Finally someting all former Americans can agree on

[Deplorable Yankee]

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

Or perhaps it is. It's hard to tell these days.

Regardless, a sobering new poll from Zogby showed that 46% of Americans believe another civil war is inevitable.

Of all those polled, 16% were very confident that open hostility is imminent.



That's roughly 1 in 6 people who don't believe dialogue or democratic process is still possible.



What's most interesting is that Zogby said a similar amount of people from both political parties believe open hostility is imminent:

"For once, political parties - Republicans (49% likely and 40% unlikely), Democrats (45% likely and 44% unlikely), and independents (42% likely and 44% unlikely) – were somewhat in agreement, but the fact all political stripes think a civil war is inevitable is not the bipartisanship we were hoping for."

Where you live seemed to be a more important metric:

"People in large cities (55% likely and 38% unlikely) were much more likely to think the country will have another civil war than respondents living in the suburbs (36% likely and 48% unlikely)."

People living along the East Coast were also far less likely to believe all-out war is coming (39%) compared to those in the Midwest/Central (48%) and South (49%).

Young peeps were more likely to believe the end is nigh compared to older individuals, and among racial groups, whites were less likely than black or Hispanics to believe civil war is looming.

"When it came to race, whites (43% likely and 44% unlikely) were not as convinced that there will be another civil war, while Hispanics (53% likely and 43% unlikely) and African Americans (49% likely and 39% unlikely) thought another civil war could happen."

After the election, my trust in polls is approximately 0.5%, but this is not a good thing. It might help if a certain political party stopped actively trying to crucify the candidate half the nation voted for, but what do I know?


From the former United States of America's most trusted news source

Americans seem to be the most united around the belief that civil war is coming 👀

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

notthebee.com

Remember
Take 5 with ya ....

 

[night_son]

The thing pro-civil war or "civil war is likely people" people need to keep in mind is that there is no command structure for what would be our side or the conservative side of the combatants. As we speak the woke Democratic Party controls our Executive and Legislative Branches. That means Democrats, at least in theory, control our military and all federal law enforcement militarized units.

In order for two "sides" to exist in any up-and-coming second civil war, conservatives (the good guys), would need to do a whole lot of fast foot work. We'd need to create a conservative shadow government, elect a shadow President, and then approach several active military commanders and ask them to "defect" to our side, fight for our cause. Democrat control of social media pretty much prevents conservative organization and coordination on any large scale.

But beyond all of the above, I believe most Americans believe, mistakenly, that a second civil war would be fought outside of the government, not by our military and police, but by masses of everyday citizens. Not gonna happen.

And then there's the geographical aspect. Where in the first civil war opposing American political camps were clearly divided between the northern and southern parts of our nation, this time around political ideologies are mixed together in all geographical areas. Hell, most neighborhoods are politically mixed/divided. So how would we even approach a situation where both sides in any hypothetical war are so completely mixed together in all the same places? It's just not feasible, from any kind of competent tactical or strategic point of view.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

The thing pro-civil war or "civil war is likely people" people need to keep in mind is that there is no command structure for what would be our side or the conservative side of the combatants. As we speak the woke Democratic Party controls our Executive and Legislative Branches. That means Democrats, at least in theory, control our military and all federal law enforcement militarized units.

In order for two "sides" to exist in any up-and-coming second civil war, conservatives (the good guys), would need to do a whole lot of fast foot work. We'd need to create a conservative shadow government, elect a shadow President, and then approach several active military commanders and ask them to "defect" to our side, fight for our cause. Democrat control of social media pretty much prevents conservative organization and coordination on any large scale.

But beyond all of the above, I believe most Americans believe, mistakenly, that a second civil war would be fought outside of the government, not by our military and police, but by masses of everyday citizens. Not gonna happen.

And then there's the geographical aspect. Where in the first civil war opposing American political camps were clearly divided between the northern and southern parts of our nation, this time around political ideologies are mixed together in all geographical areas. Hell, most neighborhoods are politically mixed/divided. So how would we even approach a situation where both sides in any hypothetical war are so completely mixed together in all the same places? It's just not feasible, from any kind of competent tactical or strategic point of view.

Ill say it for the 900th time...I wouldn't worry about the macro

Local baby ...keep it local

 

[night_son]

The thing pro-civil war or "civil war is likely people" people need to keep in mind is that there is no command structure for what would be our side or the conservative side of the combatants. As we speak the woke Democratic Party controls our Executive and Legislative Branches. That means Democrats, at least in theory, control our military and all federal law enforcement militarized units.

In order for two "sides" to exist in any up-and-coming second civil war, conservatives (the good guys), would need to do a whole lot of fast foot work. We'd need to create a conservative shadow government, elect a shadow President, and then approach several active military commanders and ask them to "defect" to our side, fight for our cause. Democrat control of social media pretty much prevents conservative organization and coordination on any large scale.

But beyond all of the above, I believe most Americans believe, mistakenly, that a second civil war would be fought outside of the government, not by our military and police, but by masses of everyday citizens. Not gonna happen.

And then there's the geographical aspect. Where in the first civil war opposing American political camps were clearly divided between the northern and southern parts of our nation, this time around political ideologies are mixed together in all geographical areas. Hell, most neighborhoods are politically mixed/divided. So how would we even approach a situation where both sides in any hypothetical war are so completely mixed together in all the same places? It's just not feasible, from any kind of competent tactical or strategic point of view.

Ill say it for the 900th time...I wouldn't worry about the macro

Local baby ...keep it local

I get it and agree. Take back one village at a time. I'll sharpen my pitchfork and rustle up some torches.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

The thing pro-civil war or "civil war is likely people" people need to keep in mind is that there is no command structure for what would be our side or the conservative side of the combatants. As we speak the woke Democratic Party controls our Executive and Legislative Branches. That means Democrats, at least in theory, control our military and all federal law enforcement militarized units.

In order for two "sides" to exist in any up-and-coming second civil war, conservatives (the good guys), would need to do a whole lot of fast foot work. We'd need to create a conservative shadow government, elect a shadow President, and then approach several active military commanders and ask them to "defect" to our side, fight for our cause. Democrat control of social media pretty much prevents conservative organization and coordination on any large scale.

But beyond all of the above, I believe most Americans believe, mistakenly, that a second civil war would be fought outside of the government, not by our military and police, but by masses of everyday citizens. Not gonna happen.

And then there's the geographical aspect. Where in the first civil war opposing American political camps were clearly divided between the northern and southern parts of our nation, this time around political ideologies are mixed together in all geographical areas. Hell, most neighborhoods are politically mixed/divided. So how would we even approach a situation where both sides in any hypothetical war are so completely mixed together in all the same places? It's just not feasible, from any kind of competent tactical or strategic point of view.

Ill say it for the 900th time...I wouldn't worry about the macro

Local baby ...keep it local

I get it and agree. Take back one village at a time. I'll sharpen my pitchfork and rustle up some torches.

If the whole thing collapses and it gets ugly the last thing you'll need to worry about is whats happening in Westchester County NY

What you should keep in mind if thier are any John brown society or antifa groups and members near you .......

 

[foggedinn]

Who gets the nukes?

 

[DudleySmith]

It's been over for a long time, when the vermin got control of the school systems.

 

[Turtlesoup]

The thing pro-civil war or "civil war is likely people" people need to keep in mind is that there is no command structure for what would be our side or the conservative side of the combatants. As we speak the woke Democratic Party controls our Executive and Legislative Branches. That means Democrats, at least in theory, control our military and all federal law enforcement militarized units.

In order for two "sides" to exist in any up-and-coming second civil war, conservatives (the good guys), would need to do a whole lot of fast foot work. We'd need to create a conservative shadow government, elect a shadow President, and then approach several active military commanders and ask them to "defect" to our side, fight for our cause. Democrat control of social media pretty much prevents conservative organization and coordination on any large scale.

But beyond all of the above, I believe most Americans believe, mistakenly, that a second civil war would be fought outside of the government, not by our military and police, but by masses of everyday citizens. Not gonna happen.

And then there's the geographical aspect. Where in the first civil war opposing American political camps were clearly divided between the northern and southern parts of our nation, this time around political ideologies are mixed together in all geographical areas. Hell, most neighborhoods are politically mixed/divided. So how would we even approach a situation where both sides in any hypothetical war are so completely mixed together in all the same places? It's just not feasible, from any kind of competent tactical or strategic point of view.

Frontal attacks between armies won't work clearly-------but that isn't the way that people try to seize their nation back from abusive governments. Don't think it will look like the civil war but more like RED DAWN with guerilla attacks coming from lone wolves or small packs I think.

 

[Gracie]

Thankfully, I live in a predominately conservative town located between and surrounded by 3 larger towns which makes it a huge comglomerate of people who voted repub and are MAGA's. If something happens from antifa or blm..they are in for a very rude awakening.

 

[Thoth001]

If we put our heads together and stop fighting over each other over useless nonsense, we would see who is really causing all the problems and put an end to the criminals running our government and institutions.

 

[Thoth001]

Thankfully, I live in a predominately conservative town located between and surrounded by 3 larger towns which makes it a huge comglomerate of people who voted repub and are MAGA's. If something happens from antifa or blm..they are in for a very rude awakening.

I would not consider myself a Conservative and I didn't even like Trump in the beginning of his presidency. And I thought he was a total ass on the Apprentice. Over the years though by seeing his actions for the American people Trump grew on me. He was the first president in awhile that seemed to care about the citizens of the US.

People are in for a very rude awakening if they think Biden is going to fix anything. What he is going to do, is make things even worse for your normal hard working everyday American. He does everything the Cabal wants. Just by his first few weeks in office, anybody with half a thinking brain left, can see that.

 

[Votto]

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

Or perhaps it is. It's hard to tell these days.

Regardless, a sobering new poll from Zogby showed that 46% of Americans believe another civil war is inevitable.

Of all those polled, 16% were very confident that open hostility is imminent.



That's roughly 1 in 6 people who don't believe dialogue or democratic process is still possible.



What's most interesting is that Zogby said a similar amount of people from both political parties believe open hostility is imminent:

"For once, political parties - Republicans (49% likely and 40% unlikely), Democrats (45% likely and 44% unlikely), and independents (42% likely and 44% unlikely) – were somewhat in agreement, but the fact all political stripes think a civil war is inevitable is not the bipartisanship we were hoping for."

Where you live seemed to be a more important metric:

"People in large cities (55% likely and 38% unlikely) were much more likely to think the country will have another civil war than respondents living in the suburbs (36% likely and 48% unlikely)."

People living along the East Coast were also far less likely to believe all-out war is coming (39%) compared to those in the Midwest/Central (48%) and South (49%).

Young peeps were more likely to believe the end is nigh compared to older individuals, and among racial groups, whites were less likely than black or Hispanics to believe civil war is looming.

"When it came to race, whites (43% likely and 44% unlikely) were not as convinced that there will be another civil war, while Hispanics (53% likely and 43% unlikely) and African Americans (49% likely and 39% unlikely) thought another civil war could happen."

After the election, my trust in polls is approximately 0.5%, but this is not a good thing. It might help if a certain political party stopped actively trying to crucify the candidate half the nation voted for, but what do I know?


From the former United States of America's most trusted news source

Americans seem to be the most united around the belief that civil war is coming 👀

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

notthebee.com

Remember
Take 5 with ya ....

There are scattered militias around the US, so I suppose the government could begin to go after them if they wanted to. Otherwise, it's just a matter of how oppressive the democrats want to treat their political rivals. Exactly how power hungry and controlling can they become? We shall see. And if they do begin to crack down on them it's not like the media has to report on it. They can just kill them all in secret.

I look at what happened in the former USSR. The state became so oppressive that the black market became a larger economy than the state economy. When you make it impossible to get ahead economically legally, they will find an illegal way to do so. And as the black market grew, the state economy deteriorated and wasted away. But with the US and China embracing corporate capitalism,, that is corporations taking over the world, they may side step this problem and learn to flourish as the average citizen is pounded into submission for all eternity.

 

[Thoth001]

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

Or perhaps it is. It's hard to tell these days.

Regardless, a sobering new poll from Zogby showed that 46% of Americans believe another civil war is inevitable.

Of all those polled, 16% were very confident that open hostility is imminent.



That's roughly 1 in 6 people who don't believe dialogue or democratic process is still possible.



What's most interesting is that Zogby said a similar amount of people from both political parties believe open hostility is imminent:

"For once, political parties - Republicans (49% likely and 40% unlikely), Democrats (45% likely and 44% unlikely), and independents (42% likely and 44% unlikely) – were somewhat in agreement, but the fact all political stripes think a civil war is inevitable is not the bipartisanship we were hoping for."

Where you live seemed to be a more important metric:

"People in large cities (55% likely and 38% unlikely) were much more likely to think the country will have another civil war than respondents living in the suburbs (36% likely and 48% unlikely)."

People living along the East Coast were also far less likely to believe all-out war is coming (39%) compared to those in the Midwest/Central (48%) and South (49%).

Young peeps were more likely to believe the end is nigh compared to older individuals, and among racial groups, whites were less likely than black or Hispanics to believe civil war is looming.

"When it came to race, whites (43% likely and 44% unlikely) were not as convinced that there will be another civil war, while Hispanics (53% likely and 43% unlikely) and African Americans (49% likely and 39% unlikely) thought another civil war could happen."

After the election, my trust in polls is approximately 0.5%, but this is not a good thing. It might help if a certain political party stopped actively trying to crucify the candidate half the nation voted for, but what do I know?


From the former United States of America's most trusted news source

Americans seem to be the most united around the belief that civil war is coming 👀

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

notthebee.com

Remember
Take 5 with ya ....

There are scattered militias around the US, so I suppose the government could begin to go after them if they wanted to. Otherwise, it's just a matter of how oppressive the democrats want to treat their political rivals. Exactly how power hungry and controlling can they become? We shall see. And if they do begin to crack down on them it's not like the media has to report on it. They can just kill them all in secret.

I look at what happened in the former USSR. The state became so oppressive that the black market became a larger economy than the state economy. When you make it impossible to get ahead economically legally, they will find an illegal way to do so. And as the black market grew, the state economy deteriorated and wasted away. But with the US and China embracing corporate capitalism,, that is corporations taking over the world, they may side step this problem and learn to flourish as the average citizen is pounded into submission for all eternity.

I think it is a very good idea to study these other countries and their downfalls, so we can learn by their mistakes and not let it happen to the US. Although we are already pretty deep in it now and we are sinking fast.

 

[Gracie]

Well, at least there will no longer be caravans of illegals coming into the usa. Instead, there will be caravans of americans heading out and the only out there is for the poor is south. Look out mexico. Yer fixing to get what we went through but no worries, we know you will not give us free stuff or pay us stimulus money.

 

[Gracie]

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

Or perhaps it is. It's hard to tell these days.

Regardless, a sobering new poll from Zogby showed that 46% of Americans believe another civil war is inevitable.

Of all those polled, 16% were very confident that open hostility is imminent.



That's roughly 1 in 6 people who don't believe dialogue or democratic process is still possible.



What's most interesting is that Zogby said a similar amount of people from both political parties believe open hostility is imminent:

"For once, political parties - Republicans (49% likely and 40% unlikely), Democrats (45% likely and 44% unlikely), and independents (42% likely and 44% unlikely) – were somewhat in agreement, but the fact all political stripes think a civil war is inevitable is not the bipartisanship we were hoping for."

Where you live seemed to be a more important metric:

"People in large cities (55% likely and 38% unlikely) were much more likely to think the country will have another civil war than respondents living in the suburbs (36% likely and 48% unlikely)."

People living along the East Coast were also far less likely to believe all-out war is coming (39%) compared to those in the Midwest/Central (48%) and South (49%).

Young peeps were more likely to believe the end is nigh compared to older individuals, and among racial groups, whites were less likely than black or Hispanics to believe civil war is looming.

"When it came to race, whites (43% likely and 44% unlikely) were not as convinced that there will be another civil war, while Hispanics (53% likely and 43% unlikely) and African Americans (49% likely and 39% unlikely) thought another civil war could happen."

After the election, my trust in polls is approximately 0.5%, but this is not a good thing. It might help if a certain political party stopped actively trying to crucify the candidate half the nation voted for, but what do I know?


From the former United States of America's most trusted news source

Americans seem to be the most united around the belief that civil war is coming 👀

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

notthebee.com

Remember
Take 5 with ya ....

There are scattered militias around the US, so I suppose the government could begin to go after them if they wanted to. Otherwise, it's just a matter of how oppressive the democrats want to treat their political rivals. Exactly how power hungry and controlling can they become? We shall see. And if they do begin to crack down on them it's not like the media has to report on it. They can just kill them all in secret.

I look at what happened in the former USSR. The state became so oppressive that the black market became a larger economy than the state economy. When you make it impossible to get ahead economically legally, they will find an illegal way to do so. And as the black market grew, the state economy deteriorated and wasted away. But with the US and China embracing corporate capitalism,, that is corporations taking over the world, they may side step this problem and learn to flourish as the average citizen is pounded into submission for all eternity.

I think it is a very good idea to study these other countries and their downfalls, so we can learn by their mistakes and not let it happen to the US. Although we are already pretty deep in it now and we are sinking fast.

Not much we can do about it now, is there? It's already happened.

 

[Thoth001]

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

Or perhaps it is. It's hard to tell these days.

Regardless, a sobering new poll from Zogby showed that 46% of Americans believe another civil war is inevitable.

Of all those polled, 16% were very confident that open hostility is imminent.



That's roughly 1 in 6 people who don't believe dialogue or democratic process is still possible.



What's most interesting is that Zogby said a similar amount of people from both political parties believe open hostility is imminent:

"For once, political parties - Republicans (49% likely and 40% unlikely), Democrats (45% likely and 44% unlikely), and independents (42% likely and 44% unlikely) – were somewhat in agreement, but the fact all political stripes think a civil war is inevitable is not the bipartisanship we were hoping for."

Where you live seemed to be a more important metric:

"People in large cities (55% likely and 38% unlikely) were much more likely to think the country will have another civil war than respondents living in the suburbs (36% likely and 48% unlikely)."

People living along the East Coast were also far less likely to believe all-out war is coming (39%) compared to those in the Midwest/Central (48%) and South (49%).

Young peeps were more likely to believe the end is nigh compared to older individuals, and among racial groups, whites were less likely than black or Hispanics to believe civil war is looming.

"When it came to race, whites (43% likely and 44% unlikely) were not as convinced that there will be another civil war, while Hispanics (53% likely and 43% unlikely) and African Americans (49% likely and 39% unlikely) thought another civil war could happen."

After the election, my trust in polls is approximately 0.5%, but this is not a good thing. It might help if a certain political party stopped actively trying to crucify the candidate half the nation voted for, but what do I know?


From the former United States of America's most trusted news source

Americans seem to be the most united around the belief that civil war is coming 👀

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

notthebee.com

Remember
Take 5 with ya ....

There are scattered militias around the US, so I suppose the government could begin to go after them if they wanted to. Otherwise, it's just a matter of how oppressive the democrats want to treat their political rivals. Exactly how power hungry and controlling can they become? We shall see. And if they do begin to crack down on them it's not like the media has to report on it. They can just kill them all in secret.

I look at what happened in the former USSR. The state became so oppressive that the black market became a larger economy than the state economy. When you make it impossible to get ahead economically legally, they will find an illegal way to do so. And as the black market grew, the state economy deteriorated and wasted away. But with the US and China embracing corporate capitalism,, that is corporations taking over the world, they may side step this problem and learn to flourish as the average citizen is pounded into submission for all eternity.

I think it is a very good idea to study these other countries and their downfalls, so we can learn by their mistakes and not let it happen to the US. Although we are already pretty deep in it now and we are sinking fast.

Not much we can do about it now, is there? It's already happened.

We are just on our back foot. There is still time to turn it around. We actually may be better off Biden is in now. Now many of the people that didn't see before, will begin to see now. Many people were blinded because of hate for Trump.

 

[Gracie]

I'm still pissed at Trump..but I sure miss him.

And, the hate runs deeper than their brains. We could ALL be poorer, poverty stricken, ill, taxed to death and they STILL would refuse to see.

 

[Quasar44]

I am against any CW
I want several new nations to form and to break us this failed nation

 

[Votto]

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

Or perhaps it is. It's hard to tell these days.

Regardless, a sobering new poll from Zogby showed that 46% of Americans believe another civil war is inevitable.

Of all those polled, 16% were very confident that open hostility is imminent.



That's roughly 1 in 6 people who don't believe dialogue or democratic process is still possible.



What's most interesting is that Zogby said a similar amount of people from both political parties believe open hostility is imminent:

"For once, political parties - Republicans (49% likely and 40% unlikely), Democrats (45% likely and 44% unlikely), and independents (42% likely and 44% unlikely) – were somewhat in agreement, but the fact all political stripes think a civil war is inevitable is not the bipartisanship we were hoping for."

Where you live seemed to be a more important metric:

"People in large cities (55% likely and 38% unlikely) were much more likely to think the country will have another civil war than respondents living in the suburbs (36% likely and 48% unlikely)."

People living along the East Coast were also far less likely to believe all-out war is coming (39%) compared to those in the Midwest/Central (48%) and South (49%).

Young peeps were more likely to believe the end is nigh compared to older individuals, and among racial groups, whites were less likely than black or Hispanics to believe civil war is looming.

"When it came to race, whites (43% likely and 44% unlikely) were not as convinced that there will be another civil war, while Hispanics (53% likely and 43% unlikely) and African Americans (49% likely and 39% unlikely) thought another civil war could happen."

After the election, my trust in polls is approximately 0.5%, but this is not a good thing. It might help if a certain political party stopped actively trying to crucify the candidate half the nation voted for, but what do I know?


From the former United States of America's most trusted news source

Americans seem to be the most united around the belief that civil war is coming 👀

I don't think this is the era of uNiTy that the powers at be had in mind.

notthebee.com

Remember
Take 5 with ya ....

There are scattered militias around the US, so I suppose the government could begin to go after them if they wanted to. Otherwise, it's just a matter of how oppressive the democrats want to treat their political rivals. Exactly how power hungry and controlling can they become? We shall see. And if they do begin to crack down on them it's not like the media has to report on it. They can just kill them all in secret.

I look at what happened in the former USSR. The state became so oppressive that the black market became a larger economy than the state economy. When you make it impossible to get ahead economically legally, they will find an illegal way to do so. And as the black market grew, the state economy deteriorated and wasted away. But with the US and China embracing corporate capitalism,, that is corporations taking over the world, they may side step this problem and learn to flourish as the average citizen is pounded into submission for all eternity.

I think it is a very good idea to study these other countries and their downfalls, so we can learn by their mistakes and not let it happen to the US. Although we are already pretty deep in it now and we are sinking fast.

Human beings are incapable of learning from history.

That is why they are doomed to repeat it.

Most are ignorant of history, such as the fact that the vast number of people who have walked the earth have been either slaves or forced to fight in the military for the state, etc. Thus, they don't understand human nature and think people are innately "good". This is why they always look to "good" rulers to give them more power over their lives to protect them. Meanwhile, there is more slavery today than at any time in human history, something most are probably ignorant of as well.

 

[Votto]

I'm still pissed at Trump..but I sure miss him.

And, the hate runs deeper than their brains. We could ALL be poorer, poverty stricken, ill, taxed to death and they STILL would refuse to see.

Well taxes will go up and inflation will begin to take what is left.

Eventually the US will become Venezuela.

I think the goal though is the big globalist reset Soros and company are planning world wide.