Ex-Informant Accused of Lying About Bidens Said He Had Russian Contacts

[Procrustes Stretched]

Great headline: "Ex-Informant Accused of Lying About Bidens Said He Had Russian Contacts"

Reminds me that Muller said Trump and others were misrepresenting what he found in the way of dealings with Russia.

We always seem to come back to Russia, with the Trump people/Biden haters.

Prove me wrong, if you disagree.

real news org: Ex-Informant Accused of Lying About Bidens Said He Had Russian Contacts

Federal prosecutors portrayed the former informant, Alexander Smirnov, 43, as a serial liar incapable of telling the truth about even the most basic details of his own life.

A former F.B.I. informant accused of making false bribery claims about President Biden and his son Hunter — which were widely publicized by Republicans — claimed to have been fed information by Russian intelligence, according to a court filing on Tuesday.

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In the memo, prosecutors portrayed the former informant, Alexander Smirnov, 43, as a serial liar incapable of telling the truth about even the most basic details of his own life. But Mr. Smirnov told federal investigators that “officials associated with Russian intelligence were involved in passing a story” about Hunter Biden.

Those disclosures, including Mr. Smirnov’s unverifiable claim that he met with Russian intelligence officials as recently as three months ago, made him a flight risk and endangered national security, Justice Department officials said. Mr. Smirnov had been held in custody in Las Vegas, where he has lived since 2022, since his arrest last week.

 

[MisterBeale]

". . . He was nominated by President Donald Trump to be United States Attorney for the United States District Court for the District of Delaware, and was retained by President Joe Biden. He has served in that office since February 22, 2018.[1]. . ."

David C. Weiss - Wikipedia

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[Mac1958]

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/20/1232789953/alexander-smirnov-fbi-informant-biden-hunter-ukraine

No surprise, of course, if the reports are correct. From the article:

The former FBI informant charged with fabricating claims about a bribery scheme involving Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company has "extensive" contacts with Russian intelligence agencies, according to the Justice Department.

Federal prosecutors also say in a new court filing that Alexander Smirnov admitted to authorities after he was arrested that "officials associated with Russian intelligence were involved in passing a story" about President Biden's son, Hunter Biden.

Smirnov, a longtime FBI informant, was arrested last week and charged with making false statements and creating a false and fictitious record.

This won't matter to the faithful, of course, and it will be called "fake news". Or maybe Smirnov actually works for George Soros. Or Hillary. Anyone but PUTIN.

 

[excalibur]

The guy was an FBI informant, paid informant, for years. Congress only used what the FBI said they had vetted from Smirnov.

And this has zero effect on prosecuting Hunter.

Also, Smirnov was released on a personal recognizance bond.

And from the OP:

In his detention memo, Smirnov's attorneys argued that the FBI had known of Smirnov's alleged conduct for years, "yet took no steps to end his cooperation, seize his passports, or prosecute him for anything."​

 

[excalibur]

Revelation That an FBI Informant Has Been Indicted Doesn't Affect the Biden Investigation In the Least

Nope, the investigation into the Biden Crime Family is not impacted. Of course, that is what the Democrats and the MSM want you to believe. But it ain't so. In fact, it makes the FBI look even more suspicious, if that's possible, by their assurances over Smirnov. House Oversight Committee...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[struth]

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/20/1232789953/alexander-smirnov-fbi-informant-biden-hunter-ukraine

No surprise, of course, if the reports are correct. From the article:

The former FBI informant charged with fabricating claims about a bribery scheme involving Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company has "extensive" contacts with Russian intelligence agencies, according to the Justice Department.

Federal prosecutors also say in a new court filing that Alexander Smirnov admitted to authorities after he was arrested that "officials associated with Russian intelligence were involved in passing a story" about President Biden's son, Hunter Biden.

Smirnov, a longtime FBI informant, was arrested last week and charged with making false statements and creating a false and fictitious record.

This won't matter to the faithful, of course, and it will be called "fake news". Or maybe Smirnov actually works for George Soros. Or Hillary. Anyone but PUTIN.

Simply from reading his name one could tell he had Russian ties.

The fact he was a trusted paid russian informant, well that was also a sign he had russian ties

The fact he provided evidence against xiden…well that’s a obvious sign why the demafacist have decided to prosecute him

 

[Mac1958]

Simply from reading his name one could tell he had Russian ties.

The fact he was a trusted paid russian informant, well that was also a sign he had russian ties

The fact he provided evidence against xiden…well that’s a obvious sign why the demafacist have decided to prosecute him

He admitted to lying. He made the "evidence" up.

I guess you missed that part. Or, more likely, you don't care.

 

[Mac1958]

At what point did these people stop caring if something is actually real or not?

How in the world did Trump do this to them?

 

[forkup]

At what point did these people stop caring if something is actually real or not?

How in the world did Trump do this to them?

Sunk cost fallacy.

In order to be a Trump supporter you truly had to give up adherence to a lot of principles. This in order to "own the libs". Trump made the people they hate mad, so Trump is good.

The problem is that the more you make that bargain, the harder it becomes to find justifications, to the point that they now have kind have given up on reality.

They perceive it as a choice between acknowledging reality and say that they've been wrong all along.

Or simply don't. And hold on to their identity.

 

[Mac1958]

Sunk cost fallacy.

In order to be a Trump supporter you truly had to give up adherence to a lot of principles. This in order to "own the libs". Trump made the people they hate mad, so Trump is good.

The problem is that the more you make that bargain, the harder it becomes to find justifications, to the point that they now have kind have given up on reality.

They perceive it as a choice between acknowledging reality and say that they've been wrong all along.

Or simply don't. And hold on to their identity.

...and the fact that this has become about far more than politics for them makes it even worse, and more difficult to give up.

 

[Hellokitty]

At what point did these people stop caring if something is actually real or not?

How in the world did Trump do this to them?

We stopped caring when no one was held accountable for the FBI/CIA/DOJ Russia hoax.

 

[Mac1958]

We stopped caring when no one was held accountable for the FBI/CIA/DOJ Russia hoax.

So I was right. Good.

 

[justoffal]

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/20/1232789953/alexander-smirnov-fbi-informant-biden-hunter-ukraine

No surprise, of course, if the reports are correct. From the article:

The former FBI informant charged with fabricating claims about a bribery scheme involving Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company has "extensive" contacts with Russian intelligence agencies, according to the Justice Department.

Federal prosecutors also say in a new court filing that Alexander Smirnov admitted to authorities after he was arrested that "officials associated with Russian intelligence were involved in passing a story" about President Biden's son, Hunter Biden.

Smirnov, a longtime FBI informant, was arrested last week and charged with making false statements and creating a false and fictitious record.

This won't matter to the faithful, of course, and it will be called "fake news". Or maybe Smirnov actually works for George Soros. Or Hillary. Anyone but PUTIN.

Wake up spunky....the Russians have been here since the 60's....the Chinese longer.

 

[Hellokitty]

So I was right. Good.

We learned from this guy.

 

[forkup]

...and the fact that this has become about far more than politics for them makes it even worse, and more difficult to give up.

Exactly. It's no about politics or principles. It's about identity.

 

[Mac1958]

We learned from this guy.

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Yes, Reid's lies about Romney, and then admitting them, was one of the shittiest things I've seen from a politician.

And you "learned" from this. You're no better than those you despise.

And this is why we're on the precipice. It's a race to the bottom, and we're almost there.

 

[kyzr]

A solid FBI informant for years, is now a Russian asset?
I'm waiting for Comer to say that the money trail via bank records confirms Smirnov's story.
Either the Biden;s took a provable $5,000,000 bribe or they didn't.

 

[struth]

He admitted to lying. He made the "evidence" up.

I guess you missed that part. Or, more likely, you don't care.

I did, can you quote that part of the article

 

[justoffal]

Sunk cost fallacy.

In order to be a Trump supporter you truly had to give up adherence to a lot of principles. This in order to "own the libs". Trump made the people they hate mad, so Trump is good.

The problem is that the more you make that bargain, the harder it becomes to find justifications, to the point that they now have kind have given up on reality.

They perceive it as a choice between acknowledging reality and say that they've been wrong all along.

Or simply don't. And hold on to their identity.

Giving up on reality is a forgone conclusion with any partisan. The ludicrous notion that one side or one party owns all the evil is the way those who pull the puppet strings for all partisans keep firm control of the clueless masses. This includes you.

Despite your intellectual condescencion which you somehow imagine places you in the spectator's box you have described not only your opponents but also yourself with your self adulating cleverness.

Jo

 

[Grumblenuts]

We learned from this guy.

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Romney's still a dick. Reid's dead.