F--- trump

[flacaltenn]

Absolutely they are. All GoP voters in California and NY might as well stay home. Ditto any Dem voters in Texas.

Tough titties.. MAYBE those disenfranchised were ABANDONED by their parties. And THEY ARE.. CONSTANTLY.. The PARTIES choose not to run or financially back "losers"... IN FACT -- there's about 12 UNCONTESTED House races in every national vote... And if a Repub runs in a primary where there is no GOP support, it's probably some fringe Nazi that takes advantage of the void...

It's WORSE in California where they TOTALLY BY LAW, disenfranchise voters with the "Top 2" or "Jungle Primaries".. The invention that MADE Cali a "one party state"... If you don't place 1st or 2nd in the PRIMARY, your name WILL NOT be on the ballot in November.. This has resulted in the last TWO General Election November ballots HAVING NO CHOICES of ANY Republican or even INDEPENDENT or 3rd Party on the ballot.. Just TWO Democrats for Senate...

That's the same kind of DEMOCRAT hijinks to DOMINATE states as this foolish "abolish the EC" movement. And in CALI -- they are ALREADY there in COMPLETELY outlawing even allowing CHOICE in an election..

So -- if the Repubs in Cali give THEIR party members 4 or 5 choices and the DNC CONTROLS their primary to allow only 2 -- GUESS WHO is gonna make to the top 2... It's sinister and evil and YES -- it's "disenfranchisement on steroids"... Just like the "superdelegates" or the changing of their primary rules at a whim to ALLOW Bloomberg to appear on debate stage but NOT Tulsi Gabbard...

I think the DNC WINS the "party of disenfranchisement award" for ALL of the hard work they are emphasizing to CHANGE the election laws to guarantee their dominance...

 

[Coyote]

Typical far-left Progressive.

Demanding solutions for problems that do not exist.

Markle, it is the supreme duty of every radical Progressive to, first thing every day before anything else, to find and create non-existent problems and issues to be unhappy and bitch about. Their world would fly apart if they were ever to simply like their life and accept the world as it is.

The problem with "accepting the world as it is" - that is, as you want it to be - is that we'd have to accept:
child abuse at the border
discrimination against homosexuals
increased pollution in our air, land and water
the myth that climate change isn't real
the myth that some religions aren't religions because you say so
the myth that Trump doesn't lie (it's all literary license)
the fact that you don't believe women have any right to control their own bodies


and a lot of other unacceptable stuff.

About 3 of those myths have a basis in reality and/or any SERIOUS consequences. The others are just irritations or misrepresentations of fact...

For instance, what makes you believe in the "INCREASED air and water pollution"??? To paraphrase what Tooby said accepting the world as it is" -- there is no such thing as completely clean air and water except in laboratories.. I've drunk 99.99995% pure water and it tastes the same as most tap water anywhere I've lived..

Not to say that we don't HAVE REAL enviro problems.. But pressing standards BEYOND the science and medical justifications just makes it HARDER for folks who live in areas with NATURAL trace amounts of "bad stuff".. Amounts that are FAR BELOW science and medical standards...

And the FACT IS -- our air and water are multifold CLEANER than "before we cared"... I'm tired of seeing seeing "warning signs" on trails that mark places where NATURAL RUNOFF into a stream is considered a hazard worthy of an EPA waiver.. And the counties in which that runoff occurs are ALLOCATED only so many waivers.. There MIGHT be deer poop or minerals in that water -- but it's as clean as it was 200 years ago as a wilderness..

I would say all of them have a basis in reality.

But on pollution - it's not static. We are constantly inventing new technologies that create new chemicals and pollutants. We are also finding that what was once thought safe levels are not. In addition, you have further issues from rising sea-levels leading to increased flooding in coastal areas that threaten pollute aquifers. You can't just say the laws of yesterday are sufficient when the process itself is constantly changing.

IN GENERAL, we are FAR cleaner every decade.. Not patting us on the back, because ALL COUNTRIES as they mature and advance become cleaner...

In FACT -- as concerns CO2 emissions which ARE NOT "Pollution", the US has FAR SURPASSED most of the actual signers of the Paris accord in REDUCING them.. We NOW emit less CO2 than we DID in the 1990s... WHY???? Because of fracking and making us energy independent with natural gas..

AND THAT was done DESPITE every obstacle tossed in the path of that development by the Fed Govt...

ALL water and air standards have been BELOW medical/scientific standards of harm for a couple decades now.. We DON'T want to be like California that comically lists almost EVERYTHING as a "carcinogen".. That's neither SCIENCE OR MEDICINE.. It's an ACTUAL CULT of belief.... For example --

California could list common pain killer acetaminophen as carcinogen

NO.. That was NOT the Onion or the Bablylon Bee.. It's WHY I LEFT Cali about 15 years ago now.. I could not COPE with the Idiocracy that's there in power...

And that's WHY these regs need to be fought... Because of the fucking over reach by illiterate MORONS who want a ZERO RISK environment.. There is no such thing... When you get down to listing Aspirin and Coffee as "pollutants" and carcinogens, it's time to take out the clowns driving the bus..

We can do Sea level rise some other time.. But the WARNINGS about 9 or 12 FEET by 2100 are pure garbage science.. It ASSUMES COMPLETE MELTING of Antarctica and Greenland between then and now and just AINT gonna happen unless he ACTIVE VOLCANOES under Antarctic CAUSE it... It which case, we'll have less than a couple months warning and have WASTED the world's economy by "keeping the world safe from CO2...

You are STILL assuming that it's all static - that nothing changes, we know everything, and therefor no changes in regulation are needed.

You are using extreme examples as the "norm" - everyone knows Cali is more extreme BUT - sometimes they get it RIGHT. For example emissions standards and fuel efficiency standards for cars. The entire auto industry is already working towards it, they plan years ahead and their market is international, and many developed countries (well except for us now) - are demanding more efficient cars with less pollution. What was the point of tearing down that reg? It WASN'T the auto industry - they are still working on meeting higher standards regardless.

I can give you another example of where poor regs lead to an extreme problem - the chemical dump (caused by leaking containment) in to the Elk River, leaving thousands of people without drinking water for weeks.

Sea level rise - we don't know exactly how high it could be. You don't know. I don't know. But the fact is, we are already seeing the results of it and they are complex and wide spread. This is one interesting article on one aspect, happening now: Miami Will Be Underwater Soon. Its Drinking Water Could Go First

 

[IM2]

I don't have any masters, but apparently your ass is a slave to white extremism.

Your masters are those who do your thinking for you and tell you what to say.

You are just to stupid to realize it.

For you to believe I can't see what's in front of my face and that I have to be told what to say is the certain definition of racist thinking and ONLY you republicans do that.

Racist is someone who claims everything that he doesn't like is racist. Is republican a race? Are any who disagree with you and call you out on it a race?

You expose the very essence of being a racist with your claims and repeatedly expose that you cannot think for yourself.

BTW, care to prove what race I am based solely on the posts of this board? You can't, but that doesn't matter to you as all who are not supporting g your racist claims must be racist, according to you.

No that's not what a racist is. Go look up the definition in the dictionary. You are white. Your posts prove it. The most common tactic of a white racist in a forum like this is to do what you just did. You have told me that I am unable to think for myself and that I am told what to think by democratic masters. This is a common white republican tactic used in these types of forums against black people. Because you don't say this to asians even as 75 percent of all Asians are democrats. And every time you or another one like you does this, you present evidence of why blacks need not become members of the republican party. So democratic masters aren't telling me anything. Your statements do.

Are you always this confused?

Exactly opposite of reality and only to justify your own shortcomings and racism. The more you whine and project onto others, the more you expose your own racist self.

Your bringing in other races just proves it. I have never considered the race of a poster yet this is apparently all you do or are capable of doing.

This just proves you to be a waste of air and a bag of hate. You are what you are and it isn't pretty, only sick.

Wrong. Gaslighting doesn't work on me son.

 

[Coyote]

No, I just think Dr. Grump sucks donkey balls. You thought the EC was just fine when it elects a Democrat.

Nope. Second worst electoral system after the UK...

Well let's see here.. You a BIG fan of the UN?? One country, One vote ?? I'd rate that far worse, but the Maldives and Borneo wouldn't...

How about the US SENATE.. NUMERICALLY less democratic than the ECollege... You want to rip that up as well?

Wouldn't have BEEN a Constitution at ALL without it.. No small state wants to be totally irrelevant in terms of elections.. Never have -- never will.. Wouldn't be any hype or even COVERAGE of elections in about 35 states.

You bring up some fair points. If you want the EC to work properly, you have to fix up the two proportionality unfair aspects of it so nobody feels disenfranchised - both Dems and GoP members.

That's the problem, it ISN'T unfair. The entire point of the EC is to have 50 state elections based on POPULAR VOTE; the winner of each state is then represented by delegates whose number is weight proportionally in a way so that ALL states have a fair say according to their population and get representation in the final outcome to AVOID disenfranchisement!

If you actually lived in this country and understood our history and laws you'd understand that. Without the EC, California, New York and Illinois (or more specifically, New York City, Chicago, San Fran and LA) would decide every election and the rest of the country (even the rest of those states) would have no say in the outcome!


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Because the EC include all of the House districts AND the 2 senate seats as the representation number -- it's FAR MORE "democratic" than the Senate.. If you wanted a TARGET to blow up the Republic, any WISE Person would make the SENATE the target -- not the EC...

Maybe replace it with the "wise and honorable" UN compromise and replace it with a SECURITY council that balances the ridiculously UNdemocratic general assembly... Something like the top 8 states in population with TOKEN and ROTATING representation from the other 42 states... What a SNAFU THAT is.. And YET -- leftists are MORE likely to ADORE that "UN governing body"... Go figure...

I have no idea how I feel about the EC....it seems that with it, you have the tyranny of the minority...without it, the tyranny of the majority.

RARELY do the EC and popular vote deviate - usually the winner gets both. 1876, 1888, 2000, and 2016 saw the winner win the EC but not the popular vote.

I think if it becomes a trend, the idea of the EC should be revisited.

 

[toobfreak]

Nope. Second worst electoral system after the UK...

Well let's see here.. You a BIG fan of the UN?? One country, One vote ?? I'd rate that far worse, but the Maldives and Borneo wouldn't...

How about the US SENATE.. NUMERICALLY less democratic than the ECollege... You want to rip that up as well?

Wouldn't have BEEN a Constitution at ALL without it.. No small state wants to be totally irrelevant in terms of elections.. Never have -- never will.. Wouldn't be any hype or even COVERAGE of elections in about 35 states.

You bring up some fair points. If you want the EC to work properly, you have to fix up the two proportionality unfair aspects of it so nobody feels disenfranchised - both Dems and GoP members.

That's the problem, it ISN'T unfair. The entire point of the EC is to have 50 state elections based on POPULAR VOTE; the winner of each state is then represented by delegates whose number is weight proportionally in a way so that ALL states have a fair say according to their population and get representation in the final outcome to AVOID disenfranchisement!

If you actually lived in this country and understood our history and laws you'd understand that. Without the EC, California, New York and Illinois (or more specifically, New York City, Chicago, San Fran and LA) would decide every election and the rest of the country (even the rest of those states) would have no say in the outcome!


View attachment 308103

Because the EC include all of the House districts AND the 2 senate seats as the representation number -- it's FAR MORE "democratic" than the Senate.. If you wanted a TARGET to blow up the Republic, any WISE Person would make the SENATE the target -- not the EC...

Maybe replace it with the "wise and honorable" UN compromise and replace it with a SECURITY council that balances the ridiculously UNdemocratic general assembly... Something like the top 8 states in population with TOKEN and ROTATING representation from the other 42 states... What a SNAFU THAT is.. And YET -- leftists are MORE likely to ADORE that "UN governing body"... Go figure...

I have no idea how I feel about the EC....it seems that with it, you have the tyranny of the minority...without it, the tyranny of the majority.

RARELY do the EC and popular vote deviate - usually the winner gets both. 1876, 1888, 2000, and 2016 saw the winner win the EC but not the popular vote.

I think if it becomes a trend, the idea of the EC should be revisited.

So in other words, it is a fluke, a rarity that both do not end up in accord! That makes all this dire talk of needing to throw the EC out so much foolish blather. What the EC occasionally shows is not an imbalance in itself but rather an imbalance in the country.

 

[Coyote]

Well let's see here.. You a BIG fan of the UN?? One country, One vote ?? I'd rate that far worse, but the Maldives and Borneo wouldn't...

How about the US SENATE.. NUMERICALLY less democratic than the ECollege... You want to rip that up as well?

Wouldn't have BEEN a Constitution at ALL without it.. No small state wants to be totally irrelevant in terms of elections.. Never have -- never will.. Wouldn't be any hype or even COVERAGE of elections in about 35 states.

You bring up some fair points. If you want the EC to work properly, you have to fix up the two proportionality unfair aspects of it so nobody feels disenfranchised - both Dems and GoP members.

That's the problem, it ISN'T unfair. The entire point of the EC is to have 50 state elections based on POPULAR VOTE; the winner of each state is then represented by delegates whose number is weight proportionally in a way so that ALL states have a fair say according to their population and get representation in the final outcome to AVOID disenfranchisement!

If you actually lived in this country and understood our history and laws you'd understand that. Without the EC, California, New York and Illinois (or more specifically, New York City, Chicago, San Fran and LA) would decide every election and the rest of the country (even the rest of those states) would have no say in the outcome!


View attachment 308103

Because the EC include all of the House districts AND the 2 senate seats as the representation number -- it's FAR MORE "democratic" than the Senate.. If you wanted a TARGET to blow up the Republic, any WISE Person would make the SENATE the target -- not the EC...

Maybe replace it with the "wise and honorable" UN compromise and replace it with a SECURITY council that balances the ridiculously UNdemocratic general assembly... Something like the top 8 states in population with TOKEN and ROTATING representation from the other 42 states... What a SNAFU THAT is.. And YET -- leftists are MORE likely to ADORE that "UN governing body"... Go figure...

I have no idea how I feel about the EC....it seems that with it, you have the tyranny of the minority...without it, the tyranny of the majority.

RARELY do the EC and popular vote deviate - usually the winner gets both. 1876, 1888, 2000, and 2016 saw the winner win the EC but not the popular vote.

I think if it becomes a trend, the idea of the EC should be revisited.

So in other words, it is a fluke, a rarity that both do not end up in accord! That makes all this dire talk of needing to throw the EC out so much foolish blather. What the EC occasionally shows is not an imbalance in itself but rather an imbalance in the country.

At the moment yes - there isn't enough to indicate a trend - you had two in the late 1880's and two in the 2000's - if it continues, then we ought to be concerned wouldn't you think?

And I agree, throwing out the EC NOW is blather, BUT - people feel legitimately disenfranchised, as if their vote doesn't matter. If it happens too often we have a problem.

 

[Catman51]

Your masters are those who do your thinking for you and tell you what to say.

You are just to stupid to realize it.

For you to believe I can't see what's in front of my face and that I have to be told what to say is the certain definition of racist thinking and ONLY you republicans do that.

Racist is someone who claims everything that he doesn't like is racist. Is republican a race? Are any who disagree with you and call you out on it a race?

You expose the very essence of being a racist with your claims and repeatedly expose that you cannot think for yourself.

BTW, care to prove what race I am based solely on the posts of this board? You can't, but that doesn't matter to you as all who are not supporting g your racist claims must be racist, according to you.

No that's not what a racist is. Go look up the definition in the dictionary. You are white. Your posts prove it. The most common tactic of a white racist in a forum like this is to do what you just did. You have told me that I am unable to think for myself and that I am told what to think by democratic masters. This is a common white republican tactic used in these types of forums against black people. Because you don't say this to asians even as 75 percent of all Asians are democrats. And every time you or another one like you does this, you present evidence of why blacks need not become members of the republican party. So democratic masters aren't telling me anything. Your statements do.

Are you always this confused?

Exactly opposite of reality and only to justify your own shortcomings and racism. The more you whine and project onto others, the more you expose your own racist self.

Your bringing in other races just proves it. I have never considered the race of a poster yet this is apparently all you do or are capable of doing.

This just proves you to be a waste of air and a bag of hate. You are what you are and it isn't pretty, only sick.

Wrong. Gaslighting doesn't work on me son.

Any light to illuminate your mind you reject immediately. You just wish to remain a fool.

 

[Catman51]

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Let me know when America becomes great the first time.

Racist comment removed.

But the racist remains.

IQ2 is the worst kind of racist.

This thread is not about race so you are going to get reported.

Then why do YOU bring up race at every opportunity? Perhaps it is you who should be looked at.

 

[Dr Grump]

That's by design. You see, it is only a popular vote at the STATE LEVEL. At the national level, it is the STATES that are each voting via the EC, not individual people. You don't seem able to grasp that. For it to be "proportional" the way you imply, it would have to be and might as well be a national popular vote of mob rule which brings us right back to the original problem you ignore of all states having a voice and representation rather than just a few states and cities. I won't explain it again.

THIS ISN'T ENGLAND OR FRANCE and our system wouldn't work there nor theirs here.

Oh I get it, but please don't tell me it doesn't disenfranchises people. It does. End of story. As soon as you give an advantage to one sector of the population over another sector you are disenfranchising them. That is unfair.

As I have said in other threads it would be best if the EC was split via proportion of the vote in each state. Just like Maine and Nebraska. Even though that wouldn't fix the fact that an EC vote in Alaska is worth more than that in California. So you are against the tyranny of the majority, but okay with the tyranny of the minority. I get it. Bit like Batista in Cuba. The elite wealthly (ie the minority) lauded it over the dirt poor minority thus came about Castro.

 

[Dr Grump]

Absolutely they are. All GoP voters in California and NY might as well stay home. Ditto any Dem voters in Texas.

Tough titties.. MAYBE those disenfranchised were ABANDONED by their parties. And THEY ARE.. CONSTANTLY.. The PARTIES choose not to run or financially back "losers"... IN FACT -- there's about 12 UNCONTESTED House races in every national vote... And if a Repub runs in a primary where there is no GOP support, it's probably some fringe Nazi that takes advantage of the void...

It's WORSE in California where they TOTALLY BY LAW, disenfranchise voters with the "Top 2" or "Jungle Primaries".. The invention that MADE Cali a "one party state"... If you don't place 1st or 2nd in the PRIMARY, your name WILL NOT be on the ballot in November.. This has resulted in the last TWO General Election November ballots HAVING NO CHOICES of ANY Republican or even INDEPENDENT or 3rd Party on the ballot.. Just TWO Democrats for Senate...

That's the same kind of DEMOCRAT hijinks to DOMINATE states as this foolish "abolish the EC" movement. And in CALI -- they are ALREADY there in COMPLETELY outlawing even allowing CHOICE in an election..

So -- if the Repubs in Cali give THEIR party members 4 or 5 choices and the DNC CONTROLS their primary to allow only 2 -- GUESS WHO is gonna make to the top 2... It's sinister and evil and YES -- it's "disenfranchisement on steroids"... Just like the "superdelegates" or the changing of their primary rules at a whim to ALLOW Bloomberg to appear on debate stage but NOT Tulsi Gabbard...

I think the DNC WINS the "party of disenfranchisement award" for ALL of the hard work they are emphasizing to CHANGE the election laws to guarantee their dominance...

So voters are disenfranchised. Just as I said. Don't forget Texas Flacan. A Dem may as well stay home in Nov 2020.

 

[Correll]

I remember when I was a kid. Each day I would walk to school and inevitably run into the neighborhood bully and his buddies, get beat up, dust off my clothes and made sure I got to school before the bell. I figured I'd be OK just as long as I didn't engage the bully. After all nothing he did really hurt, so I just let it go. Apparently the bully figured he could keep doing this and that he could take things further and further and he would always get away with it. So one day, the bully feeling fully empowered as if he could do whatever he wanted but chose not to, took that extra step. I got to the corner of 10th and Colorado and the bully appeared. This time, he didn't hit me and go on, he decided he had the right to pee on me. So he peed on my pants and on that day, I was about 30 minutes late for school because I kicked that bully's ass and busted his bother in the face with a tree branch. Then I went home and changed pants.

Sometimes you have to get in the dirt with the bully and make him understand that he does not get todo whatever he wants. This is where the democrats are at today. All this himming and hawing about not getting in the mud with trump is punk shit. It's time democrats got muddy and bloody. Trump will quit once he sees blood and it is time to stop talking about fighting and be bout fighting. If Democrats want to lead this nation and know that our very democracy is at stake, then its time to take off the suit and get in the pit. Time to go blow for blow until the last one stands. Two candidates enter, one leaves. trump is not used to that. He's lived the easy life. He's never had to fight as if his very survival depended on it. He could run lawyers at people until they ran out of money and quit, but he has never, ever gone toe to toe. trump is soft and you can see this easily. When he thinks anything does not properly glorify his punk ass, he starts whining on twitter. If he breaks that law and gets investigated, the world is unfair to trump. If a little kid gets put on a magazine cover instead of him, he attacks the little kid. If the media reports a story that's not favorable to him, the media is unfair and corrupt. donald trump is a little bitch made pussy and it's time he got his ass beat.

So let's give that punk gets what he wants. A pier 6 ass whippin. That's what the democratic nominee needs to do.



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It is your guy that is afraid, not Trump. Bring it.

 

[JusticeHammer]

trump is about to lose. And you trump supporters are just as weak as he is.

Delusional liar^^^

 

[IM2]

For you to believe I can't see what's in front of my face and that I have to be told what to say is the certain definition of racist thinking and ONLY you republicans do that.

Racist is someone who claims everything that he doesn't like is racist. Is republican a race? Are any who disagree with you and call you out on it a race?

You expose the very essence of being a racist with your claims and repeatedly expose that you cannot think for yourself.

BTW, care to prove what race I am based solely on the posts of this board? You can't, but that doesn't matter to you as all who are not supporting g your racist claims must be racist, according to you.

No that's not what a racist is. Go look up the definition in the dictionary. You are white. Your posts prove it. The most common tactic of a white racist in a forum like this is to do what you just did. You have told me that I am unable to think for myself and that I am told what to think by democratic masters. This is a common white republican tactic used in these types of forums against black people. Because you don't say this to asians even as 75 percent of all Asians are democrats. And every time you or another one like you does this, you present evidence of why blacks need not become members of the republican party. So democratic masters aren't telling me anything. Your statements do.

Are you always this confused?

Exactly opposite of reality and only to justify your own shortcomings and racism. The more you whine and project onto others, the more you expose your own racist self.

Your bringing in other races just proves it. I have never considered the race of a poster yet this is apparently all you do or are capable of doing.

This just proves you to be a waste of air and a bag of hate. You are what you are and it isn't pretty, only sick.

Wrong. Gaslighting doesn't work on me son.

Any light to illuminate your mind you reject immediately. You just wish to remain a fool.

I accept things that illuminate my mind, what you present doesn't do so.

 

[Correll]

Racist is someone who claims everything that he doesn't like is racist. Is republican a race? Are any who disagree with you and call you out on it a race?

You expose the very essence of being a racist with your claims and repeatedly expose that you cannot think for yourself.

BTW, care to prove what race I am based solely on the posts of this board? You can't, but that doesn't matter to you as all who are not supporting g your racist claims must be racist, according to you.

No that's not what a racist is. Go look up the definition in the dictionary. You are white. Your posts prove it. The most common tactic of a white racist in a forum like this is to do what you just did. You have told me that I am unable to think for myself and that I am told what to think by democratic masters. This is a common white republican tactic used in these types of forums against black people. Because you don't say this to asians even as 75 percent of all Asians are democrats. And every time you or another one like you does this, you present evidence of why blacks need not become members of the republican party. So democratic masters aren't telling me anything. Your statements do.

Are you always this confused?

Exactly opposite of reality and only to justify your own shortcomings and racism. The more you whine and project onto others, the more you expose your own racist self.

Your bringing in other races just proves it. I have never considered the race of a poster yet this is apparently all you do or are capable of doing.

This just proves you to be a waste of air and a bag of hate. You are what you are and it isn't pretty, only sick.

Wrong. Gaslighting doesn't work on me son.

Any light to illuminate your mind you reject immediately. You just wish to remain a fool.

I accept things that illuminate my mind, what you present doesn't do so.

Trump is our answer to your media bullshit.

 

[IM2]

Let me know when America becomes great the first time.

Racist comment removed.

But the racist remains.

IQ2 is the worst kind of racist.

This thread is not about race so you are going to get reported.

Then why do YOU bring up race at every opportunity? Perhaps it is you who should be looked at.

I have not initiated any discussion of race in this thread. I do so in the appropriate section. You continue brining up race along with others. The topic of this thread is what democrats need to do in order to beat trump and the 2020 election. Not my supposed personal racism, or my being told what to think by democratic masters, or my need for employment or how I am bitter, or my blaming whites for my failures, and everything I have seen in this thread coming from whites like yourself.

So if you cannot discuss the topic, leave the thread.

 

[IM2]

trump is about to lose. And you trump supporters are just as weak as he is.

Delusional liar^^^

trump is hanging himself with his behavior right now. He's becoming more and more dictatorial and the question we are going to have to ask is: "Do we want to give this man 4 more years where he increases this type of behavior?"

 

[Correll]

Racist comment removed.

But the racist remains.

IQ2 is the worst kind of racist.

This thread is not about race so you are going to get reported.

Then why do YOU bring up race at every opportunity? Perhaps it is you who should be looked at.

I have not initiated any discussion of race in this thread. I do so in the appropriate section. You continue brining up race along with others. The topic of this thread is what democrats need to do in order to beat trump and the 2020 election. Not my supposed personal racism, or my being told what to think by democratic masters, or my need for employment or how I am bitter, or my blaming whites for my failures, and everything I have seen in this thread coming from whites like yourself.

So if you cannot discuss the topic, leave the thread.

It is obvious that maintaining the Racism Myth lie, is step one to defeating Trump.


If minorities of any stripe, especially blacks, look at Trump and judge him on his actions and accomplishments, instead of lib generated delusional bullshit, the dems will be crushed beyond repair.

 

[Coyote]

The problem with "accepting the world as it is" - that is, as you want it to be - is that we'd have to accept:
child abuse at the border

We (the USA) don't abuse anyone. As you know, the kids are handed off to coyote's who abuse them and pretend they are their own kids. How is that good?

discrimination against homosexuals

That's a major issue, that's a serious concern? Malarkey!

increased pollution in our air, land and water

Why is it that we have reduced our CO2 emissions more than any other country.

the myth that climate change isn't real

Climate Change (plan "B" for the "Global Warming" radicals) has been happening for over 4 BILLION years. Nothing has changed that then, nothing we will do will change it today. AGW is a myth. Get used to the facts.

the myth that some religions aren't religions because you say so

What does this even mean and why does it matter?

the myth that Trump doesn't lie (it's all literary license)

Yep, he exaggerates, bloviates, and rhapsodizes. So what?

He gets great things done, why do you hate all these great things happening?

the fact that you don't believe women have any right to control their own bodies

Not to worry, Roe vs Wade is not going to be overturned.

and a lot of other unacceptable stuff.

You mean like you hate him because he's arrogant, pushy, and New Yorkey?

That's so funny how you manage to excuse child abuse.

 

[Correll]

The problem with "accepting the world as it is" - that is, as you want it to be - is that we'd have to accept:
child abuse at the border

We (the USA) don't abuse anyone. As you know, the kids are handed off to coyote's who abuse them and pretend they are their own kids. How is that good?

discrimination against homosexuals

That's a major issue, that's a serious concern? Malarkey!

increased pollution in our air, land and water

Why is it that we have reduced our CO2 emissions more than any other country.

the myth that climate change isn't real

Climate Change (plan "B" for the "Global Warming" radicals) has been happening for over 4 BILLION years. Nothing has changed that then, nothing we will do will change it today. AGW is a myth. Get used to the facts.

the myth that some religions aren't religions because you say so

What does this even mean and why does it matter?

the myth that Trump doesn't lie (it's all literary license)

Yep, he exaggerates, bloviates, and rhapsodizes. So what?

He gets great things done, why do you hate all these great things happening?

the fact that you don't believe women have any right to control their own bodies

Not to worry, Roe vs Wade is not going to be overturned.

and a lot of other unacceptable stuff.

You mean like you hate him because he's arrogant, pushy, and New Yorkey?

That's so funny how you manage to excuse child abuse.

Children are separated from their parents every time their parents commit crimes and get caught and imprisoned.


This happens as a normal part of any civilized society.

 

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