The ICE protests/riots are not about ICE

[scruffy]

They (ICE) are targeting and harassing individuals who are exercising their First Amendment right to petition the government for a redress of grievances—in other words, to protest, speak out, or demand accountability.

So you agree that this action is exactly like J6.

One example: authorities often retaliate against those who record or livestream them. Despite attempts in some states to criminalize recording law enforcement, courts have repeatedly ruled that video recording public officials in public spaces is protected First Amendment activity. That hasn’t stopped some officers from responding with intimidation, violence, or false arrests. Whether through excessive force or threats of retaliation, the chilling effect on speech is the same.

Video is only 5% of the protester's activity. The other 95% is harassment to the point of extreme nuisance.

Additionally, ICE ERO officers do not have legal authority over U.S. citizens. If they detain, search, or seize individuals without a warrant or probable cause, especially when targeting protesters or bystanders, they may also be violating Fourth Amendment protections against unlawful search and seizure.

Any federal officer can stop any attempt to keep him from doing his job. For any reason! That is the law.

And when ICE agents use lethal force against U.S. citizens—people over whom they have no legal jurisdiction—it raises serious constitutional questions, including potential violations of the Fifth Amendments. No officer or agency has the power to act as judge, jury, and executioner. The Constitution guarantees that no one shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law (.

Law doesn't enter the picture in a real time situation. If it's you or me it'll be you first, kinda thing. No one has time to consult a lawyer

This isn’t just about immigration policy. It’s about whether government agents are obeying the Constitution—especially when it comes to the rights of U.S. citizens caught in the crosshairs.

So the left suddenly cares about the Constitution? Even with a capital C? (I was kicked off of DU for using a capital C - just sayin). The same Constitution they trampled on to cause this problem in the first place?

You do realize that Biden and Mayorkas violated the US Code every single day by leaving the borders open?

And now you're seeking redress through the Constitution? Suddenly you care about your rights?

Here's a hint: you'll graduate from this scenario when you care as much about my rights as you do about yours.

 

[OODA_Loop]

They (ICE) are targeting and harassing individuals who are exercising their First Amendment right to petition the government for a redress of grievances—in other words, to protest, speak out, or demand accountability.

One example: authorities often retaliate against those who record or livestream them. Despite attempts in some states to criminalize recording law enforcement, courts have repeatedly ruled that video recording public officials in public spaces is protected First Amendment activity. That hasn’t stopped some officers from responding with intimidation, violence, or false arrests. Whether through excessive force or threats of retaliation, the chilling effect on speech is the same.

Additionally, ICE ERO officers do not have legal authority over U.S. citizens. If they detain, search, or seize individuals without a warrant or probable cause, especially when targeting protesters or bystanders, they may also be violating Fourth Amendment protections against unlawful search and seizure.

And when ICE agents use lethal force against U.S. citizens—people over whom they have no legal jurisdiction—it raises serious constitutional questions, including potential violations of the Fifth Amendments. No officer or agency has the power to act as judge, jury, and executioner. The Constitution guarantees that no one shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law (.

This isn’t just about immigration policy. It’s about whether government agents are obeying the Constitution—especially when it comes to the rights of U.S. citizens caught in the crosshairs.

Example?

 

[HikerGuy83]

Being asked to leave is fine, that's what they're supposed to do.

And if the crowd doesn't comply then the agents are allowed to escalate to the use of more coerce measures. But that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about them tacking people to the ground, opening the doors of people in their vehicles and dragging them out and throwing them on the ground, group of agents dogpiling citizens, etc. THAT kind of behavior.

And your point is valid if there is a record of such things (and I believe I have seen videos of things like this so I am not disputing it).

However, it has to be done in context.

 

[IM2]

Lol, you loons sacrificed 2 of your own to violently protest. To protect thieves, rapist, and murderers. That's the only reason you care that they died, to use them for your agenda.

More MAGAT lunacy.

 

[IM2]

So you agree that this action is exactly like J6.



Video is only 5% of the protester's activity. The other 95% is harassment to the point of extreme nuisance.



Any federal officer can stop any attempt to keep him from doing his job. For any reason! That is the law.



Law doesn't enter the picture in a real time situation. If it's you or me it'll be you first, kinda thing. No one has time to consult a lawyer



So the left suddenly cares about the Constitution? Even with a capital C? (I was kicked off of DU for using a capital C - just sayin). The same Constitution they trampled on to cause this problem in the first place?

You do realize that Biden and Mayorkas violated the US Code every single day by leaving the borders open?

And now you're seeking redress through the Constitution? Suddenly you care about your rights?

Here's a hint: you'll graduate from this scenario when you care as much about my rights as you do about yours.

Nothing you posted is true.

 

[jknowgood]

More MAGAT lunacy.

No, you loons are rioting to keep child molesters, murderers, and thieves in the country.

 

[IM2]

No, you loons are rioting to keep child molesters, murderers, and thieves in the country.

Wrong again.

 

[jknowgood]

Wrong again.

They are letting criminals loose instead of handing them over in Minnesota, dumbass.

 

[Marener]

No, you loons are rioting to keep child molesters, murderers, and thieves in the country.

No one buys your gaslighting. Not when we see with our own eyes who ICE is going after.

 

[jknowgood]

No one buys your gaslighting. Not when we see with our own eyes who ICE is going after.

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Lol, only reason he was there. Is his dad took off running, why don't you care about that?

 

[Marener]

Lol, only reason he was there. Is his dad took off running, why don't you care about that?

The child lives there. That’s the reason he was there.

The reason ICE was there was to arrest a child and his whole family.

Are these the people you’re referring to or are you just trying to gaslight us?

 

[jknowgood]

The child lives there. That’s the reason he was there.

The reason ICE was there was to arrest a child and his whole family.

Are these the people you’re referring to or are you just trying to gaslight us?

The dad took off leaving his son there, dumbass. As an American citizen if I did the same. Child protection services, would take my child and give me a prison sentence. You're such a pawn.

 

[Marener]

The dad took off leaving his son there, dumbass. As an American citizen if I did the same. Child protection services, would take my child and give me a prison sentence. You're such a pawn.

It’s irrelevant.

ICE was going to arrest the 5 year old regardless of whether his dad fled or not because he’s one of those “criminals” that you people say we need to be protected from.

 

[Hafar1014]

More MAGAT lunacy.

Democrats use the emotionally disturbed to be political vigilantes and they get themselves killed for it cannon fodder for the left

 

[IM2]

Democrats use the emotionally disturbed to be political vigilantes and they get themselves killed for it cannon fodder for the left

Your comment shows that you are an emotionally disturbed person.

 

[IM2]

Lol, only reason he was there. Is his dad took off running, why don't you care about that?

Stop lying to yourself about this.

 

[IM2]

They are letting criminals loose instead of handing them over in Minnesota, dumbass.

You elected a criminal to be the president, so shut up pretending you give a rats patooie about crime.

 

[jknowgood]

It’s irrelevant.

ICE was going to arrest the 5 year old regardless of whether his dad fled or not because he’s one of those “criminals” that you people say we need to be protected from.

His dad took off, if a white dad did the same. You would go nuts.

 

[IM2]

His dad took off, if a white dad did the same. You would go nuts.

A white dad would not be getting stopped by ICE.

 

[jknowgood]

Stop lying to yourself about this.

He took off running, like you would, brother.