It seems clear the "bans" are unconstitutional.
If the point is the govt and laws should be NEUTRAL of one-sided bias
(that imposes or establishes a "belief" the other side doesn't believe in)
then the laws should NEITHER "require" NOR "ban" gay marriage.
The laws should be NEUTRAL by ALLOWING churches to recognize or decline,
but in NO WAY should the state be abused to force churches or people
either to ban or to establish gay marriage.
The state should only handle NEUTRAL civil contracts totally independent of
any religious/church beliefs. Marriages involving spiritual, religious or other personal beliefs that not all people share should remain the free choice of the people by Amendments 1, 10, 14.
It is interesting that "equality" is enforced SELECTIVELY depending on people's CREEDS which violates the Fourteenth Amendment:
* extreme supporters of traditional marriage not only want to oppose gay marriage,
but want to abuse the govt to IMPOSE this stance which EXCLUDES those who believe in the CHOICE of gay marriage
(so that crosses the line into exclusion and imposition of religious bias)
* extreme supporters of gay marriage not only want the "free choice" but want to
abuse govt to REQUIRE people, churches, states to endorse/establish this choice AGAINST beliefs of others
(so that crosses the line where it is no longer neutral but imposes a bias where laws are not written neutrally)
* similarly, people on both sides of the Roe V Wade/prochoice issue don't "equally include" each other's prochoice and prolife views;
and the same has come up with ACA, Hobby Lobby, and other lawsuits over limits on liberty, discrimination, and anti-discrimination
I believe this is happening because people who fail to resolve or separate conflicts among themselves
are ABUSING GOVT to try to settle their disputes for them, which is going to fail either way.
If people have a RELIGIOUS dispute because they have conflicting BELIEFS, whichever side the govt rules
is GOING TO EXCLUDE and discriminate against the opposing side. This is set up to fail from the start because the people did not agree to respect each other's beliefs.
The judges/courts in such cases should require that the people involved RESOLVE THEIR OWN CONFLICTS or SEPARATE, and NOT abuse govt to "establish one side over the other."
No win situation -- the govt is NOT supposed to endorse any such bias, belief or creed at the expense, exclusion or discrimination against the creed of other people.
That goes for both sides, who are too busy working to exclude the other, and to try to entice govt to do the same which is in violation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments.
Political lobbies and parties that "collectively" seek to undermine the equal beliefs, protections and liberties of others should be sued for conspiring to violate civil rights.
? Conservative Christians Plan 40 Day Hunger Strike ? A Temper Tantrum To Demonstrate Hatred Of Gay People
“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal. Surely this means all of us.”
Judge Arenda L. Wright Allen of United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, in Norfolk wrote these words in February in a decision that overturned Virginia’s ban on same-sex marriage. Ever since, conservative Christians have been throwing a fit over it. This week, a group of desperate Christians announced their intention to fast for 40 days and 40 nights in the name of hate. It’s basically the same idea that a religious bigot in Utah attempted back in January.
Members of a religious organization called the Family Foundation are so hungry for hatred that they want to throw a temper tantrum for 40 days to protest same-sex marriage. In a statement, the group claims that the federal government, the media, corporations, the public education system, and the entertainment industry are all ganging up against churches in the fight for equality.
“Our state and nation are mired in a morass of confusion and post-modern thinking that does not believe in absolutes nor that any truth can even be known,” the statement says. “Nowhere is this more evident than in the current debate raging about what constitutes marriage. Pagan philosophies, a secular humanist education establishment and an entertainment industry that is absolutely determined in pushing the envelope on decency and morality have all combined to turn this great land into a country that our forefathers could not even begin to recognize.[/QUOTE]
Incomprehensible.
What would their god have to say about this?
