Finland Study: Not enough Lithium & Cobalt in world to replace every EV battery every ten years

[ABikerSailor]

The Lithium cannot be recycled.

Might wanna learn how to use Google. Yes, lithium batteries can be recycled. But, the tech wasn't quite where it needed to be until recently, and it's still expensive to do, but with the overabundance of batteries, it's now becoming a viable business opportunity.

 

[Couchpotato]

Might wanna learn how to use Google. Yes, lithium batteries can be recycled. But, the tech wasn't quite where it needed to be until recently, and it's still expensive to do, but with the overabundance of batteries, it's now becoming a viable business opportunity.

Is that because it's actually viable or because the Government subsidies that are undoubted being poured into that sector make it viable? The entire EV market isnt viable without the Government money and push (read mandates). Right wrong or indifferent that's the truth.

 

[Mac1958]

We're not near a final answer for cars. This ain't it.

 

[Couchpotato]

We're not near a final answer for cars. This ain't it.

Yeah Im not really sure why we went the EV route vs the hydrogen fuel cell route. Coupled with nuclear power it would be much easier to convert to. And without all evils that comes with the lithium and cobalt mining.

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Lithium giant’s link to slave labour region puts Tesla in spotlight

The deepening connection between Ganfeng Lithium and China’s controversial Xinjiang region is set to draw more scrutiny from investors and consumers.

www.afr.com

What's a bit of child slavery between friends.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Is that because it's actually viable or because the Government subsidies that are undoubted being poured into that sector make it viable? The entire EV market isnt viable without the Government money and push (read mandates). Right wrong or indifferent that's the truth.

It's because it's actually become viable. Up until recently, nobody was looking to recycle batteries, nor the material they are made from as it was cheaper and easier to simply throw them away. Now? People are starting to look toward the future, and finally understanding that there isn't an unlimited amount of the resources needed to make batteries, as well as realizing that there is a pretty decent supply sitting around as throwaway waste. When the newer batteries first came around, they didn't look at recycling, just how to make them smaller, and more efficient. Now that there are so many batteries being thrown away, various companies are looking into recycling or extracting the material needed out of them. Kinda like the oil companies do now in difficult to drill areas. They discover the oil and keep the lease on the land, waiting for the prices to go up until it becomes profitable to drill there. Recycling is still expensive for the newer batteries, but it's starting to look like recycling can be profitable, even more so than mining.

 

[scruffy]

The Green Hoax is falling apart more and more everyday.

https://tupa.gtk.fi/raportti/arkisto/42_2021.pdf

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UK says it would cost 500,000 pounds from every household to achieve “Net Zero”.

Nearly £500,000 From Every U.K. Household to Pay for Net Zero – The Daily Sceptic

It's clear that the citizenry has no idea of the scale of the task to achieve Net Zero in 30 years – estimated at £100,000 per household, £450,000 if developed nations have to pay for the rest of the world as well.

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Total nonsense and pie in the sky fantasies by the radical left.

We would have to drastically increase electric power generation as well, which there is no plan for.

Elon Musk is a very smart man.

He's the only one in the world in a position to do any asteroid mining.

And he also happens to own the company that makes the cars that consume the batteries.

 

[Couchpotato]

It's because it's actually become viable. Up until recently, nobody was looking to recycle batteries, nor the material they are made from as it was cheaper and easier to simply throw them away. Now? People are starting to look toward the future, and finally understanding that there isn't an unlimited amount of the resources needed to make batteries, as well as realizing that there is a pretty decent supply sitting around as throwaway waste. When the newer batteries first came around, they didn't look at recycling, just how to make them smaller, and more efficient. Now that there are so many batteries being thrown away, various companies are looking into recycling or extracting the material needed out of them. Kinda like the oil companies do now in difficult to drill areas. They discover the oil and keep the lease on the land, waiting for the prices to go up until it becomes profitable to drill there. Recycling is still expensive for the newer batteries, but it's starting to look like recycling can be profitable, even more so than mining.

Are they having child slaves do the recycling too?

 

[pknopp]

No seriously, there's not enough lithium, the grid can't handle it, EV batteries last five, six years at best.

What dumbass thinks this is viable?

Tesla warranties their batteries for eight years so while I really shouldn't have to point out you just made this all up, you just made this all up.

 

[Yarddog]

The Green Hoax is falling apart more and more everyday.

https://tupa.gtk.fi/raportti/arkisto/42_2021.pdf

Infowars Article

Infowars: There's a War on for your Mind!

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UK says it would cost 500,000 pounds from every household to achieve “Net Zero”.

Nearly £500,000 From Every U.K. Household to Pay for Net Zero – The Daily Sceptic

It's clear that the citizenry has no idea of the scale of the task to achieve Net Zero in 30 years – estimated at £100,000 per household, £450,000 if developed nations have to pay for the rest of the world as well.

dailysceptic.org

Total nonsense and pie in the sky fantasies by the radical left.

We would have to drastically increase electric power generation as well, which there is no plan for.

Exactly! the truth is , these batteries are a dead end and future EV's require a completely different type of battery, which would be a technology we have not yet discovered or made practical in masse. This could be another 20 -40 years to even think about going online with and then what in the meantime once liberals have decimated the oil industry?

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

The Green Hoax is falling apart more and more everyday.

https://tupa.gtk.fi/raportti/arkisto/42_2021.pdf

Infowars Article

Infowars: There's a War on for your Mind!

www.infowars.com

UK says it would cost 500,000 pounds from every household to achieve “Net Zero”.

Nearly £500,000 From Every U.K. Household to Pay for Net Zero – The Daily Sceptic

It's clear that the citizenry has no idea of the scale of the task to achieve Net Zero in 30 years – estimated at £100,000 per household, £450,000 if developed nations have to pay for the rest of the world as well.

dailysceptic.org

Total nonsense and pie in the sky fantasies by the radical left.

We would have to drastically increase electric power generation as well, which there is no plan for.

Success isn't the goal. The goal is control.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Yeah Im not really sure why we went the EV route vs the hydrogen fuel cell route. Coupled with nuclear power it would be much easier to convert to. And without all evils that comes with the lithium and cobalt mining.

Modern Slavery: The true cost of cobalt mining - Human Trafficking Search

Thousands of artisanal miners dig by hand in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). Children, too. They have no industrial tools, no protective clothing, no

humantraffickingsearch.org

Lithium giant’s link to slave labour region puts Tesla in spotlight

The deepening connection between Ganfeng Lithium and China’s controversial Xinjiang region is set to draw more scrutiny from investors and consumers.

www.afr.com

What's a bit of child slavery between friends.

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