Fast food workers strike

[deltex1]

Fast Food Workers Plan To Strike Nationwide Thursday

Any one seen any yet today? I'm curious as to who organized this. Obviously the participants don't have much in the way foresight. Probably why they're working at McDonald's in the first place.

Give them the raise...increase burger price to ten bucks...no customers...lay off workers....how much you makin' now Leroy??????

 

[shintao]

? Because lower paid workers are better workers ?

No because workers who do their job good are paid better...

Not in fast food joints. Have you ever worked in one? Its usually half slackers and half real workers. The real workers seldom get paid any significant amount more than the slackers.

unless they had lines going out the door a 25 minute wait time does not qualify as doing a good job.

The people who took 25 minutes to get me my food obviously weren't the ones on strike.

I don't ever expect people getting less than $8 an hour to do a "good job" at anything, btw.

Good point. no skills, low pay according to cons, so when they get shorted at the register they should expect it, when they get injected with the wrong vaccine, they should expect it.

 

[PredFan]

There is a flip side to that. While most anyone can be trained to work in a fast food restaurant, those people work harder than just about anyone.

Not really.

Why do you say that? Do you know, or is this a Limbaugh talking point, or.......?? Why do you suppose they call it Fast Food? How many meals does a Fast food cook serve for low wages, compared to a resturant cook with high wages? Who works harder?

I worked on a steel crew welding I -beams, bar joists, runners and the corrogated metal roofing material. I guarantee you they didn't work as hard as I did. My first job was at a McDonalds. I know.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Wow. What great support for the strikers.

ROFLMAO!

And anyone who would wait in line at McD's for 25 minutes is a McMoron.

I live in a right-to-freeload state.

I didn't wait in line for 25 minutes.

You are a LAIR.

SRSLY

Both of my statements are correct.

 

[PredFan]

Take less from your employer and maybe you'll keep your shitty job longer.

Make it worth the employers while to keep you, and you will be kept.

Not an overly difficult premise to understand.

Truth.

 

[PredFan]

No because workers who do their job good are paid better...

Not in fast food joints. Have you ever worked in one? Its usually half slackers and half real workers. The real workers seldom get paid any significant amount more than the slackers.

unless they had lines going out the door a 25 minute wait time does not qualify as doing a good job.

The people who took 25 minutes to get me my food obviously weren't the ones on strike.

I don't ever expect people getting less than $8 an hour to do a "good job" at anything, btw.

Good point. no skills, low pay according to cons, so when they get shorted at the register they should expect it, when they get injected with the wrong vaccine, they should expect it.

The people who are giving vaccines are making minimum wage?

Who knew?

You are a moron.

 

[Mr Natural]

Take less from your employer and maybe you'll keep your shitty job longer.

Make it worth the employers while to keep you, and you will be kept.

Not an overly difficult premise to understand.

And one way to make it worth your employer's while is to take less from him.

Poor guy, he's got to eat too afterall.

 

[shintao]

Fast Food Workers Plan To Strike Nationwide Thursday

Any one seen any yet today? I'm curious as to who organized this. Obviously the participants don't have much in the way foresight. Probably why they're working at McDonald's in the first place.

Give them the raise...increase burger price to ten bucks...no customers...lay off workers....how much you makin' now Leroy??????

Economics do not work that way jones. When a Nat. min raise is given prices go up in all businesses, so consumers are faced with the same prices regardless of where they go. Gasoline is something you might find eaiser to relate pricing to. And if businesses are under selling and taking less profit margin or working volume, they will get more customers. That is a managerial decision. Its simplistic to think a wage rate climb shuts American down. LMAO!!

 

[blackhawk]

? Because lower paid workers are better workers ?

No because workers who do their job good are paid better...

Not in fast food joints. Have you ever worked in one? Its usually half slackers and half real workers. The real workers seldom get paid any significant amount more than the slackers.

unless they had lines going out the door a 25 minute wait time does not qualify as doing a good job.

The people who took 25 minutes to get me my food obviously weren't the ones on strike.

I don't ever expect people getting less than $8 an hour to do a "good job" at anything, btw.

When you demand and expect nothing from people that's usually what you get I have worked minimum wage jobs before and used them for what they are a starting place to get to something better for the record it does no matter where you work at a fast food joint or a fortune 500 company if you go in with a I don't give dam attitude you won't go anywhere there.

 

[Bern80]

If minimum wage went up automatically with inflation the effects would be less deleterious to business than waiting to make one big raise every 5-10 years.

Again, if it's not going to be enough to live on (and is shouldn't be used as such) what point is there in having a minimum wage at all?

In my opinion, the minimum wage SHOULD be enough to live on. The problem is that a lot of people making minimum wage aren't living within their means. This is also a problem with people making much more than the minimum wage. If you make $7.25 an hour don't expect to be able to buy an IPad. If you do want one, learn a skill and earn it.

It want you to hear me out as I explain why that doesn't logistically work. If you stipulate that a person should make at least enough to live on, that is going to result in extremely unfair compensation for individuals doing the same work. No two people are going to have the same living expenses, yet if you insist that people should make enough to live on, then that would require paying people who day the same job different wages.

The other problem is the immorality of it. If you say someone has the right to make at least enough to live on, that would mean it is not their obligation to provide that for themselves. Yet that money has to come from somewhere. In this case, the employer. So while you say one person is entitled to make at least enough to live on doing the bare minimum, that requires that someone else earn that for them, plus enough for themselves to live on. The proposal is a paradox. For one to acquire that which you say they are entitled to, someone else must actually do what you say they should NOT be required to do.

 

[Jarhead]

Take less from your employer and maybe you'll keep your shitty job longer.

Make it worth the employers while to keep you, and you will be kept.

Not an overly difficult premise to understand.

And one way to make it worth your employer's while is to take less from him.

Poor guy, he's got to eat too afterall.

Wrong answer.....but nice try...and thanks for playing!

If you agree to take less from your employer, you are selling yourself short and most smart employers will likely lose respect for you.

If, however, you make yourself indispensable....have a differential....show your value....you will likely keep your job and more likely get a raise.

You see....you refuse to think like a business owner.

And thus why you will never get it.

I know...I know....."you were a business owner for many years and made enough money to buy and sell me"...

Sure you did.

 

[PredFan]

Fast Food Workers Plan To Strike Nationwide Thursday

Any one seen any yet today? I'm curious as to who organized this. Obviously the participants don't have much in the way foresight. Probably why they're working at McDonald's in the first place.

Give them the raise...increase burger price to ten bucks...no customers...lay off workers....how much you makin' now Leroy??????

Economics do not work that way jones. When a Nat. min raise is given prices go up in all businesses, so consumers are faced with the same prices regardless of where they go. Gasoline is something you might find eaiser to relate pricing to. And if businesses are under selling and taking less profit margin or working volume, they will get more customers. That is a managerial decision. Its simplistic to think a wage rate climb shuts American down. LMAO!!

Typical liberal dumbass. you guys think that there is this huge bottomless cloud of money up in the sky that we can take money from as much as we want to.

I blame the Teacher's Unions for this kind of stupidity.

 

[shintao]

Not in fast food joints. Have you ever worked in one? Its usually half slackers and half real workers. The real workers seldom get paid any significant amount more than the slackers.


The people who took 25 minutes to get me my food obviously weren't the ones on strike.

I don't ever expect people getting less than $8 an hour to do a "good job" at anything, btw.

Good point. no skills, low pay according to cons, so when they get shorted at the register they should expect it, when they get injected with the wrong vaccine, they should expect it.

The people who are giving vaccines are making minimum wage?

Who knew?

You are a moron.

Oh, the poor boys mind can only focus on one thing at a time. Imbeciles think that way, dumbass.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Let them strike.

It will keep us the hell out of the cheap-o joints.

None of that food is any good for anybody anyway.

The present minimum wage is already over-paying the folks who work on the lines at places like McDonalds to be brutally frank about it.

Forget that whole jazz about "would you like Fries with that?"

More than half the time I'd appreciate just getting what the **** I had ordered.

After eating it, I always regret going there anyway.

I dine there when I travel on the road (vacation pit stops) and maybe one or two other times per year. It's all shit. So, STRIKE motherfuckers. STRIKE!

 

[Jarhead]

Again, if it's not going to be enough to live on (and is shouldn't be used as such) what point is there in having a minimum wage at all?

In my opinion, the minimum wage SHOULD be enough to live on. The problem is that a lot of people making minimum wage aren't living within their means. This is also a problem with people making much more than the minimum wage. If you make $7.25 an hour don't expect to be able to buy an IPad. If you do want one, learn a skill and earn it.

It want you to hear me out as I explain why that doesn't logistically work. If you stipulate that a person should make at least enough to live on, that is going to result in extremely unfair compensation for individuals doing the same work. No two people are going to have the same living expenses, yet if you insist that people should make enough to live on, then that would require paying people who day the same job different wages.

The other problem is the immorality of it. If you say someone has the right to make at least enough to live on, that would mean it is not their obligation to provide that for themselves. Yet that money has to come from somewhere. In this case, the employer. So while you say one person is entitled to make at least enough to live on doing the bare minimum, that requires that someone else earn that for them, plus enough for themselves to live on. The proposal is a paradox. For one to acquire that which you say they are entitled to, someone else must actually do what you say they should NOT be required to do.

Not to mention the economic ramifications of the premise...

If minimum wage were enough for one to live on......most teenagers would be without a job.

Without a job, they would be on the streets....and more likely to get into trouble.

In a few decades, we will have more people in jail than in the workforce.

Demand for goods and services would decrease dramatically...and we will fail as an economy and as a country.

Truth is....minimum wage being enough to live on is the most ridiculous UN- THOUTOUT idea I have ever heard.

 

[shintao]

Give them the raise...increase burger price to ten bucks...no customers...lay off workers....how much you makin' now Leroy??????

Economics do not work that way jones. When a Nat. min raise is given prices go up in all businesses, so consumers are faced with the same prices regardless of where they go. Gasoline is something you might find eaiser to relate pricing to. And if businesses are under selling and taking less profit margin or working volume, they will get more customers. That is a managerial decision. Its simplistic to think a wage rate climb shuts American down. LMAO!!

Typical liberal dumbass. you guys think that there is this huge bottomless cloud of money up in the sky that we can take money from as much as we want to.

I blame the Teacher's Unions for this kind of stupidity.

Typical dumbass con, borrow & spend mentality. What a fking dumbass!! He thinks he should get his meals free just because he fked up the economy. LMAO!!! Hey dumb fk, show us that China-credit card of yours.

If you can't afford fast food, stay the fk home and cook your own meals dumbass.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I can see moving the minimum wage up to $8.00 or $8.25 a hour but $15.00 a hour get real.

I think $10 to $12 is justifiable in some of the big cities like New York, LA, San Fran, Chicago, etc... $8 to $10 would be decent in areas where the cost of living is much lower. One problem with the federal minimum wage is that it does not take into account the cost of living from one area to another. Rent where I live averages $600 per month; in Chicago it averages $1200. In New York, I'd imagine it is a bit higher than Chicago. $7.25 goes a lot farther in Ohio than it does in Chicago or New York, and even here in Ohio the state minimum is up to $7.85 I believe.

Very few people who work in New York actually live there, especially Manhattan.

But from the look of these posts here, it seems like many have forgotten about the debacle of the economy which started in 2008, and which they like to blame on Obama, of course.

And so all of these fast food workers are just a bunch of bums who don't know how to get a real job over the last few years, even though there aren't any.

Righties on this board like to carefully monitor the unemployment rate and say it's much higher than actually reported and they talk about the imminent economic collapse, but somehow all these restaurant workers striking today should be smarter and have a better job by now.

These people want to work, not go on food stamps. But that's still not good enough for a bunch of assholes who don't know what it's like to try to live off $1100 a month after many have lost their good paying jobs DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION.

Oh lookie.... another it's all Bush's fault post!!

You're such a simp.

 

[Jarhead]

Economics do not work that way jones. When a Nat. min raise is given prices go up in all businesses, so consumers are faced with the same prices regardless of where they go. Gasoline is something you might find eaiser to relate pricing to. And if businesses are under selling and taking less profit margin or working volume, they will get more customers. That is a managerial decision. Its simplistic to think a wage rate climb shuts American down. LMAO!!

Typical liberal dumbass. you guys think that there is this huge bottomless cloud of money up in the sky that we can take money from as much as we want to.

I blame the Teacher's Unions for this kind of stupidity.

Typical dumbass con, borrow & spend mentality. What a fking dumbass!! He thinks he should get his meals free just because he fked up the economy. LMAO!!! Hey dumb fk, show us that China-credit card of yours.

If you can't afford fast food, stay the fk home and cook your own meals dumbass.

what are you....like......3 ?????

 

[Bern80]

Where do people with foresight work?

I meant lack of foresight in participating in the protests and what would actually happen should they be successful. You have a bunch of people claiming they don't make enough at these jobs to support themselves. Say in some goofy world they actually get their $15.00/hr. What happens then? The cost of fast food goes up. People start making different decisions about where they get their food. McDonald's get's less business requiring fewere employees so now some of the people protesting for more money now have no money. As I said, lack of foresight.

Although minimum wage has been jacked up numerous times since McDonald's opened its first store - it has yet to cause McDonald's to stop growing.

You'll have to forgive the lowly fast food employees for relying on real empirical data rather than your white board theoretical toy model.

Here is a prime example of a person who should NOT be working at McDonalds:

"They make millions that come from our feet. They can afford to pay us better," Shaniqua Davis, 20, told AFP at a demonstration outside a McDonald's on New York's posh Fifth Avenue.

Davis has a one-year-old child and works at a branch of the restaurant in the Bronx where she earns $7.25 an hour.

"I have bills to pay. I need to buy diapers. I can hardly buy food. I am treated good but we need more money."

She said if it wasn't for food stamps and help she received to pay her rent "I would already be on the street." US fast food workers strike to supersize wages

A single mother is the last person that should be trying to make ends meet working at McDonalds.

Oh of course not, she should have become a CEO instead.

Obviously.

The poor decisions she made that got her where she is not withstanding she should be doing whatever she needs to improve her skill set to a value that is worth what she needs to support herself and her child.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

I meant lack of foresight in participating in the protests and what would actually happen should they be successful. You have a bunch of people claiming they don't make enough at these jobs to support themselves. Say in some goofy world they actually get their $15.00/hr. What happens then? The cost of fast food goes up. People start making different decisions about where they get their food. McDonald's get's less business requiring fewere employees so now some of the people protesting for more money now have no money. As I said, lack of foresight.

Although minimum wage has been jacked up numerous times since McDonald's opened its first store - it has yet to cause McDonald's to stop growing.

You'll have to forgive the lowly fast food employees for relying on real empirical data rather than your white board theoretical toy model.

Here is a prime example of a person who should NOT be working at McDonalds:



A single mother is the last person that should be trying to make ends meet working at McDonalds.

Oh of course not, she should have become a CEO instead.

Obviously.

The poor decisions she made that got her where she is not withstanding

How the **** on Earth would you have any clue as to what decisions she made and how she got where she is at? Do you know her personally? That seems awfully presumptuous of you. Of course conservatives know everything about everything and everyone and when they don't they'll just make it the **** up.