organic? Florida orange juice or California orange juice?

How about chocolate milk? Milk in plastic containers or only wax cartons?

If it weren't for chocolate milk, my youngest would have rickets.

So, what about people that get earned income tax credits...should we tell them what to spend the money on?

 

[mattskramer]

Skim, lowfat or whole? Organic or non-organic? Florida orange juice or California orange juice?

How about chocolate milk? Milk in plastic containers or only wax cartons?

If it weren't for chocolate milk, my youngest would have rickets.

So, what about people that get earned income tax credits...should we tell them what to spend the money on?

Yes, to an extent.

 

[Ravi]

If it weren't for chocolate milk, my youngest would have rickets.

So, what about people that get earned income tax credits...should we tell them what to spend the money on?

Yes, to an extent.

To what extent?

 

[Care4all]

will this measure save the gvt any money?

the answer is NO....

and since the answer is NO, then why is it any of our business on what someone else drinks?

Actually Care, we don't know the answer. This idea of cutting soft drinks and sports drinks is a two year test to see if it brings down the cost of health care paid for by NYC.

so, we are USING food stamp recipients for a test, to see if they should ban this for ALL OF AMERICANS someday down the road or for a Medical Study on this, we are USING those on food stamps, and you don't see anything wrong with that?

That's so wrong ollie....so so wrong to pick a class of people, and do some medical research test, on them...using them as the guinea pigs....

Soda was readily avail to most all old geezers on this board and we were NOT ALL obese as people today...and the primary thing causing such is increased tv viewing and now computers...imo.

the lack of exercise is more than likely the real problem....the rest is just gobbledygook imho.....nothing that government should bother themselves with...

we all need to get off our tooshes once a day for an hour or so....we'd be the healthier by doing such, but I certainly do not want or think, the government should make this mandatory.

Maybe they should INFORM those on food stamps about what is healthier for them and their children, and THIS would be the better route?

 

[mattskramer]

So, what about people that get earned income tax credits...should we tell them what to spend the money on?

Yes, to an extent.

To what extent?

That is debatable. I don’t have a clear answer now.
Yet, I think that the recipient of a hand-out is in debt to the giver.

 

[WillowTree]

Are you guys cool with welfare money being spent on Las Vegas vacations? Is there any limit to what you want "given" to folks with NO strings attached?

 

[Ravi]

Yes, to an extent.

To what extent?

That is debatable. I don’t have a clear answer now.
Yet, I think that the recipient of a hand-out is in debt to the giver.

You must have some sort of an answer.

 

[Ravi]

Are you guys cool with welfare money being spent on Las Vegas vacations? Is there any limit to what you want "given" to folks with NO strings attached?

You mean like spending food stamps in a Las Vegas supermarket during a vacation? I have no problem with that, if it is even possible.

 

[mattskramer]

To what extent?

That is debatable. I don’t have a clear answer now.
Yet, I think that the recipient of a hand-out is in debt to the giver.

You must have some sort of an answer.

I think that it would be impractical to monitor the spending habits of those receiving government hand-outs. Still, I think that there should be a way to do so. One who can’t afford to buy food on his own, certainly can’t afford a Vegas vacation.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Are you guys cool with welfare money being spent on Las Vegas vacations? Is there any limit to what you want "given" to folks with NO strings attached?

You mean like spending food stamps in a Las Vegas supermarket during a vacation? I have no problem with that, if it is even possible.

Some people used their benefits in Vegas Casinos, but the budget cuts have made it impossible to tell why they were in Vegas? The amount is small and the amount of people who did it is tiny. What is not known is how many were in Vegas for reasons other than gambling. The machines were in Vegas.

Willow infection is as usual building a big lie with a kernel of truth

 

[Ravi]

That is debatable. I don’t have a clear answer now.
Yet, I think that the recipient of a hand-out is in debt to the giver.

You must have some sort of an answer.

I think that it would be impractical to monitor the spending habits of those receiving government hand-outs. Still, I think that there should be a way to do so. One who can’t afford to buy food on his own, certainly can’t afford a Vegas vacation.

Give them a card for their EITC and limit what they can spend it on. Seems simple enough to me.

How about medicare? Should the government decide what treatments and medicines a medicare recipient should get?

 

[WillowTree]

Are you guys cool with welfare money being spent on Las Vegas vacations? Is there any limit to what you want "given" to folks with NO strings attached?

You mean like spending food stamps in a Las Vegas supermarket during a vacation? I have no problem with that, if it is even possible.

Some people used their benefits in Vegas Casinos, but the budget cuts have made it impossible to tell why they were in Vegas? The amount is small and the amount of people who did it is tiny. What is not known is how many were in Vegas for reasons other than gambling. The machines were in Vegas.

Willow infection is as usual building a big lie with a kernel of truth

I bet you cannot throw a ball either.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Is it really so wrong? If NYC is spending $XXXXXX on health care for people on welfare and food stamps, and they have a solution to possibly save some of those health care dollars without cutting back on the health care. Is it really so wrong? Do we all not want less expensive health care?

I don't know......

 

[AllieBaba]

Are you guys cool with welfare money being spent on Las Vegas vacations? Is there any limit to what you want "given" to folks with NO strings attached?

You mean like spending food stamps in a Las Vegas supermarket during a vacation? I have no problem with that, if it is even possible.

People who are on foodstamps shouldn't be GOING on vacation. They should be using their extra cash to buy their own food.

 

[Care4all]

Is it really so wrong? If NYC is spending $XXXXXX on health care for people on welfare and food stamps, and they have a solution to possibly save some of those health care dollars without cutting back on the health care. Is it really so wrong? Do we all not want less expensive health care?

I don't know......

HOW my dear Ollie, IS THERE ANY MONEY being saved by not letting them buy a soda once in a while verses letting them have the fatty, very unhealthy hot dog or fatty hamburger for breakfast lunch and dinner?

AND, ollie, you can make $46k for a family of 4 and STILL QUALIFY for food stamps, are these people on welfare and getting their health care paid for by the government or are they working and paying taxes.

and then you got all the senior citizens for goodness sakes, receiving food stamps, are you going to tell them at 70, 80 or 90 that they can not buy a soda once in a while with their foodstamp money?

IT'S RIDICULOUS and an over reach of our government to be in to this kind of petty crapola.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Is it really so wrong? If NYC is spending $XXXXXX on health care for people on welfare and food stamps, and they have a solution to possibly save some of those health care dollars without cutting back on the health care. Is it really so wrong? Do we all not want less expensive health care?

I don't know......

HOW my dear Ollie, IS THERE ANY MONEY being saved by not letting them buy a soda once in a while verses letting them have the fatty, very unhealthy hot dog or fatty hamburger for breakfast lunch and dinner?

AND, ollie, you can make $46k for a family of 4 and STILL QUALIFY for food stamps, are these people on welfare and getting their health care paid for by the government or are they working and paying taxes.

and then you got all the senior citizens for goodness sakes, receiving food stamps, are you going to tell them at 70, 80 or 90 that they can not buy a soda once in a while with their foodstamp money?

IT'S RIDICULOUS and an over reach of our government to be in to this kind of petty crapola.

I don't know about you, but i could easily feed a family of four on $46,000.

 

[Annie]

Is it really so wrong? If NYC is spending $XXXXXX on health care for people on welfare and food stamps, and they have a solution to possibly save some of those health care dollars without cutting back on the health care. Is it really so wrong? Do we all not want less expensive health care?

I don't know......

HOW my dear Ollie, IS THERE ANY MONEY being saved by not letting them buy a soda once in a while verses letting them have the fatty, very unhealthy hot dog or fatty hamburger for breakfast lunch and dinner?

AND, ollie, you can make $46k for a family of 4 and STILL QUALIFY for food stamps, are these people on welfare and getting their health care paid for by the government or are they working and paying taxes.

and then you got all the senior citizens for goodness sakes, receiving food stamps, are you going to tell them at 70, 80 or 90 that they can not buy a soda once in a while with their foodstamp money?

IT'S RIDICULOUS and an over reach of our government to be in to this kind of petty crapola.

I don't know about you, but i could easily feed a family of four on $46,000.

Me too. 12 years ago I did it on $21k a year and still paid my mortgage. So, your point? I didn't go for food stamps then, but because of a weird thing in my county, regarding possible help with mortgage while unemployed, I had to check it out. I receive on unemployment, $1332 per month. My mortgage is $1213 per month. I had no problem paying that for years, since June,

Problem is that in order to qualify you have to be on food assistance. I'm short, by $12 per month.

Now, not the end of the world for me, I've family and friends and so far am staving off foreclosure. Now ComEd, et al are none too happy with me, they get enough to stop them from acting, but hey, blood meet stone. I've got some things that should be working out in the next few weeks, say a prayer.

Now about those that don't have multiple BAs and a MSED? Seriously folks, since June I've applied at over 300 places, from Walmart to Toy R Us, groceries, retail, nothing. Perhaps it's that I'm overqualified, but I don't think so.