FEMA Deceives Nation About Twin Towers Core

[Christophera]

My incorrect analysis of a foundation photo does not create "steel core columns". You still have no image of the supposed steel core columns inthe core area and no independently verified evidence of them.

 

[Fizz]

My incorrect analysis of a foundation photo does not create "steel core columns". You still have no image of the supposed steel core columns inthe core area and no independently verified evidence of them.

images of the steel core columns in the core area.

independently verified by

"For a combination of historical, cultural and economic reasons, tall, concrete-core buildings dedicated to office use are unusual in New York, where builders prefer the wallboard-enclosed cores with steel frames that Mr. Robertson pioneered in the trade center."
New York Timeshere

verified by....

"Engineers are still debating whether the Twin Towers' unique structure should be credited for surviving the initial crashes, or blamed for collapsing in the subsequent fires, or both. But the point is that it was unique, utilizing closely spaced columns connected to a steel core by relatively lightweight floor trusses. "
Newsweek. Newsweek.com

verified by....

"Each of the towers, more than 200 ft. wide on each side, contained a central steel core surrounded by open office space. Eighteen-inch steel tubes ran vertically along the outside, providing much of the support for the building"
Time Magazine.TIME.com

verified by....

"The twin towers were the first supertall buildings designed without any masonry. Worried that the intense air pressure created by the building's high speed elevators might buckle conventional shafts, engineers designed a solution using a drywall system fixed to the reinforced steel core. "
engineering.comENGINEERING.com

verified by....

"Like many high-rises built in the 1960s, the Twin Towers were constructed with their weight distributed between a hollow steel core (containing services like elevators) and steel columns around the perimeter, maximizing open floor space. Many believe the older high-rise design, in which steel columns are often encased in concrete, is more fire resistant.

“A lot of people have told me, ‘You should have used more concrete in the structure,’” said Robertson. However, his chart plotting the strength of steel vs. concrete at various temperatures showed that at the incendiary levels that raged in the towers, the two materials become similarly weak."
Berkeley 04.17.2002 - World Trade Center remembered

verified by....

"Yamasaki has switched from concrete, his favorite medium, to steel because of the sheer height of the towers, and instead of having the weight of the structure carried by the frame and the elevator core, the great steel columns of the exterior walls will support it."
Time Magazine article from 1964!! Art: Onward & Upward - TIME


so now that we have that out of the way.... where are your pictures of the concrete core? ANY picture of it?

 

[Gamolon]

My incorrect analysis of a foundation photo does not create "steel core columns". You still have no image of the supposed steel core columns inthe core area and no independently verified evidence of them.

How do you explain your garbage about grillages not being able to support the massive core box columns yet that photo SHOWS grillages being used for the massive core box columns?

Did you make that shit up?

 

[Fizz]

Did you make that shit up?

he makes it ALL up. he never shows any documentation for any of his claims.

he claims the steel core columns are "elevator guide rail supports" yet has never shown one piece of documentation to back that claim up.

he changes the thickness of his non-existent concrete core wall.

he changes the location of it.

the list goes on and on and on.....

 

[Christophera]

My incorrect analysis of a foundation photo does not create "steel core columns". You still have no image of the supposed steel core columns inthe core area and no independently verified evidence of them.

How do you explain your garbage about grillages not being able to support the massive core box columns yet that photo SHOWS grillages being used for the massive core box columns?

Did you make that shit up?

You have not shown a "massive core column" in the core area. I'm the only one that has shown one of those and it is right next to a 12 foot thick concrete base wall.

The reason almost no elevator guide rail supports is seen in the core area at GZ is because there were no foundations for the guide rail support steel. On the left are "interior box columns" which were outside and fastened to the concrete core wall. the green arrows show what guide rails support stel was left. Note they are leaning. That is because they had no foundation.

The red arrow shows one of the outer guide rail support steel which was connected with a beam to the interio box column. The concrete core was cast between the two.

 

[slackjawed]

My incorrect analysis of a foundation photo does not create "steel core columns". You still have no image of the supposed steel core columns inthe core area and no independently verified evidence of them.

How do you explain your garbage about grillages not being able to support the massive core box columns yet that photo SHOWS grillages being used for the massive core box columns?

Did you make that shit up?

You have not shown a "massive core column" in the core area. I'm the only one that has shown one of those and it is right next to a 12 foot thick concrete base wall.

The reason almost no elevator guide rail supports is seen in the core area at GZ is because there were no foundations for the guide rail support steel. On the left are "interior box columns" which were outside and fastened to the concrete core wall. the green arrows show what guide rails support stel was left. Note they are leaning. That is because they had no foundation.

The red arrow shows one of the outer guide rail support steel which was connected with a beam to the interio box column. The concrete core was cast between the two.

Once again you point to something as "evidence" of your claim that completely discredits your claim.
There is no indication in that pic that any concrete other than the floor that was aon the top of the beam shown in your picture ever existed.


here is where you also got your ass handed to you in your propaganda mission, as well as called a lunatic several times, and banned from several places.

Even the other truthers think your either a nutcase or an agent of an enemy to the USA.

Democratic Underground - A link to Christophera's discredited concrete-core theory isn't proof enough for you? n/t - Democratic Underground



World Trade Center Towers Core was Concrete 9/11



Mike Malloy :: View topic - FEMA Deceives Nation About Twin Towers Core
(where he has been banned, and accused of posting from an IP outside the USA, interesting to say the least)


The 'WTC Had a Concrete Core' Hoax, page 1
(where he is debunked AND banned)


9-11 Disinformation and internet forums.
(where he has lied and tried to explain why he has been banned from forums)

Famous "diagonal Cut Column" - Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum
(where is ridiculed and debunked)

Avatar forums presents the concrete core - Page 3 - David Icke's Official Forums
(where is accepted as an ‘expert’ and is a senior member, has a pic of him)

9/11 Mysteries Viewer's Guide
(where his theories are quoted, linked and ebunked)

"The "Official" Unofficial 9/11 Story v.2" | MySpace Forums
(where he is ridiculed, and debunked, as well as dismissed as a kook)

My Reaction to Judy Woods' "Exotic Weapons" theory - We are Change Tampa (Tampa, FL) - Meetup.com
(where is now listed as a former member, guess he was banned)

Nutty 9-11 Physics
(where he debunked and refered to as banned for spreading propaganda)

Some Reflections On Molten Steel - Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum
(where he has presented his theory, it is repeatedly debunked by physics students and professers, and then he gets banned for calling the all ‘agents, what a surprise huh?)

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[Gamolon]

My incorrect analysis of a foundation photo does not create "steel core columns". You still have no image of the supposed steel core columns inthe core area and no independently verified evidence of them.

How do you explain your garbage about grillages not being able to support the massive core box columns yet that photo SHOWS grillages being used for the massive core box columns?

Did you make that shit up?

You have not shown a "massive core column" in the core area. I'm the only one that has shown one of those and it is right next to a 12 foot thick concrete base wall.

Did you or did you not make that shit up about the grillages???

Yes or no?

 

[Fizz]

You have not shown a "massive core column" in the core area. I'm the only one that has shown one of those and it is right next to a 12 foot thick concrete base wall.

The reason almost no elevator guide rail supports is seen in the core area at GZ is because there were no foundations for the guide rail support steel. On the left are "interior box columns" which were outside and fastened to the concrete core wall. the green arrows show what guide rails support stel was left. Note they are leaning. That is because they had no foundation.

The red arrow shows one of the outer guide rail support steel which was connected with a beam to the interio box column. The concrete core was cast between the two.

here's the foundations that you claim dont exist.

you also still have never shown documentation for your absurd "elevator support steel" claim. where are you getting this info from? or are you just making shit up again?

 

[DiveCon]

You have not shown a "massive core column" in the core area. I'm the only one that has shown one of those and it is right next to a 12 foot thick concrete base wall.

The reason almost no elevator guide rail supports is seen in the core area at GZ is because there were no foundations for the guide rail support steel. On the left are "interior box columns" which were outside and fastened to the concrete core wall. the green arrows show what guide rails support stel was left. Note they are leaning. That is because they had no foundation.

The red arrow shows one of the outer guide rail support steel which was connected with a beam to the interio box column. The concrete core was cast between the two.

here's the foundations that you claim dont exist.

you also still have never shown documentation for your absurd "elevator support steel" claim. where are you getting this info from? or are you just making shit up again?

he was making shit up, as usual

 

[Christophera]

Those are elevator pits and grillage stacks inside the core. Exactly like I said.

People should wonder why there are no images of WTC 1 at the point where it was getting above grade in the basement to the 3rd level up. All those photos were taken by guiliani while the courts protect their hiding.

They should wonder why there are so few photos even near the foundation stage.

 

[DiveCon]

Those are elevator pits and grillage stacks inside the core. Exactly like I said.

People should wonder why there are no images of WTC 1 at the point where it was getting above grade in the basement to the 3rd level up. All those photos were taken by guiliani while the courts protect their hiding.

They should wonder why there are so few photos even near the foundation stage.

liar

 

[Gamolon]

Those are elevator pits and grillage stacks inside the core. Exactly like I said.

People should wonder why there are no images of WTC 1 at the point where it was getting above grade in the basement to the 3rd level up. All those photos were taken by guiliani while the courts protect their hiding.

They should wonder why there are so few photos even near the foundation stage.

There are 6 column rows from top to bottom dumbass!!!!

That is the extent of the short axis side of the core. 6 COLUMN ROWS. That photo shows all six. How can they be INSIDE your core?!

Columns rows 1 and 6 had to be outside your core. You claim the light area just outside the darker grillages was where you core was at.

Your claim that the grillages were not good enough for massive core columns has just been debunked by...

YOU!!!!

 

[Gamolon]

How many columns do you count in this drawing you made Chris. How many column along the SHORT side of the core?

6?

That makes the dark grillages, rows 1 and 6, foundation supports for the same massive core box columns YOU claim were OUTSIDE your concrete core.

 

[Fizz]

People should wonder why there are no images of WTC 1 at the point where it was getting above grade in the basement to the 3rd level up. All those photos were taken by guiliani while the courts protect their hiding.

prove it.

 

[Liability]

People should wonder why there are no images of WTC 1 at the point where it was getting above grade in the basement to the 3rd level up. All those photos were taken by guiliani while the courts protect their hiding.

prove it.

Somebody MUST have said it on youBoob at some point. So axin' a Troofer to "prove it" is like axin' a Troofer to post a video!

 

[Christophera]

That makes the dark grillages, rows 1 and 6, foundation supports for the same massive core box columns YOU claim were OUTSIDE your concrete core.

Does this post have independently verified evidence showing steel core columns in the core area on 9-11? Or does it only have the exposed misrepresentations of elevator guide rail support steel and protracted misprision of treason?

Or is it only showing that without the official plans the thread starter cannot produce and will not acknowledge the violations of law depriving us of the plans for the buildings, that analysis of partial, oblique photos of the construction site before the core cannot be properly analysed?

 

[Fizz]

Or is it only showing that without the official plans the thread starter cannot produce and will not acknowledge the violations of law depriving us of the plans for the buildings, that analysis of partial, oblique photos of the construction site before the core cannot be properly analysed?

thats what your alien masters would want you to say

 

[Christophera]

Right after this happens,

The Twin Towers had a concrete core.

And the buildings engineer of record identified a concrete core to Newsweek on September 18, 2001.

 

[Fizz]

Right after this happens,

The Twin Towers had a concrete core.

And the buildings engineer of record identified a concrete core to Newsweek on September 18, 2001.

there is just as much concrete core in your first picture as in your second.

and you still continue to lie and say robertson said something he didnt. it was a reporter saying it. the fact that you need to lie about it proves how ******* stupid your hoax is.

 

[Christophera]

That is wrong.

There is far more concrete in the second picture than there is in this one.

And you will be unable to ever provide an image of steel core columns in the core area.