Experts discover ancient Roman remains in North America just after Christ

[Preacher]

ANCIENT ROMANS landed in America: Staggering discovery will 'change history'

Just goes to bolster the fact that White Europeans were here LONG before Asiatic Indians were.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

There were many different groups who came to America before Columbus and could claim to have discovered it, the Vikings, Celts, Romans etc...but after Columbus it remained "discovered"

 

[daws101]

ANCIENT ROMANS landed in America: Staggering discovery will 'change history'

Just goes to bolster the fact that White Europeans were here LONG before Asiatic Indians were.

Bullshit the Roman"sword" used as evidenced in the article was tested and found to be a 19th century decorative end iron for a fireplace.
You can see it for yourself on the history channel program " the curse of oak island".
One of oak island theorists brought it in as evidenced of the same bullshit you are claiming as fact.
The oldest human remains found in the US are about13,000 years old.
And they are without doubt Asian.
Damn you're ignorant!

 

[daws101]

There were many different groups who came to America before Columbus and could claim to have discovered it, the Vikings, Celts, Romans etc...but after Columbus it remained "discovered"

You are somewhat correct

 

[daws101]

Roman Sword found on Oak Island turn out is a FAKE one?
Oak Island’s Roman sword saga unsheathed

 

[TNHarley]

The oldest human remains found in the US are about 50,000 years old.

There are scientists that have refuted that claim. They say the stones were not man-made.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

ANCIENT ROMANS landed in America: Staggering discovery will 'change history'

Just goes to bolster the fact that White Europeans were here LONG before Asiatic Indians were.

Bullshit the Roman"sword" used as evidenced in the article was tested and found to be a 19th century decorative end iron for a fireplace.
You can see it for yourself on the history channel program " the curse of oak island".
One of oak island theorists brought it in as evidenced of the same bullshit you are claiming as fact.
The oldest human remains found in the US are about 50,000 years old.
And they are without doubt Asian.
Damn you're ignorant!

There is some tool evidence that Stoneage Europeans visted North America between 19,000 and 26,000 years ago andt the oldest remains found in North america are between 12,000 and 15,000 years old not 50,000.

 

[daws101]

ANCIENT ROMANS landed in America: Staggering discovery will 'change history'

Just goes to bolster the fact that White Europeans were here LONG before Asiatic Indians were.

Bullshit the Roman"sword" used as evidenced in the article was tested and found to be a 19th century decorative end iron for a fireplace.
You can see it for yourself on the history channel program " the curse of oak island".
One of oak island theorists brought it in as evidenced of the same bullshit you are claiming as fact.
The oldest human remains found in the US are about 50,000 years old.
And they are without doubt Asian.
Damn you're ignorant!

There is some tool evidence that Stoneage Europeans visted North America between 19,000 and 26,000 years ago andt the oldest remains found in North america are between 12,000 and 15,000 years old not 50,000.

Solutrean hypothesis

Genetic Study Kills Off Solutrean Hypothesis

The oldest well-characterised archaeological culture in America is the Clovis culture. Its main diagnostic type is a large knapped stone spearhead with a fluted base. The Solutrean hypothesis starts from a comparison with spearheads from the Solutrean culture in south-west Europe, noting that certain Solutrean points have an outline that is similar to that of Clovis points. Is the Clovis point a typological descendant on the Solutrean point? No, say most Palaeolithic scholars, because never mind the outline shape:

1. The dates are wrong.
2. The size is wrong.
3. The knapping technique is wrong.
4. There’s no fluted base in the Solutrean material.

This is at heart not a debate about lithic tech, but about from what direction the Americas were first settled. From the north-west via Beringia, as the scholarly majority holds, or from the east via an ice-shelf, as a Solutrean minority holds.

Genetics have long since shown that today’s Native Americans descend from people in north-east Asia. But is is possible that the Clovis culture consisted of people with some other genetic make-up who died out because of a climate dip. To check this, we need genetic evidence from members of the Clovis culture, and this is sadly not a culture that practices much identifiable formal burial.

Now though, thanks to work by Morten Rasmussen and many co-authors published in Nature, we have the full genome of a Clovis person who lived c. 10,600 cal BC in Montana, the north-west US. The diagram above shows this individual’s genetic affinities. The important dots to look for are the black and grey ones. They show that the part of the world where people are farthest genetically from the Clovis culture are southern Europe and the Near East. This happens to include the area of the Solutrean culture. Case closed.

Thanks to much-loved Aard regular John Massey for the tip-off.

Keywords: archaeology, clovis, palaeolithic, solutrean
Genetic Study Kills Off Solutrean Hypothesis

you want fires with that ?

 

[daws101]

Oldest Burial Yields DNA Evidence of First Americans
Ancient genome confirms link between Asians and Native Americans.
By Ker Than , for National Geographic
PUBLISHED February 12, 2014




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DNA analysis revealed that the people who made Clovis tools (examples shown above) are likely related to all Native Americans living today.


PHOTOGRAPH BY SARAH L. ANZICK

DNA harvested from the remains of an infant buried 13,000 years ago confirms that the earliest widespread culture in North America was descended from humans who crossed over to the New World from Asia, scientists say.


The research, detailed in this week's issue of the journal Nature, also suggests that many contemporary Native Americans are direct descendants of the so-called Clovis people, whose distinctive stone tools have been found scattered across North America and Mexico.

The origins and genetic legacy of the people who made Clovis tools have been topics of debate among scientists. While most archaeologists think that the Clovis people were descended from Asians, an alternative theory suggests that the Clovis ancestors emigrated from southwestern Europe during the Last Glacial Maximum more than 15,000 years ago.

The new findings strongly refute that idea, known as the Solutrean hypothesis, said study co-author Michael Waters, director of the Center for the Study of the First Americans at Texas A&M University. "This shows very clearly that the ancestry of the very first Americans can be traced back to Asia," Waters said.

David Anderson, an anthropologist at the University of Tennessee Knoxville, agreed. "There's been a standard model for a long time that modern Native Americans are descended from populations coming from East Asia a few thousand years before Clovis, and that's what this finding reinforces," said Anderson, who was not involved in the study.

Anthropologist Dennis Jenkins of the University of Oregon said the new study was a "really important and really well done piece of research" that opens the door for new kinds of genetic comparisons among ancient Native American remains.

"The importance of this cannot be overemphasized," said Jenkins, who also did not participate in the research.

"People have often asked me what's the relationship of the Paisley Caves"—a site in Oregon where human feces and artifacts up to 13,200 years old have been found—"to Clovis, and I've always said that would be really nice to know, but there hasn't been any Clovis DNA until now," he said.

Oldest Burial in North America

The skeleton of the Clovis child—which experts determined belonged to a young boy about one to one-and-a-half years old—was discovered in 1968 in the Anzick burial site in western Montana. Dozens of ochre-covered stone tools found at the site were consistent with Clovis technology, and radiocarbon dating revealed that the skeleton was approximately 12,600 years old.

Oldest Burial Yields DNA Evidence of First Americans

 

[daws101]

What is the oldest human remains found?
Though fossils of hominids have been found dating back millions of years, the earliest known Homo sapiens remains are considered to be a group of bones found at the Omo Kibish Formation, near the Ethiopian Kibish Mountains.

 

[Picaro]

This thread reminds me of the controversies Barry Fell's books generated back in the 1970's; some of it was credible, some not, but they were fun read nonetheless. I'm not much of a fan of DNA dating's alleged accuracy, and I also don't see how one determines which directions these human migrations occurred. The 'Out of Africa' fans are happy with stealing from the Adam and Eve allegory from Genesis, but I've never been convinced humanity had to have come from a single source,myself.

 

[Unkotare]

ANCIENT ROMANS landed in America: Staggering discovery will 'change history'

Just goes to bolster the fact that White Europeans were here LONG before Asiatic Indians were.

You are really pathetic.