Zone1 Evolution of Rational Theism beyond Christianity gave us America

But all of your campaigning on abortion was for nought.

Not really. The first lady elect is a confessed baby killer.

Her husband is the father of IVF so he says.

The argument that the sanctity of life begins at conception in the United States of America is dead

Seven more states reproductive freedom in their constitutions. In Florida it only failed because it took a 60% threshold to pass. They got 57% there.

Florida has an aging population. It may take another decade. but someday women will be free in the state of Florida too.
 
Not really. The first lady elect is a confessed baby killer.

Her husband is the father of IVF so he says.

The argument that the sanctity of life begins at conception in the United States of America is dead

Seven more states reproductive freedom in their constitutions. In Florida it only failed because it took a 60% threshold to pass. They got 57% there.

Florida has an aging population. It may take another decade. but someday women will be free in the state of Florida too.
It was a political nothing burger and you put so much effort into it. Maybe you should double your efforts.
 
It won on the ballot in nine of ten more states, and ha a 57% majority in FL (which required 60%).
You have SCOTUS to thank for that. They really knew what they were doing when they said legislation needed to be passed.
 
Seven more states reproductive freedom in their constitutions. In Florida it only failed because it took a 60% threshold to pass. They got 57% there.
Have you thanked the Catholic justices on SCOTUS for that?
 
It was a political nothing burger and you put so much effort into it. Maybe you should double your efforts.


if you’re just going to make my answer for me, why did you bother asking it in the first place?

You asked me if it was for nought.

Now you are telling me it was a political nothing burger as if you know zero Harris voters went to the Polls knowing Trump infested the Supreme Court with three liars to the Senators that Roe v Wade was

And you know somehow no Democrat voted for a pro/choice Rep or Senator as top issue.


I like to discuss facts here not things people make up.


We also we now have a human being who is the first trans member in the US Congress

The draft order says it represents the majority opinion of the High Court. With all three liberal bloc justices likely to vote against it — and reports indicating conservative Chief Justice John Roberts was also unlikely to support completely dismantling the established precedent — the remaining five conservative bloc members are the most likely to potentially upend Roe.

Three of those conservative justices — Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett — were confirmed in the past five years, under former President Donald Trump. Amid criticism and examination of how detrimental such a ruling could become, renewed scrutiny has been given to those three justices in particular, as their appointments directly led to the possibility of Roebeing officially overturned later this year.

All three justices, as nominees at the time, gave answers indicating they would give deference to the nearly 50-year-old precedent protecting abortion rights. Their private conversations with lawmakers, too, are inconsistent with what appears to be their ruling on dismantling Roe.


In 2017, Gorsuch was nominated by Trump, who had himself promised only to select anti-abortion nominees to the Supreme Court. Gorsuch sought to assure senators tasked with approving him that he would not take the issue of abortion lightly, telling them during his hearings that he would have “walked out the door” had the former president demanded he overturn Roe.

In an exchange with Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Illinois) during those same hearings, Gorsuch was asked whether he agreed with specific findings from Roe, including the idea that, for the purposes of the 14th Amendment’s interpretations, a fetus is not a person.

“Do you accept that?” Durbin asked.

“That is the law of the land. I accept the law of the land, senator, yes,” Gorsuch responded.
 
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if you’re just going to make my answer for me, why did you bother asking it in the first place?

You asked me if it was for nought.

Now you are telling me it was a political nothing burger as if you know zero Harris voters went to the Polls knowing Trump infested the Supreme Court with three liars to the Senators that Roe v Wade was

And you know somehow no Democrat voted for a pro/choice Rep or Senator as top issue.


I like to discuss facts here not things people make up.


We also we now have a human being who is the first trans member in the US Congress

The draft order says it represents the majority opinion of the High Court. With all three liberal bloc justices likely to vote against it — and reports indicating conservative Chief Justice John Roberts was also unlikely to support completely dismantling the established precedent — the remaining five conservative bloc members are the most likely to potentially upend Roe.

Three of those conservative justices — Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett — were confirmed in the past five years, under former President Donald Trump. Amid criticism and examination of how detrimental such a ruling could become, renewed scrutiny has been given to those three justices in particular, as their appointments directly led to the possibility of Roebeing officially overturned later this year.

All three justices, as nominees at the time, gave answers indicating they would give deference to the nearly 50-year-old precedent protecting abortion rights. Their private conversations with lawmakers, too, are inconsistent with what appears to be their ruling on dismantling Roe.


In 2017, Gorsuch was nominated by Trump, who had himself promised only to select anti-abortion nominees to the Supreme Court. Gorsuch sought to assure senators tasked with approving him that he would not take the issue of abortion lightly, telling them during his hearings that he would have “walked out the door” had the former president demanded he overturn Roe.

In an exchange with Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Illinois) during those same hearings, Gorsuch was asked whether he agreed with specific findings from Roe, including the idea that, for the purposes of the 14th Amendment’s interpretations, a fetus is not a person.

“Do you accept that?” Durbin asked.

“That is the law of the land. I accept the law of the land, senator, yes,” Gorsuch responded.
So that's a no? You didn't send SCOTUS a thank you note?
 
Have you thanked the Catholic justices on SCOTUS for that?
No. Human Rights come from God, Not by man or by popular count or majority rule.

No majority rule should assign more rights to a fetus over the full grown woman who has a right to privacy regarding the body the fetus needs to survive.

The Catholics on the Supreme Court lied and fucked up with Dobbs. Women are dying as a result. More will die with the election outcome we had unless Melania

I will never think of respect a You lied to get on the Supreme Court. Are you nuts.
 
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No. Human Rights come from God, Not by man or by popular count or majority rule.

no majority rule can assign more rights to a fetus into a full grown woman.

The Catholics on the Supreme Court lied and fucked up with Dobbs. Women are dying as a result. More will die with the election outcome we had unless Melania

I will never think of respect a You lied to get on the Supreme Court. Are you nuts.
You just said how happy you were that seven states passed abortion legislation. That's all due to the forward thinking justices.
 
define “principles”.
Let me give you Patrick Henry's statement on the birth of our nation, "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ! For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity and freedom of worship here."
 
NotfooledbyW Oct’24 Veortb:

i. What's wrong with Christianity 210811
ding Aug’21 wwwcz: Christianity gave us America. Aug 11, 2021. #wwwcz6

ii. Evolution of Rational Theism beyond Christianity gave us America. 241007 {post•1}

NotfooledbyW Oct’24 Veortb: What Christianity as practiced today by supporters of Don Trump is morally, spiritually, and civically antithetical to the solid American principle of Civil Religion and freedom of conscience.

The idea that Christianity had something to do with the founding of America is a unfounded,

Saint Ding is afoul of the truth in paragraph i.

iii. A little history about the evolution of Christianity itself; excepts from “The Evolution of God” by Robert Wright

TEofG pg 288: It didn’t take Christians long to start annoying people as early as 64 CE, before all the books of the New Testament had been written, the Emperor Nero was having followers of Jesus smeared with pitch, put on crosses and set on fire. The thrifty persecutor, Nero (according to the Roman historian Tacitus), used the flaming bodies to serve as lights when daylight failed. The emperor’s immediate aim was to make Christian scapegoats, to blame them for a devastating fire that some people were blaming on him. But there was a less informal source of tension between the Christians and Roman rulers. Christians didn’t fit the Roman model of religion.

The Roman government let people worship whatever God they chose so long as they also paid homage to the official guards of the Empire. Christians refused to worship state gods, and they couldn’t honestly grant legitimacy to the various other gods people worshiped, either. In fact, they actively challenged that legitimacy because Christians weren’t just monotheistic; they were monotheists prone to proselytizing. .

The proselytizing outweighed the persecution, and Christianity grew until, in 312, it crossed its famous threshold: Emperor Constantine, inspired by a vision, decided to fight a crucial battle under the symbol of the cross. The ensuing victory elevated Jesus in his esteem and helped usher in an error of official tolerance for Christianity. By the end of the fourth century, Christianity was the official religion of the empire, and pagan religions were banned.

iv. Evolution of Rational Theism beyond Christianity gave us America. 241007 {post•1}

NotfooledbyW Oct’24 Veortb: It is not even remotely possible to believe America was created by any organized religion, including white protestant Christianity just before the turn of the 19th century.?

That one thing Saint Ding says above is part of one of the greatest and longest sustained lies in human history.

nfbw 241007 Verotb00001
Yup. America is a product of the Enlightenment
 
Let me give you Patrick Henry's statement on the birth of our nation, "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ! For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity and freedom of worship here."
what’s the source for that?
 
You just said how happy you were that seven states passed abortion legislation. That's all due to the forward thinking justices.

You are a liar. I stated facts Never said I was happy that states have to protect the very same rights that the three lying Catholic Trump judges took way,

Not a good look for American Catholicism.

I wrote; Seven more states added reproductive freedom in their constitutions. In Florida it only failed because it took a 60% threshold to pass. They got 57% there.

quit revising what I write.
 
You are a liar. I stated facts Never said I was happy that states have to protect the very same rights that the three lying Catholic Trump judges took way,

Not a good look for American Catholicism.

I wrote; Seven more states added reproductive freedom in their constitutions. In Florida it only failed because it took a 60% threshold to pass. They got 57% there.

quit revising what I write.
You should send the justices a gift basket for making this possible.
 
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