Florida becomes first state to end all vaccine mandates

[pknopp]

No, it's doing now what we voted for it to do.

This thread is about a State deciding to end Vaccine mandates. I'm sure recommended vaccines will still be listed and provided.

There is a valid reason things like polio vaccines became mandatory.

 

[martybegan]

There is a valid reason things like polio vaccines became mandatory.

Of course. but if you see my link to the NYC requirements, it's way beyond just things like Polio, Mesales, and the DTP shot.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Seriously, trying that line...

Trump threatens cutting funding all the time to states that don't do what he wants...

He cannot do that as only Congress controls the purse strings.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/politics/florida-gop-end-vaccine-mandates

Even as US Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has ramped up a hostile takeover of federal vaccine policy, Florida on Wednesday took an unprecedented step: It became the first state to move to eliminate all vaccine requirements.

I can see this as putting other people in danger. Should vaccines be mandated or not? That is the question.

Republicans have contempt for sound, responsible governance.

The right's war on facts, science, and the truth continues.

 

[pknopp]

Of course. but if you see my link to the NYC requirements, it's way beyond just things like Polio, Mesales, and the DTP shot.

NYC is Irrelevant to what DeSantis did.

 

[martybegan]

NYC is Irrelevant to what DeSantis did.

NYC is an example of overreach.

To understand the backlash you have to see what is causing the backlash.

And not dismiss it out of hand.

 

[pknopp]

NYC is an example of overreach.

To understand the backlash you have to see what is causing the backlash.

And not dismiss it out of hand.

Nothing defends what DeSantis is doing.

 

[martybegan]

Nothing defends what DeSantis is doing.

Yes, the idea that parents and doctors should figure it out.

That you don't like the idea doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You need to get rid of that unearned hubris that other people have to think like you do.

 

[pknopp]

Yes, the idea that parents and doctors should figure it out.

That you don't like the idea doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You need to get rid of that unearned hubris that other people have to think like you do.

There is a sane reason why we vaccinated kids against polio.

 

[martybegan]

There is a sane reason why we vaccinated kids against polio.

Yes, but that is different than saying the government mandates it to attend school.

And the medical community has lost the trust of many people, and this is the resulting backlash.

So they can continue to berate people and call them idiots or they can try to restore the trust people once had in them with regards to vaccines.

 

[Mack Brazile]

Good fuckem thin the heard. No Cubans, Haitians, or sick fuckers in Florida. Back to beach

 

[dudmuck]

There should be no mandates.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Good fuckem thin the heard. No Cubans, Haitians, or sick fuckers in Florida. Back to beach

Iron lungs for everyone!

 

[CowboyTed]

Yet you went right to the conspiracy thing in your response. Stop trying to remake what you said.

Never mentioned Conspiracy, mentioned Science

I didn't say you. read before you respond.

How much was that due to the vaccines, and how much due to natural immunity growth and viral attenuation?

Both those metrics were equal across the sample... This is measured on excess deaths... Actuarial Studies, the guys who do this for a living and set up financial products because of that...

There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics.

??? What is that both to say... We have shown what Epidemiologists and other medical professionals say...

There is also the fact that hospital numbers went down... there was a surge of vaccine injuries presenting themselves to the hospital after vaccine drives... This is the common sense bit, where were the ERs full of patients having vaccine injuries? Nope, no Hospital admins claiming they were over run...
Just think about that... We gave this vaccine to 270m Americans (1 shot) and 230m got two shots and we didn't have a rush on ERs... Compare that to COVID and also realise we still don't really know the long term effects of COVID...

 

[CowboyTed]

Yes, but that is different than saying the government mandates it to attend school.

It is a health thing... Vaccines are not a 100%, no vaccine is... But if enough are vaccinated then something like Polio can't get enough hosts to spread...
Unvaccinatedkids aren't just threat to themselves but also to other children.

And the medical community has lost the trust of many people, and this is the resulting backlash.

They were undermined with scare tactics and disinformation. Blaming the medical community who have shown evidence who are competing with disinformation... RFK jr was torn apart today by not just Democrats but Republicans as well...
It should be a wake up call that he has no business running a Health agency. He has gutted the CDC of actual top class experts in their fields with people who subscribe to quackery. Every time they are asked for facts or evidence like RFK jr was today, says he doesn't know and spouts more disinformation.
We don't let unqualified idiots fly planes for the same reason.

So they can continue to berate people and call them idiots or they can try to restore the trust people once had in them with regards to vaccines.

The a parent is spouting a conspiracy theory and disinformation then you can...

 

[LeftofLeft]

Have illegals ever been mandated to get vaccines??

 

[pknopp]

Have illegals ever been mandated to get vaccines??

The same as citizens.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I hear Desantis and Kennedy are going to run in 2028 on the platform Bring Back Polio.

Are you not smart enough to get your kid the polio shot? It’s been proven to be effective unlike the rest. And it actually works. So if your neighbor doesn’t take it you can’t actually get it. That’s the difference between the polio shot and your covid nonsense.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The same as citizens.

Not true. Illegals were never mandated to get those shots unlike a US citizen was just to keep their job so their tax dollars can support the unvaccinated illegal.

 

[pknopp]

Are you not smart enough to get your kid the polio shot?

Its not about me.

It’s been proven to be effective unlike the rest. And it actually works. So if your neighbor doesn’t take it you can’t actually get it. That’s the difference between the polio shot and your covid nonsense.

I care about the poor kid that gets it because his MAGA parent thought it was harmful.