Zone1 False religion is not from God.. who knew?

[hadit]

Wow i didn't know you were a school child of 10 who resorts to name calling when they have 0 to answer to truth.
I didn't say the holy spirit wasn't in the bible prior to Constantine, i said in 381 ce= recorded history fact that the holy spirit was first time added to a godhead at that council. = No trinity God exists. All serving it are being mislead into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily and will not enter Gods kingdom.

Yet the Spirit is present at creation, in Genesis.

 

[Cougarbear]

Christian. .. traditional... Episcopalian.

With a little Islam thrown in there.

 

[Cougarbear]

I was commenting on an issue of comparative religion.
That of surada and islam are very compatible. Both
are EMPIRE based-----tyranny is common to both

Episcopalians are tyranny based?

 

[irosie91]

With a little Islam thrown in there.

Compatible, virtually espoused

 

[Cougarbear]

"Could" and "Did" are very different things. So again, the question arises, why are you making such a big deal out of something that Jesus said was none of your business? I have no problem if Jesus wanted to keep John alive, but also see no need to build a whole new theology out of the invention needed to have him alive but not accessible to anyone.

Really bad try. If you aren’t able to logically reason something as simple as I presented then no reason for you to claim you have studied anything. John is the only possibility.

 

[hadit]

Really bad try. If you aren’t able to logically reason something as simple as I presented then no reason for you to claim you have studied anything. John is the only possibility.

Jesus never said ANYONE was going to live forever. THAT is the only possibility.

 

[WinterBorn]

I would read this but there is this pesky little FACT

You are malicious toward anyone who anyone disagrees w/ you

so there's that

And you are, of course, gracious and cordial when someone disagrees with you?

 

[irosie91]

I'm asking you because you made the claim, so it's on you to back it up. "Google it" is not an answer. I believe you said it with no idea whether it's really true or not.

You believe you have that while I believe you do not, that's the reality. Since J Smith made predictions that didn't come true, I'm not going to hang my hat on the other things he said.

John is dead and Jesus is coming back, not John. At that time, John's body will be resurrected along with bodies of the other believers who rest in the Lord. That's Biblical, what you're saying is not.

for the record----as far as I know---there are some sophists who
decided that John the mikveh man was an incarnation of
Elijah who "FLEW TO HEAVEN IN A CHARIOT" and legend has
it that HE would herald the "messiah"----thus the cousin of Jesus,
John, mikveh man is ELIJAH. For better information, ask Ezra

 

[Cougarbear]

Jesus never said ANYONE was going to live forever. THAT is the only possibility.

That’s what the Bible says in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” Stop lying.

 

[hadit]

That’s what the Bible says in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” Stop lying.

No, that's not what it says. It says they would not taste death until they saw the Kingdom, and we can live in His Kingdom now. AND, you cannot in any way shape or form tell me that they name John as being immortal. In fact, Jesus said it was none of your business, so why do you continue to make it yours? It's not.

 

[Cougarbear]

No, that's not what it says. It says they would not taste death until they saw the Kingdom, and we can live in His Kingdom now. AND, you cannot in any way shape or form tell me that they name John as being immortal. In fact, Jesus said it was none of your business, so why do you continue to make it yours? It's not.

It doesn’t say that and you know it. It says someone or some will not die UNTIL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN…not the kningom. The 2nd Coming of the Son. Are you cross eyed?

 

[Meriweather]

That’s what the Bible says in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” Stop lying.

It's not lying. Christians have different perspectives about a number of things. The The Transfiguration immediately follows this statement of Matthew's. Jesus' kingdom did not begin with New Testament figures; it already existed in thousands of years before with Moses and Elijah. The Transfiguration is Peter, James, and John seeing Jesus coming in his Kingdom. (Keep in mind scripture was not divided into chapters until 1200 years later, in the thirteenth century, so in Matthew's mind, this statement may have been an introduction to The Transfiguration.)

Others see it as Jesus' presence--and therefore his kingdom--coming into the lives of the many who never personally knew Jesus during his lifetime. Therefore, many would not see death until they saw the Son of Man coming in his kingdom into the personal lives of others, and into the life of entire communities.

Others

It doesn’t say that and you know it. It says someone or some will not die UNTIL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN…not the kningom. The 2nd Coming of the Son. Are you cross eyed?

Matthew 16 came before the resurrection (Chapter 28). Many did see Jesus coming back into his earthly kingdom after the resurrection.

 

[Cougarbear]

Yet the Spirit is present at creation, in Genesis.

Yep! I also shared that with JW and she tried to dodge it.

 

[hadit]

It's not lying. Christians have different perspectives about a number of things. The The Transfiguration immediately follows this statement of Matthew's. Jesus' kingdom did not begin with New Testament figures; it already existed in thousands of years before with Moses and Elijah. The Transfiguration is Peter, James, and John seeing Jesus coming in his Kingdom. (Keep in mind scripture was not divided into chapters until 1200 years later, in the thirteenth century, so in Matthew's mind, this statement may have been an introduction to The Transfiguration.)

Others see it as Jesus' presence--and therefore his kingdom--coming into the lives of the many who never personally knew Jesus during his lifetime. Therefore, many would not see death until they saw the Son of Man coming in his kingdom into the personal lives of others, and into the life of entire communities.

Others

Matthew 16 came before the resurrection (Chapter 28). Many did see Jesus coming back into his earthly kingdom after the resurrection.

Also to be remembered is Daniel 7:13-14, where we see the Son of Man receiving His kingdom in heaven, which would have occurred after His ascension. Jesus would have known very well about that vision.

 

[AHZ]

So yeh, there are an awful lot of religions in the world!

Many of them claim to be Christian.

And they do talk about Jesus here and there in those communities. The Original Church calls them ecclessial communities, NOT Churches. There is only ONE Church. Try to find some fault with THAT teaching, namely there is only ONE Church.. Did God estaablish thousands of Churches? No, God only established one. He didn't need more than one. People need or think they need more than one... house, car... whatever.. but no, only one house or car is needed.. (most of the time).

Anyhow, yeh, people argue w/ the RCC about how it claim to be the Original

But they never say which one is the real Original... or if they do, they can be proven wrong immediately, but even then, even when proven wrong by historical facts..

they don't like or accept the real Original. Well, Jesus did say that "you will be hated by all because of [Him]"

catholicism isn't it.

 

[Meriweather]

catholicism isn't it.

What/who eliminated it? Which denomination do you believe is it? Why?

 

[Cougarbear]

It's not lying. Christians have different perspectives about a number of things. The The Transfiguration immediately follows this statement of Matthew's. Jesus' kingdom did not begin with New Testament figures; it already existed in thousands of years before with Moses and Elijah. The Transfiguration is Peter, James, and John seeing Jesus coming in his Kingdom. (Keep in mind scripture was not divided into chapters until 1200 years later, in the thirteenth century, so in Matthew's mind, this statement may have been an introduction to The Transfiguration.)

Others see it as Jesus' presence--and therefore his kingdom--coming into the lives of the many who never personally knew Jesus during his lifetime. Therefore, many would not see death until they saw the Son of Man coming in his kingdom into the personal lives of others, and into the life of entire communities.

Others

Matthew 16 came before the resurrection (Chapter 28). Many did see Jesus coming back into his earthly kingdom after the resurrection.

Doesn’t matter. Of course Jesus would come back and receive his kingdom after his resurrection. That is the 2nd Coming. And, there will be some on earth that will not taste death including John and the 3 Nephites in the Book of Mormon. He keeps lying about the visible words. And you go off on a Catholic tangent.

 

[Meriweather]

Doesn’t matter. Of course Jesus would come back and receive his kingdom after his resurrection. That is the 2nd Coming. And, there will be some on earth that will not taste death including John and the 3 Nephites in the Book of Mormon. He keeps lying about the visible words. And you go off on a Catholic tangent.

Or...perhaps it is taking something that was taken off tangent and realigning it with what the authors' intended. Lifting verses from Matthew Chapter 16 and repositioning those verses to what is being presented eight chapters later makes your intent known, but at the loss of the intent of the original author's.

 

[kjw47]

Again, slow mental capacity of JWs. Let’s all read these 4 words of Genesis 1:2, …”The Spirit of God…” the spirit is of God. The Trinity. Good grief. Language is the 2nd language of the mute JWs.

I see nothing about a trinity in that passage. It doesn't say the spirit is God.
Isaiah 44:6- This is what Jehovah says, The King of Israel, and his repurchaser, Jehovah of armies( hosts) I( not we) am the first and the last. There is no God but me( not we)

 

[kjw47]

Lol Jehovah's Witnesses fighting with Mormons? What a hoot.

I don't fight, i state facts. The darkness fights against facts.