Zone1 False religion is not from God.. who knew?

[surada]

According to a 2017 NPR report, Jehovah's Witnesses have lower levels of formal education than other major religious groups in the United States. Pew Research Center data shows that only 9% of Jehovah's Witnesses have an undergraduate degree, which is much lower than the national average of 30.4%. This low rate of education can have negative consequences for Jehovah's Witnesses, including higher unemployment and lower earnings. Some say that a lack of motivation to participate in education can stem from the belief that higher education is spiritually dangerous or that people should avoid the "deceptive power of riches".

 

[ding]

the "deceptive power of riches"

It all depends upon if one worships the creator instead of the created.

 

[forkintheroad7]

According to a 2017 NPR report, Jehovah's Witnesses have lower levels of formal education than other major religious groups in the United States. Pew Research Center data shows that only 9% of Jehovah's Witnesses have an undergraduate degree, which is much lower than the national average of 30.4%. This low rate of education can have negative consequences for Jehovah's Witnesses, including higher unemployment and lower earnings. Some say that a lack of motivation to participate in education can stem from the belief that higher education is spiritually dangerous or that people should avoid the "deceptive power of riches".

Education, esp these days is highly over-rated. Ever heard the term: educated idiot?

so apt these days

 

[forkintheroad7]

I get an education every time I sit in the Church when only Jesus is there. OK, maybe another person or 2 wouldn't make a big difference, but I used to be totally alone sometimes in the Real Presence and it was awesome, having Jesus all to myself..

Talk about an education..

nothing like what colleges are doing these days!

 

[Cougarbear]

Episcopalian.

Apparently the same thing...

 

[Clyde 154]

So yeh, there are an awful lot of religions in the world!

Many of them claim to be Christian.

And they do talk about Jesus here and there in those communities. The Original Church calls them ecclessial communities, NOT Churches. There is only ONE Church. Try to find some fault with THAT teaching, namely there is only ONE Church.. Did God estaablish thousands of Churches? No, God only established one. He didn't need more than one. People need or think they need more than one... house, car... whatever.. but no, only one house or car is needed.. (most of the time).

Anyhow, yeh, people argue w/ the RCC about how it claim to be the Original

But they never say which one is the real Original... or if they do, they can be proven wrong immediately, but even then, even when proven wrong by historical facts..

they don't like or accept the real Original. Well, Jesus did say that "you will be hated by all because of [Him]"

The ONE TRUE "ORGINAL" CHURCH of CHRIST is easily located. Its located within the pages of the Holy Bible.....the Holy Scriptures "All Scripture is breathed out by God, and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be PERFECT/WHOLE/COMPLETE.......in doctrine, not life as no man is perfect. (teleios in the original Greek, the universal language of the 1st century, the language often used by Jesus Christ Himself)....." -- 2 Tim 3:16-17.

The blue print for the one true original church is easily located........just open the Holy Bible.

The One True Original Church is not ruled by or constructed by a POPE/APOSTLE.....the church belongs to the one that built it as the chief cornerstone (Jesus Christ-- Eph. 2:20-22).......that stone being the truth that Jesus Christ is the one and only Son of the Living God (Matt. 16), Jesus is that stone, not Peter as the 1st supposed POPE that can be found anywhere in scripture.........words that God breathed out, just as Original Sin can't be found in the words God breathed out..........nor are there any words breathed out by God that commands anyone to pray to and worship Mary as the Mother of God..........

The One True Church should not bear the name of a Nation ruled in a Military style organization....ROME, Christ is its head........if you insist upon naming the True Original Church, that name should be Jesus Christ. What? Should the true original church have a head or leadership in the image of a man or the Son of God who sits on the throne in heaven beside the Father?

 

[forkintheroad7]

I'm tired of this Bible alone nonsense.

The Bible was put together by.. what? whom? The Catholic Church in the 4th century. Everyone these days goes on about Scripture (great) but forgets/abandons the Church that gave us scripture (the New T)

That doesn't make one bit of sense

Jesus did NOT.. repeat.. did NOT say that the Bible was to be our Church (go ahead and try to find where He said that in scripture)

He said that he would build His Church, though..

and there is NO Church that goes back in history further than the Catholic Church.

So any purported "church" that comes along after the first century cannot be trusted as being the one Christ founded. That seems logical enough

But few believe it. And Jesus said that

FEW

find the Narrow Way to Heaven.

So.. something you'd think people would be concerned about..

 

[Clyde 154]

I'm tired of this Bible alone nonsense.

The Bible was put together by.. what? whom? The Catholic Church in the 4th century. Everyone these days goes on about Scripture (great) but forgets/abandons the Church that gave us scripture (the New T)

That doesn't make one bit of sense

Jesus did NOT.. repeat.. did NOT say that the Bible was to be our Church (go ahead and try to find where He said that in scripture)

He said that he would build His Church, though..

and there is NO Church that goes back in history further than the Catholic Church.

So any purported "church" that comes along after the first century cannot be trusted as being the one Christ founded. That seems logical enough

But few believe it. And Jesus said that

FEW

find the Narrow Way to Heaven.

So.. something you'd think people would be concerned about..

Really? I would ***** also if the Holy Scriptures contradicted the doctrine I was attempting to justify. Reality........the RCC doctrine was not "codified" until around AD 325......with the 1st Pope not existing until an election around AD 606

The "foundation of the church that Christ built" came into existence in AD 33.......the church is not constructed/founded upon any POPE. "For other foundation can NO MAN lay than that is laid, WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST." -- 1 Cor. 3:11. Peter was not the foundation of the church......the rock/stone upon which the Church was constructed is Jesus Christ.

Its easy to see that the church has existed since the 1st century because of the record left by the Apostles of Christ.......stating very clearly that Jesus Christ was the chief cornerstone upon which the church exists today (not by a Papal decree). "........and are built upon the foundation of the Apostles and the prophets (all the apostles, not just Peter as some pope), JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF BEING THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE." -- Eph. 2:20

Rome is compared to the "Whore of Babylon" in the book of Revelation. Chapters 16-18

 

[forkintheroad7]

Really? I would ***** also if the Holy Scriptures contradicted the doctrine I was attempting to justify. Reality........the RCC doctrine was not "codified" until around AD 325......with the 1st Pope not existing until an election around AD 606

You can believe what you want. I'm not arguing w/ protesters anymore, to speak of

You can believe whatever suits your fancy

and I will believe what God wants people to believe (not what I or some other human chooses to believe)

 

[forkintheroad7]

lol. They say it all the time. You just don't like the facts.
The historical facts:
Peter started the first church in Jerusalem.
Peter did not start the Catholic Church.

As the saying goes

You are entitled to your OPINION

but not your own FACTS

Keep believing lies. They may lead you to Hell

And Jesus says most end up there... Mt 7, Lk 13

 

[Clyde 154]

You can believe what you want. I'm not arguing w/ protesters anymore, to speak of

You can believe whatever suits your fancy

and I will believe what God wants people to believe (not what I or some other human chooses to believe)

I actually believe WHAT IS WRITTEN........and I do not believe in going beyond the written word. "I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for you benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us (the apostles and prophets) NOT TO GO BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, THAT NONE OF YOU BE PUFFED UP........" -- 1 Cor. 4:6

Do I sense a little PUFFINESS in your attitude?

 

[The Irish Ram]

As the saying goes

You are entitled to your OPINION

but not your own FACTS

Keep believing lies. They may lead you to Hell

And Jesus says most end up there... Mt 7, Lk 13

Acts 2:41 Those who believed what Peter said were baptized and added to the church that day—about 3,000 in all.
^
10 days after Christ ascended. In Jerusalem. Peter preached there for 15 years before he was arrested. The Catholic church didn't exist for another 300 years.

Why do you believe the Bible lies? What else do you think the Bible lies about?

 

[forkintheroad7]

Acts 2:41 Those who believed what Peter said were baptized and added to the church that day—about 3,000 in all.
^
10 days after Christ ascended. In Jerusalem. Peter preached there for 15 years before he was arrested. The Catholic church didn't exist for another 300 years.

Why do you believe the Bible lies? What else do you think the Bible lies about?

why do you keep throwing your beliefs at me? You don't listen to me and i don't listen to you.

What is it you hope to accomplish? I will NEVER EVER give up the Catholic faith. NEVER (not speaking about he Vatican sect, but the REAL Catholic faith)

got it?

so please, save yourself the trouble..

 

[forkintheroad7]

I actually believe WHAT IS WRITTEN........and I do not believe in going beyond the written word. "I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for you benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us (the apostles and prophets) NOT TO GO BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, THAT NONE OF YOU BE PUFFED UP........" -- 1 Cor. 4:6

Do I sense a little PUFFINESS in your attitude?

Just drop it. Like i said to someone else here

You don't listen to me and I don't listen to you. I will NEVER give up the Catholic faith. So there is just NO point in discussing (if that's what you call it)

anything, to speak of anymore.. I am tired of arguments and malice and accusations

 

[The Irish Ram]

why do you keep throwing your beliefs at me? You don't listen to me and i don't listen to you.

What is it you hope to accomplish? I will NEVER EVER give up the Catholic faith. NEVER (not speaking about he Vatican sect, but the REAL Catholic faith)

got it?

so please, save yourself the trouble..

Stop with the false dogma. You have no idea what faith I am. I refer to the Bible to check what is true and what is false and leave personalities out of it because:
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

And you continue to push false doctrine on the people here. No one is asking you to give up your faith. Checking your beliefs to see if the coincide with scripture is something every Christian should do. Would you be less of a Christian if you believed Timothy?

 

[forkintheroad7]

Stop with the false dogma.

how arrogant.

You don't even question that it may be YOU who has false dogma.

Well, again, there is no discussion to be had. You don't listen to me and I most assuredly am not going to listen to anyone who doesn't even know anything, much less appreciate anything about the Catholic faith.. yet rambles on incessantly about how wrong it is.

 

[The Irish Ram]

how arrogant.

You don't even question that it may be YOU who has false dogma.

Well, again, there is no discussion to be had. You don't listen to me and I most assuredly am not going to listen to anyone who doesn't even know anything, much less appreciate anything about the Catholic faith.. yet rambles on incessantly about how wrong it is.

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No, I don't question it. I do not tell you what the Baptists say, or what the Presbyterians say. I quote the Bible. What you aren't listening to is scripture. That is how arrogant your posts are.

 

[Clyde 154]

Just drop it. Like i said to someone else here

You don't listen to me and I don't listen to you. I will NEVER give up the Catholic faith. So there is just NO point in discussing (if that's what you call it)

anything, to speak of anymore.. I am tired of arguments and malice and accusations

Of course........Just drop it? That's the problem with false doctrines...........you can't document your doctrine within the revelations of the Holy Scriptures. The scriptures are to be used by all Christians to defend their faith, the Holy Scriptures are documented as being the "SWORD OF THE HOLY SPIRIT".

"..........and take on the helmet of salvation, and the SWORD OF THE SPIRIT, WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD," -- Eph. 6:17 Its clear.........salvation comes through the Word of God, not from some Papal edict and RCC traditions from a man pretending to be God's mouth on earth.