Federal judge blocks TX "show your papers" law

[radical right]

Detention is usually used in conjunction with juveniles and is where juveniles go when they are detained. Jail is usually a local faciility for local short timers less than 12 months, usually. Prison is usually for sentences over 12 months for individuals who have been convicted of felonies in state or federal court.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Immigration | Visa Overstay and Illegal Presence in the US | ISSS | Temple University
Visa Overstay and Illegal Presence in the US
OVERSTAY AND UNLAWFUL PRESENCE PROVISIONS
In September 1996, Congress passed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA), which imposed penalties on those who stay in the United States beyond the period authorized by the Attorney General. Two new sections of the Immigration and Nationality Act were created to define these penalties:

Read your citation. It's not a crime, the only penalty is revoking the visa, and denying them a new one.

I.N.A. § 222(G) VISA OVERSTAYS
(g)(1) In the case of an alien who has been admitted on the basis of a nonimmigrant visa and remained in the United States beyond the period of stay authorized by the Attorney General, such visa shall be void beginning after the conclusion of such period of stay.

(2) An alien described in paragraph (1) shall be ineligible to be readmitted to the United States as a nonimmigrant

Penalties under 222(g)

If an alien is determined to be a "visa overstay" under this section, he/she is subject to the following penalties:

Cancellation of visa
The law provides that the visa of individuals who overstay is automatically voided

Restriction on place of future visa applications

If subject to INA § 222(g), the alien is permanently limited to applying for future nonimmigrant visas only at a U.S. consular office located in the country of his or her nationality

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Becoming American: Understanding legal and Illegal Immigration
What is an illegal alien?

An illegal alien is someone who is living in the United States illegally; either without the correct legal documentation or by violating the terms of documentation, such as overstaying the time period specified on a tourist or student visa. Illegal aliens have no legal status in the United States.

 

[radical right]

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-detention-center-and-jail

What is the difference between a detention center and jail?

Detention Centers are where detainees (not prisoners) are temporarily confined by the government while awaiting trial, deportation hearings or some other non-criminal, civil process such as mental health evaluation and/or trial for civil commitment to a mental hospital.

Jails are facilities confining persons who are in the custody of the government, such as accused persons awaiting trial, convicted persons serving a short sentence, probation violators, those found in contempt of court,

 

[peach174]

The reason why the Corrupt Democratic Party does every thing that they can to prevent the enforcement of our immigration laws is because they want to make white voters the minority ASAP.
Democrats are just straight-up racist.

They always protect the law breakers but not the American Citizen.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Federal judge blocks Texas' tough 'sanctuary cities' law

I feel sorry for the Texas legislature, having had a setback in their efforts to dismantle the Bill of Rights of the US constitution....

did he also block or ban the show your papers if you are in possession of a firearm?

Do you care about our right to privacy?

no on both counts I'd bet.

 

[Vandalshandle]

It may not appear this way to you, but I am trying to hide my contempt for those that want to repeal the Bill of Rights.

No one wants to do that. Hell, I like guns, porn (old school 80's) I like to come on here and say tasteless nasty things. Simply being able to prove who you are is not an assault on your rights. Matter of fact, it is a way of protecting them. When I used to go to Mexico I had to show ID to get across . Same for when I went into and out of Canada. Now I guess you need a passport. State ID, $21.00. Passport mine was 110 when I got it. Both were easy.

If you don't mind someone trampling on your civil rights, that is fine with me. If someone tramples on mine, it is NOT alright with me.

At what point is asking me for ID unconstitutional?

When the law enforcement officer demands your ID without probable cause, as outlined in the 4th Amendment.

Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

Okay, now that has likely been hashed out and settled a bunch of times, but what is unreasonable search and seizure? And really, the 4th should not apply to non citizens, especially after violating the laws I linked to above. That aside, how would asking for is to vote be unreasonable search and seizure? I mean, if it were why didn't the judge just say that?

I know that i have stated the obvious on this thread at least 10 times. There is no such thing as an illegal alien until a court of law pronounces them guilty of entering the US illegally. Therefore, the constitution applies to everyone on American soil who has not been convicted of entering illegally. Until that happens, they are "undocumented", not "illegal"

 

[Vandalshandle]

Federal judge blocks Texas' tough 'sanctuary cities' law

I feel sorry for the Texas legislature, having had a setback in their efforts to dismantle the Bill of Rights of the US constitution....

The activist judge did nothing of the sort. He put a temp stay on the law for the case to proceed.


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You don't call a federal judge putting a stay on a state law a "setback" to the state legislature?

 

[Vandalshandle]

Federal judge blocks Texas' tough 'sanctuary cities' law

I feel sorry for the Texas legislature, having had a setback in their efforts to dismantle the Bill of Rights of the US constitution....

Go to hell, these activist judges have got to go. This is a clear interference with States police powers. The State certifies every law enforcement agency and they can set any rule they wish in regards to cooperating with immigration. They don't like it, the State can decertify them and take over the police department and sheriffs offices that don't want to abide by the law. I haven't been able to find the written decision yet, I want to see what this asshole actually said.


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The state is interfering with local police. They can not force local police forces to enforce immigration law. Also removing democratically elected local governments is a police state mentality. Yet Greg Abbott claims to be a conservative.

Are you ******* serious? Local police are offers of the state! They take a oath to uphold the constitution. Furthermore they are upholding state law.

Lastly you can and should remove public officials that break the law!


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That is odd. i am a Sheriff's Auxiliary Volunteer, and I took no oath to uphold the US Constitution. In fact, it is beyond my authority to arrest anyone for a federal crime, and I would be fired for it, unless specifically ordered to do so by my superior..

 

[Vandalshandle]

BTW, folks, you don't have to cooperate at a DUI checkpoint unless they have probable cause, either:

You're full of crap, every State has implied consent laws the a apply anytime you operate a motor vehicle on public roads.


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So, this didn't happen, did it?

Apples and oranges. BP in not a State law enforcement officer.


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My constitutional civil rights trump state law. If you don't believe me, go dig up George Wallace, and ask him. I could be arrested illegally for failure to cooperate with a state cop, but if I choose to spend the money, I would win in court, unless he had probable cause. If you don't believe that, ask Sheriff Joe.

Sheriff Joe did nothing wrong except piss off a regressive activist judge. His department was operating under an agreement with ICE during the period he was held in contempt for. They had every right to check immigration status. But hey, let's not let little things like facts get in the way of good commie propaganda, right?


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Nope. He willfully, and knowingly ignored a federal judges order to stop profiling. For that, he was convicted. In the process, the taxpayers of Maricopa County have to fork over millions of dollars in fines to the feds.

 

[Vandalshandle]

The reason why the Corrupt Democratic Party does every thing that they can to prevent the enforcement of our immigration laws is because they want to make white voters the minority ASAP.
Democrats are just straight-up racist.

They always protect the law breakers but not the American Citizen.

The Bill of Rights protects you equally to every other American citizen. Don't like it? Write a letter to founding father, James Madison. He wrote it.

 

[peach174]

No one wants to do that. Hell, I like guns, porn (old school 80's) I like to come on here and say tasteless nasty things. Simply being able to prove who you are is not an assault on your rights. Matter of fact, it is a way of protecting them. When I used to go to Mexico I had to show ID to get across . Same for when I went into and out of Canada. Now I guess you need a passport. State ID, $21.00. Passport mine was 110 when I got it. Both were easy.

If you don't mind someone trampling on your civil rights, that is fine with me. If someone tramples on mine, it is NOT alright with me.

At what point is asking me for ID unconstitutional?

When the law enforcement officer demands your ID without probable cause, as outlined in the 4th Amendment.

Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

Okay, now that has likely been hashed out and settled a bunch of times, but what is unreasonable search and seizure? And really, the 4th should not apply to non citizens, especially after violating the laws I linked to above. That aside, how would asking for is to vote be unreasonable search and seizure? I mean, if it were why didn't the judge just say that?

I know that i have stated the obvious on this thread at least 10 times. There is no such thing as an illegal alien until a court of law pronounces them guilty of entering the US illegally. Therefore, the constitution applies to everyone on American soil who has not been convicted of entering illegally. Until that happens, they are "undocumented", not "illegal"

The two words mean the same thing.
If you can't show your documents you are breaking the law and you are here illegally.
Stop trying to make the two words as being different.
They aren't.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Federal judge blocks Texas' tough 'sanctuary cities' law

I feel sorry for the Texas legislature, having had a setback in their efforts to dismantle the Bill of Rights of the US constitution....

did he also block or ban the show your papers if you are in possession of a firearm?

Do you care about our right to privacy?

no on both counts I'd bet.

I don't know what your point is, but in Texas you can carry your firearm to the Cub Scout Jamboree, if you want.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Have you also noticed that the Racist Democrats are trying to make it impossible to stop the illegal immigration destruction of America?

 

[peach174]

The reason why the Corrupt Democratic Party does every thing that they can to prevent the enforcement of our immigration laws is because they want to make white voters the minority ASAP.
Democrats are just straight-up racist.

They always protect the law breakers but not the American Citizen.

The Bill of Rights protects you equally to every other American citizen. Don't like it? Write a letter to founding father, James Madison. He wrote it.

They are not citizens.

 

[Cellblock2429]

No one wants to do that. Hell, I like guns, porn (old school 80's) I like to come on here and say tasteless nasty things. Simply being able to prove who you are is not an assault on your rights. Matter of fact, it is a way of protecting them. When I used to go to Mexico I had to show ID to get across . Same for when I went into and out of Canada. Now I guess you need a passport. State ID, $21.00. Passport mine was 110 when I got it. Both were easy.

If you don't mind someone trampling on your civil rights, that is fine with me. If someone tramples on mine, it is NOT alright with me.

At what point is asking me for ID unconstitutional?

When the law enforcement officer demands your ID without probable cause, as outlined in the 4th Amendment.

Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

Okay, now that has likely been hashed out and settled a bunch of times, but what is unreasonable search and seizure? And really, the 4th should not apply to non citizens, especially after violating the laws I linked to above. That aside, how would asking for is to vote be unreasonable search and seizure? I mean, if it were why didn't the judge just say that?

I know that i have stated the obvious on this thread at least 10 times. There is no such thing as an illegal alien until a court of law pronounces them guilty of entering the US illegally. Therefore, the constitution applies to everyone on American soil who has not been convicted of entering illegally. Until that happens, they are "undocumented", not "illegal"

/---/ the law says otherwise

 

[Vandalshandle]

If you don't mind someone trampling on your civil rights, that is fine with me. If someone tramples on mine, it is NOT alright with me.

At what point is asking me for ID unconstitutional?

When the law enforcement officer demands your ID without probable cause, as outlined in the 4th Amendment.

Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

Okay, now that has likely been hashed out and settled a bunch of times, but what is unreasonable search and seizure? And really, the 4th should not apply to non citizens, especially after violating the laws I linked to above. That aside, how would asking for is to vote be unreasonable search and seizure? I mean, if it were why didn't the judge just say that?

I know that i have stated the obvious on this thread at least 10 times. There is no such thing as an illegal alien until a court of law pronounces them guilty of entering the US illegally. Therefore, the constitution applies to everyone on American soil who has not been convicted of entering illegally. Until that happens, they are "undocumented", not "illegal"

The two words mean the same thing.
If you can't show your documents you are breaking the law and you are here illegally.
Stop trying to make the two words as being different.
They aren't.

Not true. If Sergent Fascist cop arrests someone for not showing his documentation, he is nothing but an undocumented alien, suspected of being an illegal alien. Only a judge can change him from being "undocumented", to "illegal". In fact, once they get to the police station, if jose calls his wife and has her bring his documentation down to the precinct, he is neither undocumented, nor illegal.

 

[Vandalshandle]

The reason why the Corrupt Democratic Party does every thing that they can to prevent the enforcement of our immigration laws is because they want to make white voters the minority ASAP.
Democrats are just straight-up racist.

They always protect the law breakers but not the American Citizen.

The Bill of Rights protects you equally to every other American citizen. Don't like it? Write a letter to founding father, James Madison. He wrote it.

They are not citizens.

Oh! I didn't know that you had the power to pronounce guilt or innocence. How long have you been a judge, Peach?

 

[Vandalshandle]

If you don't mind someone trampling on your civil rights, that is fine with me. If someone tramples on mine, it is NOT alright with me.

At what point is asking me for ID unconstitutional?

When the law enforcement officer demands your ID without probable cause, as outlined in the 4th Amendment.

Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

Okay, now that has likely been hashed out and settled a bunch of times, but what is unreasonable search and seizure? And really, the 4th should not apply to non citizens, especially after violating the laws I linked to above. That aside, how would asking for is to vote be unreasonable search and seizure? I mean, if it were why didn't the judge just say that?

I know that i have stated the obvious on this thread at least 10 times. There is no such thing as an illegal alien until a court of law pronounces them guilty of entering the US illegally. Therefore, the constitution applies to everyone on American soil who has not been convicted of entering illegally. Until that happens, they are "undocumented", not "illegal"

/---/ the law says otherwise

And still not true. If it were true, why is the US doing this?

Detainees Sentenced in Seconds in ‘Streamline’ Justice on Border

"“As ugly as some people think it is, it’s a bargain for the defendants,” Judge Velasco said in an interview in his chambers. “What we do is constitutional, it satisfies due process. It may not look good, but it does everything the law requires.”

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The reason why the Corrupt Democratic Party does every thing that they can to prevent the enforcement of our immigration laws is because they want to make white voters the minority ASAP.
Democrats are just straight-up racist.

They always protect the law breakers but not the American Citizen.

The Bill of Rights protects you equally to every other American citizen. Don't like it? Write a letter to founding father, James Madison. He wrote it.

keywords "american citizen"

 

[Vandalshandle]

The reason why the Corrupt Democratic Party does every thing that they can to prevent the enforcement of our immigration laws is because they want to make white voters the minority ASAP.
Democrats are just straight-up racist.

They always protect the law breakers but not the American Citizen.

The Bill of Rights protects you equally to every other American citizen. Don't like it? Write a letter to founding father, James Madison. He wrote it.

keywords "american citizen"

...and everyone in America has the constitutional right to a trial to resolve whether or not they are an American citizen. Until convicted otherwise, they are innocent of being an illegal alien.