Fascism or Socialism?

[Oddball]

Libertarians vote Trump, Trumptards attacked the capitol.

'Infiltrators, agent provocateurs'?
Sure, anyone but Trumptards.

So gullible, just like Trump.

A lot of libertarians don't vote at all, dipschitt.

You wouldn't know a libertarian from a ham sammich.

 

[dblack]

Libertarians vote Trump

No, they don't.

 

[Smokin' OP]

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Right, Trumptard.

Fascism sought to accommodate Italian conservatives by making major alterations to its political agenda—abandoning its previous populism, republicanism and anticlericalism, adopting policies in support of free enterprise and accepting the Catholic Church and the monarchy as institutions in Italy.

To appeal to Italian conservatives, Fascism adopted policies such as promoting family values, including policies designed to reduce the number of women in the workforce—limiting the woman's role to that of a mother. The Fascists banned literature on birth control and increased penalties for abortion in 1926, declaring both crimes against the state.

Although Fascism adopted a number of anti-modern positions designed to appeal to people upset with the new trends in sexuality and women's rights—especially those with a reactionary point of view—the Fascists sought to maintain Fascism's revolutionary character, with Angelo Oliviero Olivetti saying: "Fascism would like to be conservative, but it will [be] by being revolutionary."

The Fascists supported revolutionary action and committed to secure law and order to appeal to both conservatives and syndicalists.

 

[Smokin' OP]

You're a fucking intellectual Lilliputian.

Should go play a game of Candyland with the other children.

You think Trump is a genius.

That makes you an imbecile.

 

[Smokin' OP]

A lot of libertarians don't vote at all, dipschitt.

You wouldn't know a libertarian from a ham sammich.

A lot of people don't vote moron.

156 million people voted, out 330 million.

 

[Oddball]

A lot of people don't vote moron.

156 million people voted, out 330 million.

The first thing that you've said that is correct....And a large portion of the non-voting are libertarians types, who don't approve The State in any form, and voting gives it tacit approval.

Like I said, you know nothing about libertarians or libertarrianism...You should really STFU and quit embarrassing yourself.

 

[Smokin' OP]

No, they don't.

Dr. Jo Jorgensen

Jeremy 'Spike' Cohen

Libertarian

1,865,616

Joseph R. Biden, Jr.	Kamala D. Harris	Democratic	81,286,358	56.9%
Donald J. Trump	Michael R. Pence	Republican	74,225,839	43.1%

So, there are more?

 

[dblack]

Dr. Jo Jorgensen

Jeremy 'Spike' Cohen

Libertarian

1,865,616

Joseph R. Biden, Jr.	Kamala D. Harris	Democratic	81,286,358	56.9%
Donald J. Trump	Michael R. Pence	Republican	74,225,839	43.1%

So, there are more?

More what?

 

[Smokin' OP]

The first thing that you've said that is correct....And a large portion of the non-voting are libertarians types, who don't approve The State in any form, and voting gives it tacit approval.

Like I said, you know nothing about libertarians or libertarrianism...You should really STFU and quit embarrassing yourself.

Really?

So, they are like these people?

laws to obey and which to ignore. Most sovereign citizens also don’t believe they should have to pay taxes.


Sovereign citizens believe that they – not judges, juries, law enforcement or elected officials – should decide which laws to obey and which to ignore. Most sovereign citizens also don’t believe they should have to pay taxes. They clog up the courts with indecipherable filings and, when cornered, many of them lash out, retaliating through acts of paper terrorism and, in the most extreme cases, acts of deadly violence – usually directed against government officials.

In May 2010, for example, a father-son team of sovereigns murdered two police officers with an assault rifle when they were pulled over on the interstate while traveling through West Memphis, Arkansas.

The roots of the movement are racist and antisemitic. It was founded by William Potter Gale, former member of the John Birch Society. Potter formed a group of antigovernment Christian Identity adherents who mistrusted state and federal officials.

 

[Smokin' OP]

More what?

More than 2 million people in the libertarian party.

 

[dblack]

More than 2 million people in the libertarian party.

I don't know how many there are. Do you have a point? Please make it, so-crates.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump is a fascist, loves communism and N. Korea.

Can't you tell that he was blowing sunshine up the man's ass?

 

[bripat9643]

Right, Trumptard.

Fascism sought to accommodate Italian conservatives by making major alterations to its political agenda—abandoning its previous populism, republicanism and anticlericalism, adopting policies in support of free enterprise and accepting the Catholic Church and the monarchy as institutions in Italy.

To appeal to Italian conservatives, Fascism adopted policies such as promoting family values, including policies designed to reduce the number of women in the workforce—limiting the woman's role to that of a mother. The Fascists banned literature on birth control and increased penalties for abortion in 1926, declaring both crimes against the state.

Although Fascism adopted a number of anti-modern positions designed to appeal to people upset with the new trends in sexuality and women's rights—especially those with a reactionary point of view—the Fascists sought to maintain Fascism's revolutionary character, with Angelo Oliviero Olivetti saying: "Fascism would like to be conservative, but it will [be] by being revolutionary."

The Fascists supported revolutionary action and committed to secure law and order to appeal to both conservatives and syndicalists.

That destroys your narrative that Fascism is "right wing," doesn't it?

 

[Burgermeister]

We have both going on right now and I don't like either.

 

[Smokin' OP]

That destroys your narrative that Fascism is "right wing," doesn't it?

Not at all.

Fascism adopted policies such as promoting family values, including policies designed to reduce the number of women in the workforce—limiting the woman's role to that of a mother. The Fascists banned literature on birth control and increased penalties for abortion in 1926, declaring both crimes against the state.

Fascism adopted a number of anti-modern positions designed to appeal to people upset with the new trends in sexuality and women's rights—especially those with a reactionary point of view—the Fascists sought to maintain Fascism's revolutionary character, with Angelo Oliviero Olivetti saying: "Fascism would like to be conservative, but it will [be] by being revolutionary."

Sounds just like Trumptards today with a few tweeks.

 

[bripat9643]

Not at all.

Fascism adopted policies such as promoting family values, including policies designed to reduce the number of women in the workforce—limiting the woman's role to that of a mother. The Fascists banned literature on birth control and increased penalties for abortion in 1926, declaring both crimes against the state.

Fascism adopted a number of anti-modern positions designed to appeal to people upset with the new trends in sexuality and women's rights—especially those with a reactionary point of view—the Fascists sought to maintain Fascism's revolutionary character, with Angelo Oliviero Olivetti saying: "Fascism would like to be conservative, but it will [be] by being revolutionary."

Sounds just like Trumptards today with a few tweeks.

How are they "anti-modern" other than that fact that you don't agree with them?

The criteria that determines whether you are right wing of lesswing it the degree to which you support socialism. How does reducing the number of women in the workforce have anything to do with "fascism?" In fact, it's a left wing policy because those on the right are opposed to government interference in the economy, which is what that is. Leftwing turds like you like to bring in extraneou issues because you know you can't define Fascism as "right-wing" any other way. Even the author you quoted admits that fascism isn't right-wing.

 

[dblack]

Not necessarily. They can be purely democratic. And still be overbearing, totalitarian regimes.

Apparently, for some of you, this is shocking to consider - inconceivable even. There is a myth, common among leftists, that democracy can do no evil. For some reason they believe that the majority is incapable of making a bad decision or supporting bad government.

 

[Oddball]

Apparently, for some of you, this is shocking to consider - inconceivable even. There is a myth, common among leftists, that democracy can do no evil. For some reason they don't believe that the majority is incapable of making a bad decision or supporting bad government.

Only if it's not a majority held by their team.....Then they sanctimoniously twaddle on about the "rights of the minority"

 

[francoHFW]

Not necessarily. They can be purely democratic. And still be overbearing, totalitarian regimes.

They are both unDemocratic by definition. Whether they are a fascist strong man corporate swine like Hitler or a communist dictatorship of the proletariat which always ends up being the same thing.... Socialism is the compromise that ends up being the best solution. Ask any socialist, not communist!!! Basically that is a democracy with a living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap collagen training and taxing the rich for crying out loud. Only English speaking conflation of socialism and communism keeps us in this unfair GOP mess. Because free stuff communism and freedom my ass. No sacrifice is too great to save the greedy idiot GOP rich from paying their fair share. Change the goddamn channel. Every modern country but us is socialist. Even if the English speaking ones don't know it.

 

[dblack]

They are both unDemocratic by definition.

Not according to the hardcore Marxists I talk to. In fact, they insist that regimes like the USSR and China were never truly communist because they weren't democratic.

Ask any socialist, not communist!!!

I've been around the block with you and all your "very special" definitions. Get yourself a good dictionary and we'll talk.