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CHRISTIANITY’S JESUS/MAN-GOD IS NOT
OUR CREATOR, THE GOD OF TORAH!
Hugh Fogelman and John Stone
Ex-pastor Craig Lyons writes: “What the vast majority of Christians fail to realize is that the Hebrew Bible has nothing to say about Jesus, not one thing.” 1[Emphasis added]
Carefully note that he said the “Hebrew Bible;” not the Greek mistranslation of it with its hundreds of alterations and purposeful misquotations and mistranslations purposefully done in an attempt to write within it Christian concepts concerning a pagan dead man-god known as Jesus. That would be known as the Christian Bible.
It is these religious concepts, which were added the Greek translations of the Hebrew Bible, that in a little over 200 years from their initial forgery would be applied to Jesus by the pagan-gentile church of the fourth century which were made up by Roman and Greek laymen. It would be these Greek Church Fathers who gave the strength to the reinterpretation of the Jewish Messiah, and students today find their legacy only compounded upon by Rome.
Christianity's use of the Hebrew Bible is both their strength and their flaw. It is their strength because the Hebrew Bible is the word of God. It is their flaw because gentile pagan Christianity deliberately misinterpreted and misappropriated the Hebrew Scriptures to support their plagiarized pagan claims.
However, when Christianity claims fulfillment of, and yet destroys the Hebrew Bible's message and prophecies, then all who seek the truth have a duty to identify these terrible errors; which are being deliberately passed off to the unsuspecting gentile world as the “infallible, inerrant, and inspired” Word of God.
Ex-pastor Lyons wrote:
“Such a Christian's Bible with such falsehoods and Scriptural adulterations is anything but the Word of God. Secondarily, the Jesus depicted within such a document is anything but “real.”
It is a shame that Christians blindly accept the New Testament's (NT) depiction of Jesus, along with all the forged and falsified texts that surround him, and never desire to investigate or question this “invented” Jesus.
Step back and realize that there are only two bibles; the Source Document, the Hebrew Bible – and copies upon copies, upon copies of the Christian bible. Scholars know what can happen to “copies.” Father Eusebius, after the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE, admitted to changing copies to reflect his own concept of the Christian god Jesus. Before the New Testament was canonized other Christian leaders followed Eusebius’ lead and modified their writings. However, the Hebrew Bible stands in stark contrast to the Christian bibles and copies; for today it is exactly as received over 3,315 years ago.
Without first reading the Source Document, the Hebrew Bible, before reading the New Testament; it is impossible to identify and tell the forgery from the truth. When reading the pages of the NT, Christians accept without question that all contained therein must be true because their clergy and their bible-intoxicated friends have forever been telling them it is the “Word of God unto salvation, yada, yada, yada.” As my wife said, they will never know they are wrong because they were taught never to doubt the NT or ask questions about its reliability and integrity, even though Jews have told the world for over 2,000 years that the Christian Messiah is NOT the Messiah promised in the Hebrew Bible; but no one takes heed!
The truth of the matter is that Christians have been deliberately set up. Their conscience and guilt has been carefully manipulated―against their better judgement―by askilfully induced fear of “the devil” and eternal “hellfire.” The result is a belief in Jesus, a dead man-god that never existed. Christians do not realize that clinging to a faith in a dead man-god makes them an idolater and blasphemer before God!
As G-d created our minds, He expects us to use our reasoning together with our faith. Faith is not a substitute for reason, but a development from it and alongside it. God does not expect us to be led blindly by others who are trying to sell their new/invented pagan religion, aka Christianity. In extremely strong and direct language, God warned all of us about this very thing over 3,315 years ago when the Children of Israel were gathered at Mount Sinai. Carefully study Deuteronomy 13:1-5 (KJV) below:
“If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth [is testing] you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
As you see here, a new religion–a new god [Jesus] is considered an “evil” in your midst. Could God have been any clearer on this? Why didn’t you know this? Why haven’t your clergy and Sunday school teachers taught this? Oh, I see, it is in the Old Testament and that was replaced by this “new” testament. Convenient don’t you think? And what about tithing? That is ONLY in the Old Testament, but your church and clergy brings that forward and makes it a commandment on you. Funny isn’t it – how Christianity picks this and throws out that. All the while it is your soul they are playing with. BUT do you now care enough to study on your own and come to know your Creator instead of a dead man-god?
Let us continue and see what more God has to say on new religions/gods. What if it is your family and friends approaching you with the “good news” of the gospel??? Deuteronomy 13:6-11:
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9 But thou shalt surely kill him;2 thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
Is this not crystal clear? What part do you not understand? Oh yeah, this is the Old Testament and we do not follow that anymore. Says who―God? NO! God said his Torah was eternal! Now what part of eternal do you not understand? Oh, but your preachers and friends said this and that. Does that make it right? Does that cancel God’s own eternal words that have stood exactly as originally given over 3,315 years ago? You know the answer! NO!
So, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to keep going to church and praying to a dead man-god? Are you going to do what God warned you not to do? Or, are you going to embark on an honest mission ― to know your Creator and stand in awe of him, to serve only Him and as he asks?
The Christian bible says Jesus was a Jew and even that he never advocated the establishment of any new religion. Christianity is a religion about Jesus, not Jesus’ religion. Christianity is an invention primarily of the character called Paul. It should be more properly called Pauline Christology.
Unknown to Christians is that the non-Jew, the gentile, has his place within Biblical Judaism as he adheres to the “Covenant and Laws of Noah” which Judaism has taught for over three thousand years. These laws are knows as the Seven Universal Laws for Mankind.
Embark on a search for truth and these laws will be brought before you.
Footnotes:
1. Pastor Craig Lyons, M.Div: 902 Cardigan, Garland, Texas 75040
2. After the 2nd Temple was destroyed, so was the Great Sanhedrin. Also lost was the authority to inflict capital punishment.
© 2001-2005 Christianity Revealed
OUR CREATOR, THE GOD OF TORAH!
Hugh Fogelman and John Stone
Ex-pastor Craig Lyons writes: “What the vast majority of Christians fail to realize is that the Hebrew Bible has nothing to say about Jesus, not one thing.” 1[Emphasis added]
Carefully note that he said the “Hebrew Bible;” not the Greek mistranslation of it with its hundreds of alterations and purposeful misquotations and mistranslations purposefully done in an attempt to write within it Christian concepts concerning a pagan dead man-god known as Jesus. That would be known as the Christian Bible.
It is these religious concepts, which were added the Greek translations of the Hebrew Bible, that in a little over 200 years from their initial forgery would be applied to Jesus by the pagan-gentile church of the fourth century which were made up by Roman and Greek laymen. It would be these Greek Church Fathers who gave the strength to the reinterpretation of the Jewish Messiah, and students today find their legacy only compounded upon by Rome.
Christianity's use of the Hebrew Bible is both their strength and their flaw. It is their strength because the Hebrew Bible is the word of God. It is their flaw because gentile pagan Christianity deliberately misinterpreted and misappropriated the Hebrew Scriptures to support their plagiarized pagan claims.
However, when Christianity claims fulfillment of, and yet destroys the Hebrew Bible's message and prophecies, then all who seek the truth have a duty to identify these terrible errors; which are being deliberately passed off to the unsuspecting gentile world as the “infallible, inerrant, and inspired” Word of God.
Ex-pastor Lyons wrote:
“Such a Christian's Bible with such falsehoods and Scriptural adulterations is anything but the Word of God. Secondarily, the Jesus depicted within such a document is anything but “real.”
It is a shame that Christians blindly accept the New Testament's (NT) depiction of Jesus, along with all the forged and falsified texts that surround him, and never desire to investigate or question this “invented” Jesus.
Step back and realize that there are only two bibles; the Source Document, the Hebrew Bible – and copies upon copies, upon copies of the Christian bible. Scholars know what can happen to “copies.” Father Eusebius, after the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE, admitted to changing copies to reflect his own concept of the Christian god Jesus. Before the New Testament was canonized other Christian leaders followed Eusebius’ lead and modified their writings. However, the Hebrew Bible stands in stark contrast to the Christian bibles and copies; for today it is exactly as received over 3,315 years ago.
Without first reading the Source Document, the Hebrew Bible, before reading the New Testament; it is impossible to identify and tell the forgery from the truth. When reading the pages of the NT, Christians accept without question that all contained therein must be true because their clergy and their bible-intoxicated friends have forever been telling them it is the “Word of God unto salvation, yada, yada, yada.” As my wife said, they will never know they are wrong because they were taught never to doubt the NT or ask questions about its reliability and integrity, even though Jews have told the world for over 2,000 years that the Christian Messiah is NOT the Messiah promised in the Hebrew Bible; but no one takes heed!
The truth of the matter is that Christians have been deliberately set up. Their conscience and guilt has been carefully manipulated―against their better judgement―by askilfully induced fear of “the devil” and eternal “hellfire.” The result is a belief in Jesus, a dead man-god that never existed. Christians do not realize that clinging to a faith in a dead man-god makes them an idolater and blasphemer before God!
As G-d created our minds, He expects us to use our reasoning together with our faith. Faith is not a substitute for reason, but a development from it and alongside it. God does not expect us to be led blindly by others who are trying to sell their new/invented pagan religion, aka Christianity. In extremely strong and direct language, God warned all of us about this very thing over 3,315 years ago when the Children of Israel were gathered at Mount Sinai. Carefully study Deuteronomy 13:1-5 (KJV) below:
“If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth [is testing] you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
As you see here, a new religion–a new god [Jesus] is considered an “evil” in your midst. Could God have been any clearer on this? Why didn’t you know this? Why haven’t your clergy and Sunday school teachers taught this? Oh, I see, it is in the Old Testament and that was replaced by this “new” testament. Convenient don’t you think? And what about tithing? That is ONLY in the Old Testament, but your church and clergy brings that forward and makes it a commandment on you. Funny isn’t it – how Christianity picks this and throws out that. All the while it is your soul they are playing with. BUT do you now care enough to study on your own and come to know your Creator instead of a dead man-god?
Let us continue and see what more God has to say on new religions/gods. What if it is your family and friends approaching you with the “good news” of the gospel??? Deuteronomy 13:6-11:
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9 But thou shalt surely kill him;2 thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
Is this not crystal clear? What part do you not understand? Oh yeah, this is the Old Testament and we do not follow that anymore. Says who―God? NO! God said his Torah was eternal! Now what part of eternal do you not understand? Oh, but your preachers and friends said this and that. Does that make it right? Does that cancel God’s own eternal words that have stood exactly as originally given over 3,315 years ago? You know the answer! NO!
So, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to keep going to church and praying to a dead man-god? Are you going to do what God warned you not to do? Or, are you going to embark on an honest mission ― to know your Creator and stand in awe of him, to serve only Him and as he asks?
The Christian bible says Jesus was a Jew and even that he never advocated the establishment of any new religion. Christianity is a religion about Jesus, not Jesus’ religion. Christianity is an invention primarily of the character called Paul. It should be more properly called Pauline Christology.
Unknown to Christians is that the non-Jew, the gentile, has his place within Biblical Judaism as he adheres to the “Covenant and Laws of Noah” which Judaism has taught for over three thousand years. These laws are knows as the Seven Universal Laws for Mankind.
Embark on a search for truth and these laws will be brought before you.
Footnotes:
1. Pastor Craig Lyons, M.Div: 902 Cardigan, Garland, Texas 75040
2. After the 2nd Temple was destroyed, so was the Great Sanhedrin. Also lost was the authority to inflict capital punishment.
© 2001-2005 Christianity Revealed