Zone1 False religion is not from God.. who knew?

[kjw47]

Yet the Spirit is present at creation, in Genesis.

Yes, Gods active force.

 

[Cougarbear]

Or...perhaps it is taking something that was taken off tangent and realigning it with what the authors' intended. Lifting verses from Matthew Chapter 16 and repositioning those verses to what is being presented eight chapters later makes your intent known, but at the loss of the intent of the original author's.

Now you are a mind reader. The event was in all 4 of the gospels. No need to read anything into the words. It’s just you and others don’t want to believe John could be given immortality. Shows you really don’t believe any member of the Godhead (Trinity) can do miracles.

 

[Cougarbear]

I see nothing about a trinity in that passage. It doesn't say the spirit is God.
Isaiah 44:6- This is what Jehovah says, The King of Israel, and his repurchaser, Jehovah of armies( hosts) I( not we) am the first and the last. There is no God but me( not we)

That’s not the question. The spirit of God or Holy Ghost is mentioned in the Bible. Admit it. Also, do you know what a preposition is?

 

[Meriweather]

Now you are a mind reader. The event was in all 4 of the gospels. No need to read anything into the words. It’s just you and others don’t want to believe John could be given immortality. Shows you really don’t believe any member of the Godhead (Trinity) can do miracles.

It merely shows two different perspectives. One is from the original authors and early first century Christians. The other comes from the perspective of nineteen hundred years later from latter day saints. Your perspective doesn't bother or concern me, but I am sorry my perspective triggers insults from you.

 

[kjw47]

That’s not the question. The spirit of God or Holy Ghost is mentioned in the Bible. Admit it. Also, do you know what a preposition is?

Every one knows the holy spirit is mentioned= Gods active force= No name like the Father and son have, Never seen on a throne like the Father and son are. Never mentioned as a king as the Father and son are, No glory or honor shared with the holy spirit, only to the son from the Father. Catholicisms own encyclopedia says-In the majority of writings about the holy spirit in the bible its not as a living being.

 

[hadit]

Yes, Gods active force.

The third person of the triune God.

 

[luiza]

False religion is not from God.​

But only God could truly know that .

Good job that the Gullible Sheeple are realising the stupidity of the core idea that we are separate from Universal Energy .

 

[Cougarbear]

It merely shows two different perspectives. One is from the original authors and early first century Christians. The other comes from the perspective of nineteen hundred years later from latter day saints. Your perspective doesn't bother or concern me, but I am sorry my perspective triggers insults from you.

It isn’t me denying miracles such as immortality until his 2nd coming. You are doing that. Just like Hadit. You come to the glory of Fod but deny the power thereof. I don’t. The words are clear. Some won’t die anciently until the 2nd Coming. But, I’m catching a drift that you don’t believe Christ will come again. I’m I correct?

 

[Cougarbear]

Every one knows the holy spirit is mentioned= Gods active force= No name like the Father and son have, Never seen on a throne like the Father and son are. Never mentioned as a king as the Father and son are, No glory or honor shared with the holy spirit, only to the son from the Father. Catholicisms own encyclopedia says-In the majority of writings about the holy spirit in the bible its not as a living being.

There is more to the Holy Ghost that you will never know. But that wasn’t ever the point. You said there was no mention of the Holy Spirit in the Bible. You were wrong as you were wrong about the exact day of the end of the world. Pathetic.

 

[Meriweather]

But, I’m catching a drift that you don’t believe Christ will come again. I’m I correct?

Why even think to ask such a thing.

 

[Cougarbear]

Why even think to ask such a thing.

Because you can’t answer

 

[Meriweather]

Because you can’t answer

When someone begins with a premise that is clearly wrong, I'm not going to waste time backtracking him back into reality.

 

[kjw47]

There is more to the Holy Ghost that you will never know. But that wasn’t ever the point. You said there was no mention of the Holy Spirit in the Bible. You were wrong as you were wrong about the exact day of the end of the world. Pathetic.

I never said the holy spirit wasn't mentioned. Don't be a deceiver.

 

[Cougarbear]

When someone begins with a premise that is clearly wrong, I'm not going to waste time backtracking him back into reality.

Didn’t answer again. What do you have to hide?

 

[Cougarbear]

I never said the holy spirit wasn't mentioned. Don't be a deceiver.

Here is what you stated that the Holy Spirit didn’t exist in the Bible until 381AD. “No trinity exists=your god. Every scholar on earth knows 100% the holy spirit was added to a godhead in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople=100%
And you were wrong. I’m not the only one pointing out there are many, many times the Holy Spirit is mentioned in the Bible.

 

[Stryder50]

Here on Earth, just about every "Religion" was given to humans by the Anunnaki. Population control systems of sorts to reduce the need for any "occupation forces".
Granted a few minor ones may have been invented by humans.

Now if you grasp that the whole Cosmos is product of an Intelligent Designer, than that entity could be the source, ultimately

 

[Ace Nova]

Here on Earth, just about every "Religion" was given to humans by the Anunnaki. Population control systems of sorts to reduce the need for any "occupation forces".
Granted a few minor ones may have been invented by humans.

Now if you grasp that the whole Cosmos is product of an Intelligent Designer, than that entity could be the source, ultimately

Not quite.

"Organized religion" with rituals, priests, traditions - "seemed" to begin with the dawn civilization - with oral tradition and writing being a catalyst of us "knowing about them" in modern times. But in reality, they date back MUCH further than known ancient civilizations.

Although it is believed that the Sumerian Civilization may date as far back as 4000 BC - the earliest historical records only date back to around 2900-3000 BC - which also coincides with early historical records of Ancient Egypt.

There are direct links from The Sumerian Religion to the Akkadians to the Babylonians, Hurrians and so forth.

Ancient Egyptian Religion dates as far back as 4000 BC (Likely longer):

Ancient Egyptian religion, indigenous beliefs of ancient Egypt from predynastic times (4th millennium BCE) to the disappearance of the traditional culture in the first centuries CE.

Ancient Egyptian religion | History, Rituals, Gods, Beliefs, & Facts | Britannica

Ancient Egyptian religion, indigenous beliefs of ancient Egypt from predynastic times (4th millennium BCE) to its decline in the first centuries CE. With tombs dominating the archaeological record, it is especially known for its treatment of the dead. Its deities included Anubis, Isis, Osiris...

www.britannica.com

In terms of "religious practices":

Religious practices in prehistory​

Middle Paleolithic (200,000 BC – 50,000 BC)​

• 100,000 BC: Earliest known human burial in the Middle East.
• 78,000 BC – 74,000 BC: Earliest known Homo sapiens burial of a child in Panga ya Saidi, East Africa.
• 70,000 BC – 35,000 BC: Neanderthal burials take place in areas of Europe and the Middle East.

The timeline continues with discoveries of ceremonial "offerings" at grave sites from 70,000 BC all the way to around 10,000 BC.

After 10,000 BC we begin to find evidence of actual "organized religious practices/ worship":

10th to 6th millennium BC​

• 10,000 BC – 8,000 BC: The Baghor stone from presumably one of the oldest Shakti shrines in India, and one of the oldest sites of worship yet discovered in the world, is estimated to have been formed during this period (9000-8000 BC). However, it may predate 10,000 BC as samples were dated to 11,870 (± 120) YBP in a 1983 publication.[11] The living shrine at which it was found is currently used as a place for worshipping Devi by both Hindus and Indian Muslims. The triangular shape of the stone is that of the Kali Yantra which is also still in use across India. The Kol and Baiga tribes consider the triangular shape to symbolize the mother goddess 'Mai', variously named Kerai, Kari, Kali, Kalika or Karika.[12]
• 9130 BC – 7370 BC: This was the apparent period of use of Göbekli Tepe, one of the oldest human-made sites of worship yet discovered; evidence of similar usage has also been found in another nearby site, Nevalı Çori.[13]
• 7500 BC – 5700 BC: The settlements of Çatalhöyük developed as a likely spiritual center of Anatolia. Possibly practicing worship in communal shrines, its inhabitants left behind numerous clay figurines and impressions of phallic, feminine, and hunting scenes.[citation needed]
• 7250 BC – 6500 BC: The ʿAin Ghazal statues were made in Jordan during the Neolithic.[14] These statues were argued to have been gods, legendary leaders, or other figures of power. They were suggested to have been a representation of a fusion of previously separate communities by Gary O. Rollefson.

Timeline of religion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Stryder50]

Not quite.

"Organized religion" with rituals, priests, traditions - "seemed" to begin with the dawn civilization - with oral tradition and writing being a catalyst of us "knowing about them" in modern times. But in reality, they date back MUCH further than known ancient civilizations.

Although it is believed that the Sumerian Civilization may date as far back as 4000 BC - the earliest historical records only date back to around 2900-3000 BC - which also coincides with early historical records of Ancient Egypt.

There are direct links from The Sumerian Religion to the Akkadians to the Babylonians, Hurrians and so forth.

Ancient Egyptian Religion dates as far back as 4000 BC (Likely longer):

Ancient Egyptian religion, indigenous beliefs of ancient Egypt from predynastic times (4th millennium BCE) to the disappearance of the traditional culture in the first centuries CE.

Ancient Egyptian religion | History, Rituals, Gods, Beliefs, & Facts | Britannica

Ancient Egyptian religion, indigenous beliefs of ancient Egypt from predynastic times (4th millennium BCE) to its decline in the first centuries CE. With tombs dominating the archaeological record, it is especially known for its treatment of the dead. Its deities included Anubis, Isis, Osiris...

www.britannica.com

In terms of "religious practices":

Religious practices in prehistory​

Middle Paleolithic (200,000 BC – 50,000 BC)​

• 100,000 BC: Earliest known human burial in the Middle East.
• 78,000 BC – 74,000 BC: Earliest known Homo sapiens burial of a child in Panga ya Saidi, East Africa.
• 70,000 BC – 35,000 BC: Neanderthal burials take place in areas of Europe and the Middle East.

The timeline continues with discoveries of ceremonial "offerings" at grave sites from 70,000 BC all the way to around 10,000 BC.

After 10,000 BC we begin to find evidence of actual "organized religious practices/ worship":

10th to 6th millennium BC​

• 10,000 BC – 8,000 BC: The Baghor stone from presumably one of the oldest Shakti shrines in India, and one of the oldest sites of worship yet discovered in the world, is estimated to have been formed during this period (9000-8000 BC). However, it may predate 10,000 BC as samples were dated to 11,870 (± 120) YBP in a 1983 publication.[11] The living shrine at which it was found is currently used as a place for worshipping Devi by both Hindus and Indian Muslims. The triangular shape of the stone is that of the Kali Yantra which is also still in use across India. The Kol and Baiga tribes consider the triangular shape to symbolize the mother goddess 'Mai', variously named Kerai, Kari, Kali, Kalika or Karika.[12]
• 9130 BC – 7370 BC: This was the apparent period of use of Göbekli Tepe, one of the oldest human-made sites of worship yet discovered; evidence of similar usage has also been found in another nearby site, Nevalı Çori.[13]
• 7500 BC – 5700 BC: The settlements of Çatalhöyük developed as a likely spiritual center of Anatolia. Possibly practicing worship in communal shrines, its inhabitants left behind numerous clay figurines and impressions of phallic, feminine, and hunting scenes.[citation needed]
• 7250 BC – 6500 BC: The ʿAin Ghazal statues were made in Jordan during the Neolithic.[14] These statues were argued to have been gods, legendary leaders, or other figures of power. They were suggested to have been a representation of a fusion of previously separate communities by Gary O. Rollefson.

Timeline of religion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sorry lad, but ...
... that old adage of "ain't no body here but us humans."
is a bit in error.

The Anunnaki I refer to were the REAL ET's that came and settled in the Solar System at least 500,000+ years ago and who had a need to modify a local branch of simians to be genetically compatible with them for interbreeding purposes. The passage in Genesis: 6:1-6 about the sons of Gawd taking human wives is a garbled metaphor for what really happened.

The main modification was to change homo chromosomes into a 23 number from the 24 number common to other simians closely related to homo sapiens sapiens. And some other adjustments within some of the genes themselves. This all took place close to 300,000 years ago, shortly after the Anunnaki home planet was devastated by a super nova event, which resulted in the star Geminga Pulsar. With home planet and a few others nearby largely wiped of life, the colonists here needed to rebuild their species and widen their gene pool. fortunate for them earlier versions of homos were available to work with.

The "new" species was living "in the wild" at first so to facilitate monitoring and possible genetic tweaks, and steered breeding, the REALLY early versions of religion, the "Earth/Mother Goddess" sorts were used to provide a mechanism for contact. The rest is History.

Further details in this thread;
The Geminga Scenario

 

[ding]

Sorry lad, but ...
... that old adage of "ain't no body here but us humans."
is a bit in error.

The Anunnaki I refer to were the REAL ET's that came and settled in the Solar System at least 500,000+ years ago and who had a need to modify a local branch of simians to be genetically compatible with them for interbreeding purposes. The passage in Genesis: 6:1-6 about the sons of Gawd taking human wives is a garbled metaphor for what really happened.

The main modification was to change homo chromosomes into a 23 number from the 24 number common to other simians closely related to homo sapiens sapiens. And some other adjustments within some of the genes themselves. This all took place close to 300,000 years ago, shortly after the Anunnaki home planet was devastated by a super nova event, which resulted in the star Geminga Pulsar. With home planet and a few others nearby largely wiped of life, the colonists here needed to rebuild their species and widen their gene pool. fortunate for them earlier versions of homos were available to work with.

The "new" species was living "in the wild" at first so to facilitate monitoring and possible genetic tweaks, and steered breeding, the REALLY early versions of religion, the "Earth/Mother Goddess" sorts were used to provide a mechanism for contact. The rest is History.

Further details in this thread;
The Geminga Scenario

How did the aliens come into being?

 

[Stryder50]

How did the aliens come into being?

We can only guess, to a certain degree.*

Logical deduction would suggest the same way as everything else in the Cosmos;

A Creative Being(Entity)/Intelligent Designer that made everything out of It's own substance.

A subtext, or subtheme, would be that Christ's message to effect of 'Love/Treat Other's as Yourself' is another way to say that Everything in the Cosmos/Universe is an expression (made from) of the Oneness=Intelligent Designer Creator.

* I think I can guess what your implication here is. It's a familiar canard.

In context of what I've presented above, and in my earlier post, and as presented in more detail in the thread I linked to; Humankind's predecessors, earlier hominid~Homo 'Whatis' was indigenous to this planet and on it's own, slow evolutionary track. What the Anunnaki did was to accelerate that evolutionary track and do some added genetic modification. Gave a jump-start of sort to the earlier version of humans into what our species is today.

When their Home World and other nearby worlds of the core for their interstellar civilization were blasted and fried by the Super Nova of Geminga, tens(hundreds?) of billions of life-incarnation (karma) cycles were suddenly and abruptly cut short = stopped. Interfering with and accelerating the evolution of earlier Homos on this planet provided the replacement biological hosts for souls stuck in a "limbo" of sorts, to renew (pick-up where left off) their (re-)incarnation cycles of spiritual growth for their souls. Modified and accelerated evolution homo sapiens sapiens provided new host bodies for those lost in the super nova disaster, allowed a continuity restart.