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the religions of servitude and denial ...
have always been a plague upon humanity, time for their fool hardy ways is over - 91.
Zone1 God's Ten Commandments Must Be Kept
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the religions of servitude and denial ...
have always been a plague upon humanity, time for their fool hardy ways is over - 91.
Cool it breezie---you weren't there
In my opinion, if you understand and follow Jesus Christ's two most important teachings - both taken from the Old Testament - then you would by default follow the 10 Commandments.
PART 1:"Love God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind and with all your strength."
PART 2: "Love Your Neighbor As Yourself"
1. Thou shalt not have any other gods before God. - PART 1
2. Thou shalt not make yourself an idol. PART 1
3. Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain. PART 1
4. Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it Holy. PART 1
5. Honor your Father and Mother. PART 1 and PART 2
6. Thou shalt not murder. PART 1 and PART 2
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. PART 2
8. Thou shalt not steal. PART 2
9. Thou shalt not testify or bear false witness against your neighbor. PART 2
10. Thou shalt not covet. PART 2.
IN MY HUMBLE OPINION:
Most of the commandments are relatively straight forward. That said, the meaning of certain words/phrases has evolved over the years.
We can begin with #2. In the days that they were written, people would make "idols" out of wood - specifically called "Asherah" poles - and other objects such as "The Golden Calf" and so forth. They would worship these objects as if they were "gods" themselves. That's why older translations specify not to make "objects, etc".
Although the worship of "objects" as 'gods' can happen in smaller cults and in the occult - the vast majority of "worshiping objects" among most major religions no longer occurs. What has happened over the course of time is that people begin to "Idolize" - such things as political parties, celebrities, games, philosophies, etc - and form "ideologies" that could be considered "false idols" - these are the "idols" of the modern day world.
#4 "The Sabbath".
In the days that the commandments were written, "The Sabbath" was the one day of the entire week all people were given a "break" from working - including servants, slaves, etc. Over the years, the day of the week has changed, depending on what religious sect you follow. The importance of "honoring the Sabbath" is taking time - whenever possible - to honor God, Creation and one another - to take time to self reflect, spend time with loved ones, etc - that is what the Sabbath has become. Some people are fortunate enough to be able to do that on a specific day of every week. Others, on the other hand, because of work, etc may not be afforded that same luxury - but yet will honor God, Creation, one another, whenever they have a day off - in my humble opinion, that "could" be considered "honoring the Sabbath".
#7 - Adultery - when it was written, men could marry multiple wives, divorce them, marry more wives, etc and not "commit adultery" while if any of the wives the man had divorced would remarry, etc - they would have "committed adultery". So obviously that has also changed over the years. The most modern translation (and it varies depending on religious sect) is if a married couple becomes divorced because a spouse is unfaithful to the other, that could be considered adultery - but it would be on a case per case basis, imo - a lot of things can happen in a marriage nowadays - it's really not that simple anymore. That's the way I understand it but as I said, depending on your belief, that can vary. The gift of repentance and being able to "forgive one another" could also go a long way with this, imo.
One should keep in mind that although the ten commandments are "spiritual" in nature, they were written primarily to govern the Israelites in the ancient physical world. Obviously, the majority of them are simple, straightforward and should be followed to this day. But there are a few (as I mentioned) that have evolved over the years in the physical world world and the majority of them can be summed up "spiritually" by Loving God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength and by loving your neighbor as yourself.
PART 1:"Love God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind and with all your strength."
PART 2: "Love Your Neighbor As Yourself"
1. Thou shalt not have any other gods before God. - PART 1
2. Thou shalt not make yourself an idol. PART 1
3. Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain. PART 1
4. Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it Holy. PART 1
5. Honor your Father and Mother. PART 1 and PART 2
6. Thou shalt not murder. PART 1 and PART 2
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. PART 2
8. Thou shalt not steal. PART 2
9. Thou shalt not testify or bear false witness against your neighbor. PART 2
10. Thou shalt not covet. PART 2.
IN MY HUMBLE OPINION:
Most of the commandments are relatively straight forward. That said, the meaning of certain words/phrases has evolved over the years.
We can begin with #2. In the days that they were written, people would make "idols" out of wood - specifically called "Asherah" poles - and other objects such as "The Golden Calf" and so forth. They would worship these objects as if they were "gods" themselves. That's why older translations specify not to make "objects, etc".
Although the worship of "objects" as 'gods' can happen in smaller cults and in the occult - the vast majority of "worshiping objects" among most major religions no longer occurs. What has happened over the course of time is that people begin to "Idolize" - such things as political parties, celebrities, games, philosophies, etc - and form "ideologies" that could be considered "false idols" - these are the "idols" of the modern day world.
#4 "The Sabbath".
In the days that the commandments were written, "The Sabbath" was the one day of the entire week all people were given a "break" from working - including servants, slaves, etc. Over the years, the day of the week has changed, depending on what religious sect you follow. The importance of "honoring the Sabbath" is taking time - whenever possible - to honor God, Creation and one another - to take time to self reflect, spend time with loved ones, etc - that is what the Sabbath has become. Some people are fortunate enough to be able to do that on a specific day of every week. Others, on the other hand, because of work, etc may not be afforded that same luxury - but yet will honor God, Creation, one another, whenever they have a day off - in my humble opinion, that "could" be considered "honoring the Sabbath".
#7 - Adultery - when it was written, men could marry multiple wives, divorce them, marry more wives, etc and not "commit adultery" while if any of the wives the man had divorced would remarry, etc - they would have "committed adultery". So obviously that has also changed over the years. The most modern translation (and it varies depending on religious sect) is if a married couple becomes divorced because a spouse is unfaithful to the other, that could be considered adultery - but it would be on a case per case basis, imo - a lot of things can happen in a marriage nowadays - it's really not that simple anymore. That's the way I understand it but as I said, depending on your belief, that can vary. The gift of repentance and being able to "forgive one another" could also go a long way with this, imo.
One should keep in mind that although the ten commandments are "spiritual" in nature, they were written primarily to govern the Israelites in the ancient physical world. Obviously, the majority of them are simple, straightforward and should be followed to this day. But there are a few (as I mentioned) that have evolved over the years in the physical world world and the majority of them can be summed up "spiritually" by Loving God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength and by loving your neighbor as yourself.
Who did they warn? Can you provide "proof" of this warning?
Please provide the ancient text or scroll where it is written that Jesus stated anyone should be "severely lashed"
(These are honest questions - the same questions you ask of others)
Are you 100% certain that Moses had no contact with a "higher power"? Not in Spirit or Physical?
Be careful of what you answer here.
I empathize with the proper treatment of all animals - livestock, pets and in nature. All living beings deserve their just treatment and respect.
Although I must confess that if I see a roach, I will likely crush it - They're just too fast to try to capture and release. But other than that (and ants when I was younger) I'll do the best I can to preserve life.
In my opinion:
Every soul is judged - some may not realize it while others will - but every soul is judged. And "judgement" isn't what most people think. It's a (nearly) automatic process - "nearly" because some souls may have "advocates" and so forth. Not willing or able to go into more detail but the afterlife and the life to come does not only include "Heaven or Hades". I'll leave it at that.
As far as "evil" being "transformed" into one being or another - no, doesn't work that way.
But I assure you, human hosts (as well as most mammals, many other animals) can, without question, become influenced and subjected to spiritual control.
Last I heard, Hades made some magnificent strides. It's not so bad anymore. Now the pit - that's a different story.
The same people you are claiming to have saved "Noah and his descendants" are the same people you are so eager to damn.
Why is that?
Is it because you eventually "gave up" on those same people?
Well....Moses didn't.
And either did Jesus The Christ.
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- prove otherwise, use your eyewitnesses for example ... abraham and moses are liars, their congregations equally culpable for their self serving deceptions - false commandments, hereditary idolatry ...
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really, they warned by their heavenly religion to triumph over evil, all those living at that time - proof is they who disobeyed were all drowned.
those others including noah were not exactly exemplary either however humanity was given a second chance through them - jesus was the reiteration of their religion, his crucifixion was the unraveling of what the heavens meant to accomplish.
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they deemed their creation upon completion a - sabbath - to keep holy ...
good luck christian.
I asked you to show proof of your statements - you cannot, because by your own accord, your religion of antiquity was spoken and/or communicated and never written down, yes?
As far as the rest -- I do not necessarily disagree - many of the ancient religions may have been misunderstood by the leaders at the time - Sumer, Babylon, Egypt, etc. But that does not mean everyone under those civilizations abused the teachings - nor were they aware if they did. They were simply following what they were taught - what many of the 'gods' 'avatars' angels' and so forth taught them. Over the course of time, the teachings became bloated with laws in order to govern civilization. But again, that does not mean the people are guilty of something they truly believed was "correct" at the time - and still do.
The basis of the vast majority of religions teach "The Golden Rule" and "To live in a way that is within harmony with one another and the world".
Seems like an oversimplification, no?
Were there "wars in heaven"? Why?
And lest you forget, life finds a way....
Chernobyl after the nuclear meltdown:
Chernobyl Only 30 years later:
This is the miracle of God's creation - the world - this Earth - the perfect ecosystem to sustain life for Ages - whether humankind is a part of it - or not.
Humankind does and has done enough to determine whether or not we would like to continue to live in this "Earthly Paradise" - What we will do from this point forward will determine the destiny of this world - "The Heavens" need not worry - no need for floods or other "Apocalyptic" events - we are at the point that if we do not take the right path, we will succumb to our own self-inflicted, apocalyptic event/events.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
The creation - and mankind preserving, respecting and adoring the creation.
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is spoken ...
from the time of a&e to the present day ... as the heavenly path to free ones spirit, enabling judgement - and admission to the everlasting.
the golden rule w/ a goal.
"Enabling judgement" - and who does that benefit?
You repeatedly say, "Admission to the Everlasting" - but fail to mention "Admission to the Everlasting" does not mean "Eternal Life" - you have stated it.
Why the deception?
What's it to you if some have the benefit of advocates that may prevent and/or alleviate their "judgement"?
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Rabbi David Wolpe has said that the Bible's description of the Exodus is not how it actually happened, if it happened at all. Wolpe told his congregants at Sinai Temple in Westwood that almost every modern archeologist who has studied the Exodus agrees with this.
However, other rabbis have argued that the Exodus did happen, including:
Rabbi Joshua Berman
Berman suggests that starting with Egyptian sources and looking for references to them in the Bible shows that the Israelites were in Egypt.
Most mainstream scholars do not accept the biblical Exodus account as history, and most agree that the stories were written centuries after the apparent setting. There is also no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt.
Rabbi David Wolpe has said that the Bible's description of the Exodus is not how it actually happened, if it happened at all. Wolpe told his congregants at Sinai Temple in Westwood that almost every modern archeologist who has studied the Exodus agrees with this.
However, other rabbis have argued that the Exodus did happen, including:
Rabbi Joshua Berman
Berman suggests that starting with Egyptian sources and looking for references to them in the Bible shows that the Israelites were in Egypt.
Most mainstream scholars do not accept the biblical Exodus account as history, and most agree that the stories were written centuries after the apparent setting. There is also no indication that the Israelites ever lived in Ancient Egypt.
The Pentateuch was written 800 years after the death of Moses.
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that is correct - surly in time there will be new challenges for the spirits progression from novice to godliness ...
becoming a stone is not eternal life ...
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