Facts About Judaism

What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
I find it ironic that you would question anyone’s writing ability, Rosie.


"writing ability" was not the only issue in that much dreaded
English Comp. class. The problem that both you and the math
savant have/had is CONTENT
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
Genesis tells us, in part....

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation


so? you are calling that the "knowledge of ancient man" ?
Actually you are wrong. SOME of it is, very simply, the evolutionary
outcome of group survival HARDWIRED into the brain just like the
mating song of the cricket is hardwired.
Yes. Because they passed down knowledge of their surroundings, knowledge of their history and knowledge of their wisdom orally from generation to generation for thousands of years through these allegorical accounts.

nothing I mentioned is a product of evolution. Everything I mentioned is a product of observation and reasoning.
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
I find it ironic that you would question anyone’s writing ability, Rosie.


"writing ability" was not the only issue in that much dreaded
English Comp. class. The problem that both you and the math
savant have/had is CONTENT
If you could attack the content you would. But you aren’t. So you attack my writing skills instead.

and there’s nothing wrong with my writing skills. I’m actually quite good at articulating my thoughts in writing.
 
Notice how Rosie does not offer a competing interpretation.

That’s because she can’t.
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
Genesis tells us, in part....

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation


so? you are calling that the "knowledge of ancient man" ?
Actually you are wrong. SOME of it is, very simply, the evolutionary
outcome of group survival HARDWIRED into the brain just like the
mating song of the cricket is hardwired.
Yes. Because they passed down knowledge of their surroundings, knowledge of their history and knowledge of their wisdom orally from generation to generation for thousands of years through these allegorical accounts.

nothing I mentioned is a product of evolution. Everything I mentioned is a product of observation and reasoning.

wrong again------the brain gets hardwired to all kinds of behaviors
via evolution INCLUDING concepts of social behavior that include
such "human behaviors" as "sharing" "empathy" and EVEN APPARENT CEREMONIES and "concepts" of "JUSTICE" . ----
A "humanoid" does not need a STORY in order to engage in
procreation and protection of the young OR EVEN IN JEALOUSY.
The behaviors are hardwired via evolution. THE STORIES CAME
LATER. That such stories exist PLANET WIDE----does not prove a
common origin or "traditional tales" What it does indicate is the forces of HUMAN EVOLUTION OF THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM-------we all have temporal lobes and an amygdala, and even that elusive "sense of justice"
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
Genesis tells us, in part....

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation


so? you are calling that the "knowledge of ancient man" ?
Actually you are wrong. SOME of it is, very simply, the evolutionary
outcome of group survival HARDWIRED into the brain just like the
mating song of the cricket is hardwired.
Yes. Because they passed down knowledge of their surroundings, knowledge of their history and knowledge of their wisdom orally from generation to generation for thousands of years through these allegorical accounts.

nothing I mentioned is a product of evolution. Everything I mentioned is a product of observation and reasoning.

wrong again------the brain gets hardwired to all kinds of behaviors
via evolution INCLUDING concepts of social behavior that include
such "human behaviors" as "sharing" "empathy" and EVEN APPARENT CEREMONIES and "concepts" of "JUSTICE" . ----
A "humanoid" does not need a STORY in order to engage in
procreation and protection of the young OR EVEN IN JEALOUSY.
The behaviors are hardwired via evolution. THE STORIES CAME
LATER. That such stories exist PLANET WIDE----does not prove a
common origin or "traditional tales" What it does indicate is the forces of HUMAN EVOLUTION OF THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM-------we all have temporal lobes and an amygdala, and even that elusive "sense of justice"
No. The accounts came from observations. Observations of their surroundings and their behaviors. They recognized that the concept of good and evil was a uniquely human construct. That it is in effect a byproduct of intelligence. They recognized man’s preference for good. Such that when they failed to do good, rather than abandoning the concept they rationalized they had not done wrong.

The account of Genesis was not a single event, but was developed over thousands of years.

Why haven’t you provided your summary yet?

why haven’t you gone down each of my points and either agreed with it or disagreed with it.

Knowledge, information and wisdom are discovered through time like truth. They are not a product of evolution, they are a product of experiencing life and discovering the truth.
 
But the most important part of knowledge, information, wisdom and truth is passing it down so that they can be built upon.
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
Genesis tells us, in part....

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation


so? you are calling that the "knowledge of ancient man" ?
Actually you are wrong. SOME of it is, very simply, the evolutionary
outcome of group survival HARDWIRED into the brain just like the
mating song of the cricket is hardwired.
Yes. Because they passed down knowledge of their surroundings, knowledge of their history and knowledge of their wisdom orally from generation to generation for thousands of years through these allegorical accounts.

nothing I mentioned is a product of evolution. Everything I mentioned is a product of observation and reasoning.

wrong again------the brain gets hardwired to all kinds of behaviors
via evolution INCLUDING concepts of social behavior that include
such "human behaviors" as "sharing" "empathy" and EVEN APPARENT CEREMONIES and "concepts" of "JUSTICE" . ----
A "humanoid" does not need a STORY in order to engage in
procreation and protection of the young OR EVEN IN JEALOUSY.
The behaviors are hardwired via evolution. THE STORIES CAME
LATER. That such stories exist PLANET WIDE----does not prove a
common origin or "traditional tales" What it does indicate is the forces of HUMAN EVOLUTION OF THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM-------we all have temporal lobes and an amygdala, and even that elusive "sense of justice"
The evolution of the central nervous system was predestined through the laws of nature that existed before space and time. Rather than mind evolving as a late outgrowth of the evolution of space and time, mind has always existed as the source or matrix of the material world such that beings which can create and know would eventually arise.
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
I find it ironic that you would question anyone’s writing ability, Rosie.


"writing ability" was not the only issue in that much dreaded
English Comp. class. The problem that both you and the math
savant have/had is CONTENT
If you could attack the content you would. But you aren’t. So you attack my writing skills instead.

and there’s nothing wrong with my writing skills. I’m actually quite good at articulating my thoughts in writing.

wrong again-----it IS THE CONTENT which is faulty------be patient
But the most important part of knowledge, information, wisdom and truth is passing it down so that they can be built upon.


did you pass high school freshman biology?
 
Beings that know and create were predestined through the laws of nature because the material world is made from mind stuff. The material world is a contingent reality of the mind of God. It only exists because God willed it into existence.
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
I find it ironic that you would question anyone’s writing ability, Rosie.


"writing ability" was not the only issue in that much dreaded
English Comp. class. The problem that both you and the math
savant have/had is CONTENT
If you could attack the content you would. But you aren’t. So you attack my writing skills instead.

and there’s nothing wrong with my writing skills. I’m actually quite good at articulating my thoughts in writing.

wrong again-----it IS THE CONTENT which is faulty------be patient
But the most important part of knowledge, information, wisdom and truth is passing it down so that they can be built upon.


did you pass high school freshman biology?
Until you provide your summary, all you have are unsubstantiated accusations.

Genesis tells us, in part....

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
Genesis tells us, in part....

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation


so? you are calling that the "knowledge of ancient man" ?
Actually you are wrong. SOME of it is, very simply, the evolutionary
outcome of group survival HARDWIRED into the brain just like the
mating song of the cricket is hardwired.
Yes. Because they passed down knowledge of their surroundings, knowledge of their history and knowledge of their wisdom orally from generation to generation for thousands of years through these allegorical accounts.

nothing I mentioned is a product of evolution. Everything I mentioned is a product of observation and reasoning.

wrong again------the brain gets hardwired to all kinds of behaviors
via evolution INCLUDING concepts of social behavior that include
such "human behaviors" as "sharing" "empathy" and EVEN APPARENT CEREMONIES and "concepts" of "JUSTICE" . ----
A "humanoid" does not need a STORY in order to engage in
procreation and protection of the young OR EVEN IN JEALOUSY.
The behaviors are hardwired via evolution. THE STORIES CAME
LATER. That such stories exist PLANET WIDE----does not prove a
common origin or "traditional tales" What it does indicate is the forces of HUMAN EVOLUTION OF THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM-------we all have temporal lobes and an amygdala, and even that elusive "sense of justice"
The evolution of the central nervous system was predestined through the laws of nature that existed before space and time. Rather than mind evolving as a late outgrowth of the evolution of space and time, mind has always existed as the source or matrix of the material world such that beings which can create and know would eventually arise.

OY-----we got a WESLEYAN NUT-JOB here-----PREDISTINATION
we is all PREDESTINED either for hell or "heaven" -------
HaKHOL CHEVEL
 
did you pass high school freshman biology?
God loves biology. He created it.

You only exist because God willed the material world into existence.

All one has to do to know this is to study the material world.
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
Genesis tells us, in part....

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation


so? you are calling that the "knowledge of ancient man" ?
Actually you are wrong. SOME of it is, very simply, the evolutionary
outcome of group survival HARDWIRED into the brain just like the
mating song of the cricket is hardwired.
Yes. Because they passed down knowledge of their surroundings, knowledge of their history and knowledge of their wisdom orally from generation to generation for thousands of years through these allegorical accounts.

nothing I mentioned is a product of evolution. Everything I mentioned is a product of observation and reasoning.

wrong again------the brain gets hardwired to all kinds of behaviors
via evolution INCLUDING concepts of social behavior that include
such "human behaviors" as "sharing" "empathy" and EVEN APPARENT CEREMONIES and "concepts" of "JUSTICE" . ----
A "humanoid" does not need a STORY in order to engage in
procreation and protection of the young OR EVEN IN JEALOUSY.
The behaviors are hardwired via evolution. THE STORIES CAME
LATER. That such stories exist PLANET WIDE----does not prove a
common origin or "traditional tales" What it does indicate is the forces of HUMAN EVOLUTION OF THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM-------we all have temporal lobes and an amygdala, and even that elusive "sense of justice"
The evolution of the central nervous system was predestined through the laws of nature that existed before space and time. Rather than mind evolving as a late outgrowth of the evolution of space and time, mind has always existed as the source or matrix of the material world such that beings which can create and know would eventually arise.

OY-----we got a WESLEYAN NUT-JOB here-----PREDISTINATION
we is all PREDESTINED either for hell or "heaven" -------
HaKHOL CHEVEL
I don’t know that. What I do know is that beings that know and create were predestined to exist before space and time were created because intelligence is built into the fabric of the material world because intelligence created the material world.
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
Genesis tells us, in part....

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation


so? you are calling that the "knowledge of ancient man" ?
Actually you are wrong. SOME of it is, very simply, the evolutionary
outcome of group survival HARDWIRED into the brain just like the
mating song of the cricket is hardwired.
Yes. Because they passed down knowledge of their surroundings, knowledge of their history and knowledge of their wisdom orally from generation to generation for thousands of years through these allegorical accounts.

nothing I mentioned is a product of evolution. Everything I mentioned is a product of observation and reasoning.

wrong again------the brain gets hardwired to all kinds of behaviors
via evolution INCLUDING concepts of social behavior that include
such "human behaviors" as "sharing" "empathy" and EVEN APPARENT CEREMONIES and "concepts" of "JUSTICE" . ----
A "humanoid" does not need a STORY in order to engage in
procreation and protection of the young OR EVEN IN JEALOUSY.
The behaviors are hardwired via evolution. THE STORIES CAME
LATER. That such stories exist PLANET WIDE----does not prove a
common origin or "traditional tales" What it does indicate is the forces of HUMAN EVOLUTION OF THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM-------we all have temporal lobes and an amygdala, and even that elusive "sense of justice"
The evolution of the central nervous system was predestined through the laws of nature that existed before space and time. Rather than mind evolving as a late outgrowth of the evolution of space and time, mind has always existed as the source or matrix of the material world such that beings which can create and know would eventually arise.

OY-----we got a WESLEYAN NUT-JOB here-----PREDISTINATION
we is all PREDESTINED either for hell or "heaven" -------
HaKHOL CHEVEL
You do realize that the Torah states that God created existence, right?
 
I’m not the only one who believes Genesis describes the creation of existence aka the universe aka space and time.

Bar Ilan University’s Professor Nathan Aviezer, author of the book In the Beginning, also believes it.

“Without addressing who or what caused it, the mechanics of the creation process in the Big Bang match the Genesis story perfectly. If I had to make up a theory to match the first passages in Genesis, the Big Bang theory would be it,” said Aviezer.

“It’s an example of Divine irony that it took atheistic scientists like [Nobel laureate Paul] Dirac and all the others to point out the truth of the Torah. At this point I think we can say that creation is a scientific fact.”
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
Genesis tells us, in part....

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation


so? you are calling that the "knowledge of ancient man" ?
Actually you are wrong. SOME of it is, very simply, the evolutionary
outcome of group survival HARDWIRED into the brain just like the
mating song of the cricket is hardwired.
Yes. Because they passed down knowledge of their surroundings, knowledge of their history and knowledge of their wisdom orally from generation to generation for thousands of years through these allegorical accounts.

nothing I mentioned is a product of evolution. Everything I mentioned is a product of observation and reasoning.

wrong again------the brain gets hardwired to all kinds of behaviors
via evolution INCLUDING concepts of social behavior that include
such "human behaviors" as "sharing" "empathy" and EVEN APPARENT CEREMONIES and "concepts" of "JUSTICE" . ----
A "humanoid" does not need a STORY in order to engage in
procreation and protection of the young OR EVEN IN JEALOUSY.
The behaviors are hardwired via evolution. THE STORIES CAME
LATER. That such stories exist PLANET WIDE----does not prove a
common origin or "traditional tales" What it does indicate is the forces of HUMAN EVOLUTION OF THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM-------we all have temporal lobes and an amygdala, and even that elusive "sense of justice"
The evolution of the central nervous system was predestined through the laws of nature that existed before space and time. Rather than mind evolving as a late outgrowth of the evolution of space and time, mind has always existed as the source or matrix of the material world such that beings which can create and know would eventually arise.

OY-----we got a WESLEYAN NUT-JOB here-----PREDISTINATION
we is all PREDESTINED either for hell or "heaven" -------
HaKHOL CHEVEL
You do realize that the Torah states that God created existence, right?

nope
 
What is "IT" which is "NOT"? You "summarized the knowledge
of ancient man......" ? I am fascinated-----WHEN? In my freshman
college year, "ENGLISH COMP." 101-2 was OBLIGATORY -----
so many were like you---------barely able to write a cogent sentence.
I was assigned to the "REMEDIAL ROOM" to help your fellow nitwits.
One of my "students" was a math savant, but his idea of logical
writing was just like yours. He complained to me that he had gotten
a "D" on his paper even though he had CHECKED THE SPELLING.
No spelling errors!!!
Genesis tells us, in part....

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation


so? you are calling that the "knowledge of ancient man" ?
Actually you are wrong. SOME of it is, very simply, the evolutionary
outcome of group survival HARDWIRED into the brain just like the
mating song of the cricket is hardwired.
Yes. Because they passed down knowledge of their surroundings, knowledge of their history and knowledge of their wisdom orally from generation to generation for thousands of years through these allegorical accounts.

nothing I mentioned is a product of evolution. Everything I mentioned is a product of observation and reasoning.

wrong again------the brain gets hardwired to all kinds of behaviors
via evolution INCLUDING concepts of social behavior that include
such "human behaviors" as "sharing" "empathy" and EVEN APPARENT CEREMONIES and "concepts" of "JUSTICE" . ----
A "humanoid" does not need a STORY in order to engage in
procreation and protection of the young OR EVEN IN JEALOUSY.
The behaviors are hardwired via evolution. THE STORIES CAME
LATER. That such stories exist PLANET WIDE----does not prove a
common origin or "traditional tales" What it does indicate is the forces of HUMAN EVOLUTION OF THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM-------we all have temporal lobes and an amygdala, and even that elusive "sense of justice"
The evolution of the central nervous system was predestined through the laws of nature that existed before space and time. Rather than mind evolving as a late outgrowth of the evolution of space and time, mind has always existed as the source or matrix of the material world such that beings which can create and know would eventually arise.

OY-----we got a WESLEYAN NUT-JOB here-----PREDISTINATION
we is all PREDESTINED either for hell or "heaven" -------
HaKHOL CHEVEL
You do realize that the Torah states that God created existence, right?

nope
What do you believe the account of creation was all about, if not that God created everything?
 
Until you provide your summary, all you have are unsubstantiated accusations.

Genesis tells us, in part....

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation
That summery seems lacking, a lot.
And overly simplistic.

1. God created existence
G-d existed before He created.
As far as I know, Genesis doesn't say "G-d created existence".

2. Everything he created is good
Where does the knowledge of bad fit then?

6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
Not so precise - animals, to their extent, know as well.
You've missed man speaks.

8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
Verse?

9. Man knows right from wrong
Not exactly, man knows good an bad.

10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
Where did that come from? Verse?
Adam tried to rationalized, but he didn't deny he did "wrong".

Again, that summery is superficial,
it's like you've tried on purpose to empty it of all essence.
 
Well, you do seem to be especially drawn
to every thread that has to do with Judaism.

What's the motivation?
To understand your beliefs about God. For instance, it has been argued on these boards that the G-d of Abraham is cruel. I have argued that’s not how the Jews of the OT saw it. Unfortunately I have yet to find a Jew who is willing to discuss anything on this subject.
Already explained that.
Nice dodge. I didn’t think you could discuss it, but your pride wouldn’t allow you to say so.
Did you really ask a question?
So you go from you already answered it to did I ask a question?

But you aren’t scared, right?

Oh dingy dingy,
you've quoted 2 of my questions,
and none of yours.

Definitely NASA material...
I’m good with that as long as you don’t explain why your predecessors believed God is loving.

Actually I will win either way. ;)

My predecessors knew the words of G-d's prophets
and His commandments that speak of love.
Interesting. So you have no idea that Moses recorded in writing the history that all Jews already knew? You do realize that the account of Genesis was passed down orally from generation to generation for thousands of years before Moses recorded it, right?

Or were you taught that God revealed to Moses the accounts of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and that no one ever knew of that history until Moses revealed it?

But putting that aside, you have skipped thousands of years where your prophets had no name. Or are you suggesting that your people did not know God is loving before Moses?

Are you suggesting that God was loving when he condemned mankind to suffer?

Are you suggesting that God was loving when he brought forth a flood to kill mankind?

Are you suggesting that God was loving when he made Moses wander in the desert for 40 years?

Are you suggesting that God was loving when he gave the command to kill every man, woman and child in Canaan?

so if I am to understand you, your only basis in believing that your people believed God is loving is because your prophets told you so? That doesn’t sound like knowledge. That sounds like you are blindly parroting what you were told. sounds like you are what Rosie would call a child of society.

How do you believe the prophets knew God was loving? What was their basis for that belief?

I know.

Seriously ding,
it doesn't matter what I would answer,
You just totally neglect it, and reserve to dumping strawman fallacies.

All these leading talking points You get from the church,
are simple questions dealt with when children study the Humash.

All I can suggest, is try actually reading the book, slowly and carefully,
and refer You to Rashi - because otherwise it's just meaningless waste of time.


dingbat should do some JUMAH things in a mosque-----he can
get a whole bunch more moronic talking points from the weekly
khutbah jumaat feces fling
I would hope the rabbis would be more respectful and actually engage in serious dialogue.

Perhaps you could join in, and show them how it's done? :biggrin:
I have been.

Show me.
I have been.

you’ll have to answer the questions I asked him/her to see more.

So You don't know that real questions don't start with "so You don't know"? :SMILEW~130:
You see we can all be 'that kind' wise...

Btw ding how's your egg-god doing ?
Any chicken yet?
I'm hungry...
Get ready to be schooled by Rabbi ding. :)

Maybe you can start where luchi flopped:

Q. Vayakhel portion - what is the meaning and purpose of South and East in two,
and what's to North and West in one?

I really wanna know,
though chicken would be nice first.
Has your egg-god emerged yet?
We’re going to do this my way.


Jesus was necessary to reform Judaism. It had become fettered. They had forgotten God and no longer glorified God. In fact, they closed their book 400 years before because God no longer spoke to them. Theology, ritual, authority, grace, mystery and tradition are components of religion. They had become overbalanced in the Jewish faith. Where the form of religion had replaced God. It’s not that theology, ritual, authority, grace, mystery and tradition don’t have a place in worshipping God because they do, but your people had replaced God with them. Effectively they worshipped a false idol. They worshipped the created rather than the Creator. Which incidentally happened to be the original sin. God does not reject theology, ritual, authority, grace, mystery and tradition, God rejects the imbalance.

To your people Jesus was a effectively a rebel child of Judaism. So it is no surprise that your people and you yourself reject him because his message to you was that you are doing it wrong. You are worshipping the created instead of the creator. You are glorifying yourself instead of glorifying the Creator.

God is a rationalist and a moralist. He taught that your people should work out their own salvation with diligence. He is not against your religion. God is against the corruption which entered into Judaism and wanted your people to get back to what was important which is glorifying Him and shining a light on Him instead of yourselves.

Your people are free to crave and cling to impermanent states and things which are incapable of satisfying you. Your people are free to pursue pleasure, wealth, fame and power but none of those things will satisfy your people because you were made for more.

Yiu have forgotten your way. And that was why Jesus was born into this world, and that was the truth he testified to.

Your people were supposed to bear the iniquity of the world but you left it up to God to do it for you because you have forgotten God.

There's an oxymoron. By worshipping Jesus, the Prince instead of the King, one is glorifying the created and not the Creator.
You don’t believe in God anymore than the rest of your tribe. You only care about created things.

I don't have to believe in Him. He's there; all around me, in me, everywhere I go.
Actually you do. Because you certainly aren’t glorifying him.

BTW what you just described is pantheism. A wholly illogical and irrational belief system and the underlying basis of human secularism which is the scourge of existence and the poster child of worshipping the created rather than the creator which was and is man’s original and biggest sin and the source of all of man’s errors.

You're confusing things here:

Pantheism is seeing creation itself as G-d.
Though not necessary results in worship (Christianity), can be expressed in such way.

Now, all that is different from the Jewish thought, which rejects all worship of any creation,
sees the creation as revelation of G-d, but not limited by it. Or in other words - nothing has existence outside G-d. All creation essentially 'sings' His glory, attests to G-d.

It's what Maimonides means when saying that through observation of the creation,
through studying the complexity of creation, reveals the infinite wisdom hidden in it,
one widens knowledge of G-d - inevitably resulting in fulfillment of one of the main commandments of Judaism - love of G-d.

Big difference.
 
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