FBI took records from Mar A Lago covered by attorney client privilege.

[BlueGin]

According to whom? did anyone know about this "standing order" prior to the FBI search of his home?

Do you not see any problems at all in documents becoming declassified merely by being moved from one location to the other without the one doing the declassifying even knowing what they are?

Do you not see the problems that can arise from boxes of unknown documents being made declassified while the copies of those same documents were still considered classified since nobody even knows what documents had been declassified?

According to his staff. And according to the Supreme Court and article 2 of the constitution. He is the ultimate authority on declassification due to being CIC.

 

[multivita-man]

He doesn’t need evidence that he declassified documents. There is no set procedures for presidents to declassify records. He just says they are de classified and they are. Period.

If he were president right now, you'd have a point. He could keep classified records in the Oval Office or take them and read them while sunbathing on the beach because he'd be presidentin'.

The idea that he can retroactively declare them classified is foolish - no rational judge or legal expert would agree with you. The idea that he can claim that he declared them classified without any hard proof is also foolish. Those documents aren't Trump's personal property - they're US government property. They are not his to declare open to the public, and not his to keep. There's a process for deciding which documents can be open to public view and he didn't follow it, so they're classified.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

According to his staff.

One more time...Did anyone know about this "standing order" prior to the FBI search of his home?

Removing whether he had the power to do so or not....

Do you not see any problems at all in documents becoming declassified merely by being moved from one location to the other without the one doing the declassifying even knowing what they are?

Do you not see the problems that can arise from boxes of unknown documents being made declassified while the copies of those same documents were still considered classified since nobody even knows what documents had been declassified?

Do these two things seem like a good practice to you?

 

[bodecea]

Keep grasping at air, CLOWN.

The desperate are getting even more desperate.

 

[bripat9643]

If he were president right now, you'd have a point. He could keep classified records in the Oval Office or take them and read them while sunbathing on the beach because he'd be presidentin'.

The idea that he can retroactively declare them classified is foolish - no rational judge or legal expert would agree with you. The idea that he can claim that he declared them classified without any hard proof is also foolish. Those documents aren't Trump's personal property - they're US government property. They are not his to declare open to the public, and not his to keep. There's a process for deciding which documents can be open to public view and he didn't follow it, so they're classified.

No one says he did it retroactively, moron.

 

[BlueGin]

One more time...Did anyone know about this "standing order" prior to the FBI search of his home?

Removing whether he had the power to do so or not....

Do you not see any problems at all in documents becoming declassified merely by being moved from one location to the other without the one doing the declassifying even knowing what they are?

Do you not see the problems that can arise from boxes of unknown documents being made declassified while the copies of those same documents were still considered classified since nobody even knows what documents had been declassified?

Do these two things seem like a good practice to you?

Apparently you don’t pay attention. His staff and lawyers said that was the procedure he established. A standing order.

 

[multivita-man]

They obviously aren't classified if his lawyers are a party to them, you fucking moron.

They weren't party to them. Just because they see them doesn't mean they're supposed to, but last time I checked, someone doesn't get in legal peril for incidentally seeing or hearing something they weren't intended to see or hear.

 

[Dragonlady]

We don't care what you think.

Keep your socialist rot in the People's Republic of Canada.

Trump Cultists are like alcoholics who have hit rock bottom, but continue to deny that Trump is the current source of their problems, not their saviour. The rest of the world is trying to have an intervention because we want you to succeed. Donald Trump was in the middle of a fraud trial when you elected him.

You don't think at all. Canada isn't a "republic". It's a democracy, as is the USA. The difference being that in Canada, the people decide the government, and in the USA, it's the Republican Party which decides the government.

Gerrymandering, voter suppression, voter ID laws, the Electoral College, and now the phony "anti-fraud" laws Republicans are busy enacting are undermining your Constitution, and the security of your elections. No nation on earth works HARDER at keeping the people from deciding their own government than Americans.

Grow the fuck up and quit the Republican Party while you still have a country, because it Trump was trying to sell out the country. That's why he had all of those boxes in the basement at a public golf club where spies were always welcome.

 

[multivita-man]

No one says he did it retroactively, moron.

So without evidence that they're declassified, those are classified documents then. When you want to buy/sell a house, you can't just do it with a handshake and claim the house is yours. I mean you can but the county you're in won't see it that way. There's paperwork involved. Same with classified info.

Your problem is logic, or rather the lack of it.

 

[Dragonlady]

Apparently you don’t pay attention. His staff and lawyers said that was the procedure he established. A standing order.

His staff and lawyers also said he had returned all "classified" documents, so that's meaningless. The documents had NOT been declassified, and the employee who reported that he still retained Top Secret documents was correct, despite his lawyers telling the National Archives that all documents had been returned.

There were sets of documents at Mar-A-Lago which are not supposed to be viewed outside of secure facility, and which Trump had NO AUTHORITY to de-classify, so any claims of "declassification" on those documents is just more Trumpian bullshit and deflection.

This is treasonous behaviour. What was he doing with the stuff, and who was he planning on giving/selling it to?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

His staff and lawyers said that was the procedure he established. A standing order.

One MORE TIME....did anyone know about this standing order prior to the FBI searching his home?

Had anyone ever mentioned this standing order prior to the FBI searching his home?

And also...why will you not answer these questions?

Do you not see any problems at all in documents becoming declassified merely by being moved from one location to the other without the one doing the declassifying even knowing what they are?

Do you not see the problems that can arise from boxes of unknown documents being made declassified while the copies of those same documents were still considered classified since nobody even knows what documents had been declassified?

Do these two things seem like a good practice to you?

 

[BULLDOG]

They can't get through a government issued search warrant, moron.

You're silly. They might not be able to subpoena doccuments from his lawyers, but no reason why they can't subpoena them from trump.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

As is often the case. It's far from rare where a judge has to rule on permissible evidence. Everyone but the jury has seen it.

It doesn't matter with a corrupt FBI.

 

[pknopp]

It doesn't matter with a corrupt FBI.

Well you are ranting about something...............

 

[bripat9643]

The desperate are getting even more desperate.

Yes you are.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Well you are ranting about something...............

Making a factual statement to a leftist is like ranking fingernails on a chalkboard.

 

[bripat9643]

They weren't party to them. Just because they see them doesn't mean they're supposed to, but last time I checked, someone doesn't get in legal peril for incidentally seeing or hearing something they weren't intended to see or hear.

Dumbass, not all the documents the FBI hauled away were government documents. Some of them were Trump's personal documents. They just took everything that wasn't nailed down.

Is it possible to be any dumber than your typical prog?

 

[bripat9643]

You're silly. They might not be able to subpoena doccuments from his lawyers, but no reason why they can't subpoena them from trump.

Yes there is, dumbass. It's called "attorney client privilege." The documents were communications between Trump and his lawyers.

You are a special kind of stupid.

 

[bripat9643]

So without evidence that they're declassified, those are classified documents then.

Wrong. The evidence that they're declassified is the fact that Trump took them when he left the Whitehouse.

When you want to buy/sell a house, you can't just do it with a handshake and claim the house is yours. I mean you can but the county you're in won't see it that way. There's paperwork involved. Same with classified info.

Declassification is not a sales agreement, fuckstick.

Your problem is logic, or rather the lack of it.

Yes, you definitely do lack the capacity to commit logic.

 

[bripat9643]

They weren't party to them. Just because they see them doesn't mean they're supposed to, but last time I checked, someone doesn't get in legal peril for incidentally seeing or hearing something they weren't intended to see or hear.

Trump and his lawyers created the documents in question, you fucking moron. You're so brainwashed you believe all 20 boxes contained nothing but classified material. The reality is that probably none of it is classified.

Arguing with progs is like teaching in a school for the developmentally disabled.