Fiona Hill Testifies ‘Fictions’ on Ukraine Pushed by Trump Help Russia

[Care4all]

Nobody with any sense is saying Russia didn't interfere.

I agree with that, ''no one with any sense'', but that is what Pres Trump and some followers are trying to promote...

...the conspiracy, created by the Russians btw, that it was not Russia, but the Ukraine who hacked the DNC/interfered in the elections... just this morning Trump was trying to promote that BS on Fox and even the Fox hosts were not buying it...

The Ukraine has the DNC server according to Trump who said
''he heard it (through the grape vine)'' that Crowdstrike has a rich Ukrainian owner who brought the DNC server, which they would not let the fbi see, to the
Ukraine to hide it blah blah blah bull crap that is absolutely ridiculous and baseless...

Crowdstrike does not have a rich Ukrainian owner

Crowdstrike is an American company

Crowdstrike does not have the DNC server, the DNC has the DNC server that was hacked by the Russians in their possession...is what I have read...

Anyway, the video clip of Fox News hosts this morning listening to Trump's mumbo jumbo on the call in phone interview, is priceless

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trump’s Campaign Chief

YEP, a handful did not want to see Trump win, especially when he hired Manafort, who to them was all that was bad news for the Ukrainians and good news for Russians and Russian Ukrainians,

And when the RNC Platform was mysteriously changed from full support for the Ukraine, to not the full support for the Ukraine over Russian aggression (that was scandalous in our news for the secrecy of who did the change and why?)

Panic set in and one of them or maybe two or 3 of them pushed in to the public any which way they could, their own information they had gathered previously on Manafort corruption with the previous corrupt Russian sympathizer govt/president....

with hopes it would hurt the Trump campaign, who they believed... and obviously so with Manafort there, that the campaign would be on Russia's side and not theirs!

SO YES, they released bad info they had on Manafort in to the public to hurt him, and hopefully hurt Candidate Trump.

This was more about how it would help themselves if Trump were not President, HOWEVER it is still them trying to interfere in our election...!

It is my understanding that this information from this black ledger the Ukrainian's released, was used to prosecute Manafort for money laundering.... the FBI/Special Counsel traced the millions to Cyprus Bank and then to the mega luxury purchases of Manafort...

Scotland had some bad press on Trump too, during his campaign that made it in to our media involving his Golf Resort and the residents that live there...

and some other countries too...

 

[kiwiman127]

The bullshit is that you believe these looney conspiracy theories.

I'm sure Russia is pleased.

They are documented facts. The evidence has been posted multiple times, but TDS morons like you refuse to see whatever contradicts your narrative.

No. They are not. Conjecture does not usually qualify as evidence. Keep trying.

But don't get lost in the rabbit hole.

So Politico and the NYT are lying and spreading conspiracy theories.

Duly noted.

They reported that Ukraine attacked our elections?

Democrat contractor Alexandra Chalupa asked Ukraine to dig up dirt on Donald Trump in 2016. She went to the Ukraine Embassy in 2016 and asked for help in finding dirt on Donald Trump in hopes of staging a congressional hearing to hurt Donald Trump in the fall election of 2016.

That is the Ukraine embassy’s on-the-record statement.

In addition, they state, Ms. Chalupa also asked for the Ukraine president to visit the United States and spend time with an investigative reporter trying to turn up dirt on Donald Trump and Paul Manafort, Solomon told Sean Hannity on his show recently.

The embassy said they recognized this for what it was, an improper effort to influence the election and they refused to cooperate, Solomon says.

In addition, a Kyiv court said that a Ukrainian lawmaker and a top anticorruption official in 2016 published documents linked to President Donald Trump’s then-campaign chairman to interfere in the U.S. presidential election.

A Kyiv court found in a December 11, 2018 ruling that Serhiy Leshchenko and Artem Sytnyk, director of the anti-corruption bureau (NABU), illegally released documents about Trump’s then-campaign chair Paul Manafort to assist Hillary Clinton’s re-election. The book showed payments by a Ukrainian political party, the Party of Regions, to Manafort.

The court said the publication of the so-called “black ledger” documents “led to interference in the electoral processes of the United States in 2016 and harmed the interests of Ukraine as a state.”

The validity of the black book is still in dispute.

Serhiy Leshchenko, a Ukrainian politician and journalist works closely with both top Hillary Clinton donors George Soros and Victor Pinchuk**, as well as to the US Embassy in Kyiv. Sytnyk also has ties to the Democrat Party. He said wanted Hillary Clinton to win the election and Donald Trump to lose.

Also, Nellie Ohr testified that Leshchenko contributed information to Fusion GPS when she worked there investigating the Trumps. He was a source so when the President says Ukraine could have been the source of the fake dossier, he’s not making it up.

Our two-tiered justice system and our two-tiered media are destroying the United States. That is the real problem.

** The Wall Street Journal reported in 2015 that Clinton Foundation received a great deal of funding from Ukraine: “Between 2009 and 2013, including when Mrs. Clinton was secretary of state, the Clinton Foundation received at least $8.6 million from the Victor Pinchuk Foundation, according to that foundation, which is based in Kiev, Ukraine. It was created by Mr. Pinchuk, whose fortune stems from a pipe-making company.

Biden Family Corruption Allegations Metastasize

**********************

Now this will be fun to watch.

“KYIV. Nov 20 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Some $16.5 million received by Hunter Biden, the son of former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, as payment from Burisma was stolen from Ukrainian citizens, member of parliament Andriy Derkach has said.

“Derkach said at a press conference at the Kyiv-based Interfax-Ukraine news agency that on November 14 the Prosecutor General’s Office (PGO) announced a new suspicion to the owner of Burisma, former Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky.”

..........

“KIEV (Reuters) – Ukraine has widened its investigation into the founder of energy company Burisma to include suspicion of embezzling state funds, Prosecutor General Ruslan Ryaboshapka said on Wednesday. …

“Ryaboshapka said Zlochevsky was now suspected of the ‘theft of government funds on an especially large scale,’ but did not provide evidence or details. ….

“The investigation is effectively on hold, however, because the Ukrainian authorities cannot determine Zlochevsky’s whereabouts.”

Alexandra Chalupa seems eager to testify! So, why not?
'I'm on a mission to testify': Dem Ukraine activist eager for impeachment cameo

 

[Jitss617]

These woman should have never been appointed.. they are clueless, stay home democrat females.. you moody losers. No one wants you

 

[Leo123]

Fiona Hill Testifies ‘Fictions’ on Ukraine Pushed by Trump Help Russia


WASHINGTON — The White House’s former top Europe and Russia expert sharply denounced what she called a “fictional narrative” embraced by President Trump and his Republican allies that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 elections, testifying that the claim at the center of the impeachment inquiry was a fabrication by Moscow that had harmed the United States.

Testifying on the final day of the week’s public impeachment hearings, the expert, Fiona Hill, tied Mr. Trump’s pressure campaign on Ukraine to a dangerous effort by Russia to sow political divisions in the United States and undercut American diplomacy. Her testimony before the House Intelligence Committee was an implicit rebuke to the president, suggesting that when he pressed Ukraine to investigate the theory that Kyiv rather than Moscow undertook a concerted campaign to meddle in the 2016 campaign, he was playing into Russia’s hands for his own political gain.


Dr. Hill’s account of how Mr. Trump’s team carried out what she called a “domestic political errand” that diverged from his own administration’s foreign policy amounted to sharp — albeit indirect — criticism of the president she served, and it brought home the grave national security consequences of the effort.

“These fictions are harmful even if they are deployed for purely domestic political purposes,” said Dr. Hill, the British-born daughter of a coal miner who became a United States citizen and co-wrote a length book analyzing the psyche of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia.

Both Dr. Hill and David Holmes, a top aide in the United States Embassy in Kyiv, testified in detail about what they understood to be a concerted campaign by the president and his allies, led by Rudolph W. Giuliani, his personal lawyer, to condition a White House meeting for Ukraine’s president on his announcement of investigations that Mr. Trump wanted into the 2016 election claim and of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

“Investigations for a meeting,” is how Dr. Hill described her understanding of the deal laid out by the president’s inner circle, including Mr. Giuliani, Gordon D. Sondland, the ambassador to the European Union, and Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff.

Under questioning from the top Republican counsel on the House Intelligence Committee, Dr. Hill said she confronted Mr. Sondland in July about his failure to coordinate with other members of the administration on his actions regarding Ukraine. She understood only later that Mr. Sondland was part of a group of officials — along with Mr. Mulvaney and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo — who were “being involved in a domestic political errand, and we were being involved in national security, foreign policy — and those two things had just diverged.”

Dr. Hill said she had told Mr. Sondland at the time that, “this is all going to blow up.”

Mr. Holmes said it was his “clear understanding” by the end of August that Mr. Trump had frozen $391 million in vital security aid to pressure Ukraine to commit to announcing an investigation into Mr. Biden and his family.


Fiona Hill Testifies ‘Fictions’ on Ukraine Pushed by Trump Help Russia

Oh Boo Hoo, Trump rejected Obama's foreign policy and the fanny-sitting bureaucrats are now threatened. They should all be fired.

 

[kiwiman127]

These woman should have never been appointed.. they are clueless, stay home democrat females.. you moody losers. No one wants you

Says the sexist village idiot. No one on USMB makes me laugh as much as you.

 

[Leo123]

Why do you continue to support this Con Man.
The last people off the Titanic all DIED.
Early jumpers died too, but those that hung on, yup, they DIED.

Trump is only afloat because the ship hasn't actually sunk yet, but be assured dude, it is sinking.

Why do you continue to support Democrat con men like Schiff? The Democrat Party seems more like the Titanic to me. Pelosi is shitting her Depends right now. LOL

 

[Jitss617]

These woman should have never been appointed.. they are clueless, stay home democrat females.. you moody losers. No one wants you

Says the sexist village idiot. No one on USMB makes me laugh as much as you.

Thanks man.. but no wonder foreign countries have been walking all over us.. these dim wits are like yea take what you want America is bad lol

 

[Winco]

Why do you continue to support this Con Man.
The last people off the Titanic all DIED.
Early jumpers died too, but those that hung on, yup, they DIED.

Trump is only afloat because the ship hasn't actually sunk yet, but be assured dude, it is sinking.

Why do you continue to support Democrat con men like Schiff? The Democrat Party seems more like the Titanic to me. Pelosi is shitting her Depends right now. LOL

Your ONLY Schiff talking points are FoxNews Talking points.
Your Hannity et al talking points are useless.
Exactly what has Schiff done that pissed you off?

Our current POTUS is a POS.
Only Looking out for Personal Gain.
FACT.

 

[Winco]

These woman should have never been appointed.. they are clueless, stay home democrat females.. you moody losers. No one wants you

Says the sexist village idiot. No one on USMB makes me laugh as much as you.

Thanks man.. but no wonder foreign countries have been walking all over us.. these dim wits are like yea take what you want America is bad lol

You should seek help.

 

[Jitss617]

These woman should have never been appointed.. they are clueless, stay home democrat females.. you moody losers. No one wants you

Says the sexist village idiot. No one on USMB makes me laugh as much as you.

Thanks man.. but no wonder foreign countries have been walking all over us.. these dim wits are like yea take what you want America is bad lol

You should seek help.

Just facts.. dem woman are weak

 

[Leo123]

Why do you continue to support this Con Man.
The last people off the Titanic all DIED.
Early jumpers died too, but those that hung on, yup, they DIED.

Trump is only afloat because the ship hasn't actually sunk yet, but be assured dude, it is sinking.

Why do you continue to support Democrat con men like Schiff? The Democrat Party seems more like the Titanic to me. Pelosi is shitting her Depends right now. LOL

Your ONLY Schiff talking points are FoxNews Talking points.
Your Hannity et al talking points are useless.
Exactly what has Schiff done that pissed you off?

Our current POTUS is a POS.
Only Looking out for Personal Gain.
FACT.

Schiff LIED about the content of the transcript. He LIED about having evidence of Trump/Russia collusion. Lying pisses me off.

 

[kiwiman127]

Why do you continue to support this Con Man.
The last people off the Titanic all DIED.
Early jumpers died too, but those that hung on, yup, they DIED.

Trump is only afloat because the ship hasn't actually sunk yet, but be assured dude, it is sinking.

Why do you continue to support Democrat con men like Schiff? The Democrat Party seems more like the Titanic to me. Pelosi is shitting her Depends right now. LOL

Your ONLY Schiff talking points are FoxNews Talking points.
Your Hannity et al talking points are useless.
Exactly what has Schiff done that pissed you off?

Our current POTUS is a POS.
Only Looking out for Personal Gain.
FACT.

Schiff LIED about the content of the transcript. He LIED about having evidence of Trump/Russia collusion. Lying pisses me off.

Shifff may have lied, yet he certainly is not in Trump's league, when it comes to pathological lying. Why doesn't that bother you? Very inconsistent of you.

 

[bripat9643]

Nobody with any sense is saying Russia didn't interfere.

I agree with that, ''no one with any sense'', but that is what Pres Trump and some followers are trying to promote...

...the conspiracy, created by the Russians btw, that it was not Russia, but the Ukraine who hacked the DNC/interfered in the elections... just this morning Trump was trying to promote that BS on Fox and even the Fox hosts were not buying it...

The Ukraine has the DNC server according to Trump who said
''he heard it (through the grape vine)'' that Crowdstrike has a rich Ukrainian owner who brought the DNC server, which they would not let the fbi see, to the
Ukraine to hide it blah blah blah bull crap that is absolutely ridiculous and baseless...

Crowdstrike does not have a rich Ukrainian owner

Crowdstrike is an American company

Crowdstrike does not have the DNC server, the DNC has the DNC server that was hacked by the Russians in their possession...is what I have read...

Anyway, the video clip of Fox News hosts this morning listening to Trump's mumbo jumbo on the call in phone interview, is priceless

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trump’s Campaign Chief

YEP, a handful did not want to see Trump win, especially when he hired Manafort, who to them was all that was bad news for the Ukrainians and good news for Russians and Russian Ukrainians,

And when the RNC Platform was mysteriously changed from full support for the Ukraine, to not the full support for the Ukraine over Russian aggression (that was scandalous in our news for the secrecy of who did the change and why?)

Panic set in and one of them or maybe two or 3 of them pushed in to the public any which way they could, their own information they had gathered previously on Manafort corruption with the previous corrupt Russian sympathizer govt/president....

with hopes it would hurt the Trump campaign, who they believed... and obviously so with Manafort there, that the campaign would be on Russia's side and not theirs!

SO YES, they released bad info they had on Manafort in to the public to hurt him, and hopefully hurt Candidate Trump.

This was more about how it would help themselves if Trump were not President, HOWEVER it is still them trying to interfere in our election...!

It is my understanding that this information from this black ledger the Ukrainian's released, was used to prosecute Manafort for money laundering.... the FBI/Special Counsel traced the millions to Cyprus Bank and then to the mega luxury purchases of Manafort...

Scotland had some bad press on Trump too, during his campaign that made it in to our media involving his Golf Resort and the residents that live there...

and some other countries too...

There was no conspiracy, you fucking dingbat. You just admitted that Ukraine interfered in our election, right after claiming they didn't.

 

[bripat9643]

It was reported on by two of the moonbat flagships: Politico and the NYT.

Actually, that is pretty much a consensus by world wide intelligence.
But you being who you are, says enough about your consistent gullibility.
You take unfounded conspiracy theories over well kn0wn facts every time.

Whenever Dims use the word "consensus," you know they are pumping out a huge load of bullshit.

The bullshit is that you believe these looney conspiracy theories.

I'm sure Russia is pleased.

They are documented facts. The evidence has been posted multiple times, but TDS morons like you refuse to see whatever contradicts your narrative.

No. They are not. Conjecture does not usually qualify as evidence. Keep trying.

But don't get lost in the rabbit hole.

I love the way you write off facts that you find troubling. Meanwhile, you believe the "witnesses" against Trump actually said something that counts as evidence.

 

[Care4all]

Nobody with any sense is saying Russia didn't interfere.

I agree with that, ''no one with any sense'', but that is what Pres Trump and some followers are trying to promote...

...the conspiracy, created by the Russians btw, that it was not Russia, but the Ukraine who hacked the DNC/interfered in the elections... just this morning Trump was trying to promote that BS on Fox and even the Fox hosts were not buying it...

The Ukraine has the DNC server according to Trump who said
''he heard it (through the grape vine)'' that Crowdstrike has a rich Ukrainian owner who brought the DNC server, which they would not let the fbi see, to the
Ukraine to hide it blah blah blah bull crap that is absolutely ridiculous and baseless...

Crowdstrike does not have a rich Ukrainian owner

Crowdstrike is an American company

Crowdstrike does not have the DNC server, the DNC has the DNC server that was hacked by the Russians in their possession...is what I have read...

Anyway, the video clip of Fox News hosts this morning listening to Trump's mumbo jumbo on the call in phone interview, is priceless

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trump’s Campaign Chief

YEP, a handful did not want to see Trump win, especially when he hired Manafort, who to them was all that was bad news for the Ukrainians and good news for Russians and Russian Ukrainians,

And when the RNC Platform was mysteriously changed from full support for the Ukraine, to not the full support for the Ukraine over Russian aggression (that was scandalous in our news for the secrecy of who did the change and why?)

Panic set in and one of them or maybe two or 3 of them pushed in to the public any which way they could, their own information they had gathered previously on Manafort corruption with the previous corrupt Russian sympathizer govt/president....

with hopes it would hurt the Trump campaign, who they believed... and obviously so with Manafort there, that the campaign would be on Russia's side and not theirs!

SO YES, they released bad info they had on Manafort in to the public to hurt him, and hopefully hurt Candidate Trump.

This was more about how it would help themselves if Trump were not President, HOWEVER it is still them trying to interfere in our election...!

It is my understanding that this information from this black ledger the Ukrainian's released, was used to prosecute Manafort for money laundering.... the FBI/Special Counsel traced the millions to Cyprus Bank and then to the mega luxury purchases of Manafort...

Scotland had some bad press on Trump too, during his campaign that made it in to our media involving his Golf Resort and the residents that live there...

and some other countries too...

There was no conspiracy, you fucking dingbat. You just admitted that Ukraine interfered in our election, right after claiming they didn't.

Yes, it was in the news back in 2017 that a handful of people who worked in the Ukrainian gvt released the dirt they had on Manafort who had spent 10 plus years there working for a corrupt client and regime that was tied to Russia.

They did not create a Troll Factory in St Petersburg, they did not have their Intel agencies in Moskow involved, they did not create a massive on line community of Bots on Facebook to spread fake news, they did not hack in to the DNC or Clinton campaign manager's email, they did not disburse the stolen emails on a timely basis thru Wikileaks, they did not open bit coin accounts to hide their movements, they did not get first hand Trump polling data given to them by the Trump campaign manager, they did not advise Roger Stone on when the emails and what was in them would drop etc etc etc etc etc, AS THE RUSSIANS DID, to interfere in our election campaigns.

WHAT, about THAT, don't you get?

TRUMP is pushing a RUSSIAN created debunked conspiracy that the Ukraine, is the country that massively interfered in our election and it was them and not the Russians that did all of the above....

And that's hock tooey!!!

 

[Care4all]

These woman should have never been appointed.. they are clueless, stay home democrat females.. you moody losers. No one wants you

Fiona Hill was the smartest person in the room...No doubt that scares you!: And every guy on the right wing questioning her!!!

It's a great loss, not having her in our gvt working for us right now! We need more people with smarts, like her!

 

[Jitss617]

These woman should have never been appointed.. they are clueless, stay home democrat females.. you moody losers. No one wants you

Fiona Hill was the smartest person in the room...No doubt that scares you!: And every guy on the right wing questioning her!!!

It's a great loss, not having her in our gvt working for us right now! We need more people with smarts, like her!

Didn’t say she want smart, she is weak and should never have been appointed for foreign relations, she should have been using her brain to make sandwiches for our troops overseas.. democrat woman need to start home and use your smarts for Home economics

 

[Dragonlady]

She's 100% full of shit.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Its one thing to prefer a candidate, its another thing to actively engage in another countries election to influence the outcome. The United States Intelligence services proved that Russia intervened in the United States 2016 election. The same intelligence services found no evidence that Ukraine had done anything like that.

I trust the CIA, DIA, FBI and other U.S. intelligence services.

Unlike Trumper's who believe the RUSSIAN FSB, better known as the KGB!

Were those the intelligence agencies run by Brennan, Clapper, Strozk, Comey, McCabe, and Ohr?

I rest my case.

No, those agencies were not being run by any of those people

You don't have a case to rest.

 

[Oddball]

Why do you continue to support this Con Man.
The last people off the Titanic all DIED.
Early jumpers died too, but those that hung on, yup, they DIED.

Trump is only afloat because the ship hasn't actually sunk yet, but be assured dude, it is sinking.

Why do you continue to support Democrat con men like Schiff? The Democrat Party seems more like the Titanic to me. Pelosi is shitting her Depends right now. LOL

Your ONLY Schiff talking points are FoxNews Talking points.
Your Hannity et al talking points are useless.
Exactly what has Schiff done that pissed you off?

Our current POTUS is a POS.
Only Looking out for Personal Gain.
FACT.

Schiff LIED about the content of the transcript. He LIED about having evidence of Trump/Russia collusion. Lying pisses me off.

Shifff may have lied, yet he certainly is not in Trump's league, when it comes to pathological lying. Why doesn't that bother you? Very inconsistent of you.

Whataboutism isn't an argument.

 

[Oddball]

Nobody with any sense is saying Russia didn't interfere.

I agree with that, ''no one with any sense'', but that is what Pres Trump and some followers are trying to promote...

...the conspiracy, created by the Russians btw, that it was not Russia, but the Ukraine who hacked the DNC/interfered in the elections... just this morning Trump was trying to promote that BS on Fox and even the Fox hosts were not buying it...

The Ukraine has the DNC server according to Trump who said
''he heard it (through the grape vine)'' that Crowdstrike has a rich Ukrainian owner who brought the DNC server, which they would not let the fbi see, to the
Ukraine to hide it blah blah blah bull crap that is absolutely ridiculous and baseless...

Crowdstrike does not have a rich Ukrainian owner

Crowdstrike is an American company

Crowdstrike does not have the DNC server, the DNC has the DNC server that was hacked by the Russians in their possession...is what I have read...

Anyway, the video clip of Fox News hosts this morning listening to Trump's mumbo jumbo on the call in phone interview, is priceless

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trump’s Campaign Chief

YEP, a handful did not want to see Trump win, especially when he hired Manafort, who to them was all that was bad news for the Ukrainians and good news for Russians and Russian Ukrainians,

And when the RNC Platform was mysteriously changed from full support for the Ukraine, to not the full support for the Ukraine over Russian aggression (that was scandalous in our news for the secrecy of who did the change and why?)

Panic set in and one of them or maybe two or 3 of them pushed in to the public any which way they could, their own information they had gathered previously on Manafort corruption with the previous corrupt Russian sympathizer govt/president....

with hopes it would hurt the Trump campaign, who they believed... and obviously so with Manafort there, that the campaign would be on Russia's side and not theirs!

SO YES, they released bad info they had on Manafort in to the public to hurt him, and hopefully hurt Candidate Trump.

This was more about how it would help themselves if Trump were not President, HOWEVER it is still them trying to interfere in our election...!

It is my understanding that this information from this black ledger the Ukrainian's released, was used to prosecute Manafort for money laundering.... the FBI/Special Counsel traced the millions to Cyprus Bank and then to the mega luxury purchases of Manafort...

Scotland had some bad press on Trump too, during his campaign that made it in to our media involving his Golf Resort and the residents that live there...

and some other countries too...

tl;dr

Occam's razor trumps that text brick....The State Department and the spook state are insufferably arrogant and hopelessly corrupt....That's the easiest and most obvious answer.