Zone1 God's Ten Commandments Must Be Kept

[crossbody]

You don't seem to get it.

The specific reason that God condemned the flesh of swine as vile and loathsome and forbidden to eat is because they do not RUMINATE which has direct human implications about people who "just believe", have blind faith, and swallow any irrational garbage without RUMINATING, thinking.

The subject of Kosher law was never about food, what goes into your mouth (and out of your ass). Its about beliefs, teaching, ideologies, etc, what goes into your mind and out of your mouth.

This is what defiles and contaminates a persons (mind). What you eat you flush down the toilet.

Think of the literal interpretation and application of the law as the lesser light that rules the night and the deeper implications of the same laws that actually reflects a profound understanding and knowledge of the human mind worthy of a benevolent God is the greater light that rules the day.

For as long as there are people on earth the law will remain relevant, in effect and in full force, and everyone who sets that instruction aside and eats the flesh of swine that do not ruminate will die the death, a curse, go insane, and will degenerate into an unclean creature that cannot ruminate.

The verifiable proof of this truth is obliviously provided by "just believers" every single day.

so basically you have a problem with anyone who "Believes" God, so why should anyone believe you?

 

[hobelim]

so basically you have a problem with anyone who "Believes" God,

No, I have a problem with lazy.

I have a problem with anyone who doesn't take the monumental intellectual effort required to put on their pants and apply that to learning the deeper meaning of the words and subjects of the Law which is the same exact way that Jesus taught was the only way to understand the hidden subjects and comply with the Law that fulfills the promise of eternal life here and now on earth.

Now, on earth, while still living. Not when you die after living like a schnook for your entire life.

Professing to believe that the concern of God, who is Spirit, for human beings, is to regulate diet fashion and the sexual preferences of consenting adults is in itself profane and an affront to God, not to mention the exact same perverse way to follow the Law that Jesus lived and died opposing

Am I telling you something that you didn't already know?

so why should anyone believe you?

Why wouldn't any intelligent person see and accept the deeper implications of the exact same Law that actually reflects wisdom worthy of a benevolent God and dedicated and loving Father?

If you take the Law literally the image and likeness of God becomes that of a cruel and capricious petty tyrant with the carnal concerns of a perverse and demented creepy and lecherous old man.

I don't care if anyone believes me. If they can't perceive and accept the obvious once it's been revealed to them and by choosing lies over revealed truth they will make evil a deliberate choice.

With no excuses.

Its harvest time. Not everything growing in the field will make it into the barn. Thems the breaks!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Keep your weird, shamanistic rituals and incantations away from children.

 

[ninja007]

The Roman Catholic Church adds works to salvation. It denies that we are justified by faith alone in Christ alone. It adds sacraments (CCC 1129), baptism (CCC 1257), penance (CCC 980), and the works of the Law (commandments) as necessary for salvation (CCC 2068, 2036, 2070). The Bible teaches that keeping the commandments is not necessary for salvation (Romans 3:28, 4:5, Gal. 2:16, 21) and is to be avoided (Gal. 5:1-5). Otherwise, what Paul says in Romans 4:5 wouldn’t be true, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.”
The Roman Catholic Church preaches a false gospel.

 

[ding]

The Roman Catholic Church adds works to salvation. It denies that we are justified by faith alone in Christ alone. It adds sacraments (CCC 1129), baptism (CCC 1257), penance (CCC 980), and the works of the Law (commandments) as necessary for salvation (CCC 2068, 2036, 2070). The Bible teaches that keeping the commandments is not necessary for salvation (Romans 3:28, 4:5, Gal. 2:16, 21) and is to be avoided (Gal. 5:1-5). Otherwise, what Paul says in Romans 4:5 wouldn’t be true, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.”
The Roman Catholic Church preaches a false gospel.

2 Timothy 2:23-26, 2 Timothy 2:14, Matthew 12:25, Matthew 18:15-16, Romans 14:1-23, Romans 16:17-18, 1 Corinthians 3:3, 1 Corinthians 13:1-2, 1 John 4:20-21, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 28:25, Galatians 5:15, Galatians 5:19-21, Titus 3:10, Jude 1:19, Ephesians 4:3-6, Ephesians 4:31-32, Colossians 3:12-14, 1 Corinthians 12:25, 1 Peter 3:8, Philippians 2:1-2, John 17:20-23, Mark 3:24-25, Luke 11:17 and James 3:16.

 

[onefour1]

The Roman Catholic Church adds works to salvation. It denies that we are justified by faith alone in Christ alone. It adds sacraments (CCC 1129), baptism (CCC 1257), penance (CCC 980), and the works of the Law (commandments) as necessary for salvation (CCC 2068, 2036, 2070). The Bible teaches that keeping the commandments is not necessary for salvation (Romans 3:28, 4:5, Gal. 2:16, 21) and is to be avoided (Gal. 5:1-5). Otherwise, what Paul says in Romans 4:5 wouldn’t be true, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.”
The Roman Catholic Church preaches a false gospel.

James 1:22
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Matthew 7:21
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

James 2:14-26
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Although good works like keeping the ordinances of the gospel and keeping God's commandments do not save us, but only the grace of Jesus Christ, works are required of us in order to not have a dead faith but a true faith in order to come to the grace that saves. So no we are not justified by our works but they are required of us before God will grant his grace and justification upon us.

Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

We are save by grace through faith. It is the grace that saves us. However it is through faith that we come to grace. Our works nor our faith actually have the power to save us. However, if Jesus requires that we do his will in order to enter the kingdom of heaven, then he requires those works of us before he will will grant the grace that saves. Verse 10 above tells us in no uncertain terms that we are created in Christ Jesus unto good works and that God has before ordained that we should walk in them.

 

[BreezeWood]

Our works nor our faith actually have the power to save us.

yours is the defiance of what jesus taught, liberation theology, self determination - the 1st century events, the repudiation of judaisms false commandments, hereditary idolatry ...

the above works and faith are all that kept those during the time noah from being drowned.

to sin no more, the triumph over evil is the means for admission to the everlasting as taught by jesus.

 

[onefour1]

yours is the defiance of what jesus taught, liberation theology, self determination - the 1st century events, the repudiation of judaisms false commandments, hereditary idolatry

No, it is not in defiance of what Jesus taught! God has often taught us to follow his teachings by keeping his commandments and to do good works. But he has never taught that our works are the saving force behind salvation. God requires that we walk in good works and that we exercise faith in him but it is not the works nor the faith that do the saving. It is only by the grace of Jesus Christ that we are saved. God may require that we have faith and do good works before he will grant his grace upon us, but it is not the faith and works that save us but the grace he grants that is the actual power behind salvation. Nobody ever has or will be saved into the kingdom of heaven by their faith or works alone. It always requires the grace of Jesus Christ and his mercy since we all have sinned and fallen short of his glory and we all are in need of his mercy and grace. Without it, not one of us can or will be saved. He may require works at our hands before granting his grace, but without the grace, no amount of works can ever save us.

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the above works and faith are all that kept those during the time noah from being drowned.

Works and faith were required of Noah and his family. But without the warning from God and possibly much help, I know that Noah and his family would have drowned just all the rest of mankind. Noah and his family were saved by the Lord and although works were required, without the mercy of the Lord, Noah and his family would also have perished.

to sin no more, the triumph over evil is the means for admission to the everlasting as taught by jesus.

Yes we are required to do good works and yes we must repent and follow after Jesus' example. But without the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ, there would be no forgiveness of sin and we would all be subject unto the law and condemned for our sins that we commit. Jesus' grace is essential for any soul to ever find entrance into the kingdom of heaven. And if not for Jesus, no man or woman would ever come forth in the resurrection of the dead to immortality. Works, in an of themselves can never bring the blessings of entrance into the kingdom of heaven nor the blessing of immortality through the resurrection of the dead. We are all dependent on the grace of our Lord and Savior to be saved.

 

[ninja007]

James 1:22
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Matthew 7:21
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

James 2:14-26
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Although good works like keeping the ordinances of the gospel and keeping God's commandments do not save us, but only the grace of Jesus Christ, works are required of us in order to not have a dead faith but a true faith in order to come to the grace that saves. So no we are not justified by our works but they are required of us before God will grant his grace and justification upon us.

Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

We are save by grace through faith. It is the grace that saves us. However it is through faith that we come to grace. Our works nor our faith actually have the power to save us. However, if Jesus requires that we do his will in order to enter the kingdom of heaven, then he requires those works of us before he will will grant the grace that saves. Verse 10 above tells us in no uncertain terms that we are created in Christ Jesus unto good works and that God has before ordained that we should walk in them.

read Romans. works dont save us.

 

[ninja007]

James 1:22
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Matthew 7:21
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

James 2:14-26
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Although good works like keeping the ordinances of the gospel and keeping God's commandments do not save us, but only the grace of Jesus Christ, works are required of us in order to not have a dead faith but a true faith in order to come to the grace that saves. So no we are not justified by our works but they are required of us before God will grant his grace and justification upon us.

Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

We are save by grace through faith. It is the grace that saves us. However it is through faith that we come to grace. Our works nor our faith actually have the power to save us. However, if Jesus requires that we do his will in order to enter the kingdom of heaven, then he requires those works of us before he will will grant the grace that saves. Verse 10 above tells us in no uncertain terms that we are created in Christ Jesus unto good works and that God has before ordained that we should walk in them.

none of those verses has anything to do with salvation.

 

[onefour1]

read Romans. works dont save us.

To this I would simply say that you need to read my posts. I never said that our works save us. I have simply said that the Lord may require works at our hands before he will grant his saving grace upon us.

 

[onefour1]

none of those verses has anything to do with salvation.

Like I said in my reply above, I have not been saying that our works save us. However, God does require that we do his will in order to receive his saving grace to enter his kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 7:21
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

If you want to be saved into the kingdom of heaven, what do you need to do according to this verse? HInt: read the bolded text.

 

[irosie91]

such are the cowards as moses the liar claiming heavenly persuasion for their 10 commandments as buttercup than the truth ...

as the true heavenly personification taught by jesus, liberation theology, self determination for a spirit to earn their way to the everlasting than die under false pretenses.

leave moses alone---he had a rough childhood----his foster brother was jealous, his mom was neurotic---and he barely knew his relatives. At
age 18 he was EMANCIPATED, didn't have a job or an "inheritance"

 

[Meriweather]

read Romans. works dont save us.

none of those verses has anything to do with salvation.

...Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven...

Would you agree that salvation has come to heaven? Would you agree that God's will includes serving Him and doing the works He has planned?

Then what is all the yammering about works not saving and works not having anything to do with salvation? Salvation has been open to all of us here on earth. Now is our opportunity to grow God's Kingdom on earth and to do the works He has placed into our lives to do here on Earth.

With giggles I can imagine you in heaven snapping at all the Catholics that they shouldn't be doing works because everyone is already "saved" and no one can earn more "saving"!

Accept your idea of "saved" is night and day from what Catholics believe about salvation and our participation here on earth in Christ's saving work of salvation as we participate in bringing God's kingdom so what is in heaven is also on earth.

 

[BreezeWood]

such are the cowards as moses the liar claiming heavenly persuasion for their 10 commandments as buttercup than the truth ...

leave moses alone---he had a rough childhood----his foster brother was jealous, his mom was neurotic---and he barely knew his relatives. At
age 18 he was EMANCIPATED, didn't have a job or an "inheritance"

there are cowards to reference, in that light 91 is correct moses should not be included -

those others including moses are liars, not any of them have conversed w/ the heavens above what all other beings on planet earth have accomplished and their references in those books are a deliberate distortion of the truth as many of those distortions are the works of crucifiers.

revisions is the means to reverse the march to armageddon ... is why such is not found in the christian bible - the triumph of good, the heavenly religion of antiquity.

 

[ninja007]

...Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven...

Would you agree that salvation has come to heaven? Would you agree that God's will includes serving Him and doing the works He has planned?

Then what is all the yammering about works not saving and works not having anything to do with salvation? Salvation has been open to all of us here on earth. Now is our opportunity to grow God's Kingdom on earth and to do the works He has placed into our lives to do here on Earth.

With giggles I can imagine you in heaven snapping at all the Catholics that they shouldn't be doing works because everyone is already "saved" and no one can earn more "saving"!

Accept your idea of "saved" is night and day from what Catholics believe about salvation and our participation here on earth in Christ's saving work of salvation as we participate in bringing God's kingdom so what is in heaven is also on earth.

you keep believing you can save yourself then; no need for Jesus to die on the cross.

 

[Meriweather]

you keep believing you can save yourself then;

Except...no Catholic believes that. Catholics believe Jesus opened the Way of Salvation for all to live it from this day forward for all eternity. We are living salvation, not "earning" salvation.

It seems some are waiting to die before they are permitted to enter eternal life.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They must be kept away from children.

 

[0311]

1. Thou shalt not have any other gods before God.

2. Thou shalt not make yourself an idol.

3. Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain.

4. Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it Holy.

5. Honor your Father and Mother.

6. Thou shalt not murder.

7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8. Thou shalt not steal.

9. Thou shalt not testify or bear false witness against your neighbor.

10. Thou shalt not covet.

1. YOU MAGA MAGGOTS worship the Orange Shit Stain. You failed one/

4. Vonshitzinpantz never attends church. You fail again.

7. The Orange Shit Gibbon cheated on each of his wives. He publicly boasted of grabbing Women "By The Pussy". He perved out on a 10-Year Old Girl.

9. The Orange Face Diaper Don is Con Artist. He steal money every fucking day. You fail again.

10. The Orange Shit Stain fucks any woman he can get. He wants to fuck his daughter. He fucked Stormy Daniels when Melania was pregnant with Baron. You fail again. Do NOT preach of values, when your guy is an amoral shit pile and you vote for him regardless.

 

[irosie91]

there are cowards to reference, in that light 91 is correct moses should not be included -

those others including moses are liars, not any of them have conversed w/ the heavens above what all other beings on planet earth have accomplished and their references in those books are a deliberate distortion of the truth as many of those distortions are the works of crucifiers.

revisions is the means to reverse the march to armageddon ... is why such is not found in the christian bible - the triumph of good, the heavenly religion of antiquity.

huh?