EV's are starting to cost more to recharge than filling up an ICE vehicle

[Captain Caveman]

I heard in the news a few months ago that it was only 1p per mile cheaper to charge an EV compared to fuelling up your ICE vehicle. This depended on which charging point you used. Looks like that this has now flipped, depending on how you charge, circumstances etc.. an EV costs more to recharge than refueling an ICE vehicle.

There are some interesting points in the article, but the pro-EVer's rhetoric is beginning to fall apart. They've always cost more to buy and they're beginning to cost more to recharge. Over a third can't charge a car at home and are therefore subjected to the higher charge point costs (if you can find one, and find one working). And road tax for an EV is on the way in 2025 for those EV's registered after 2017.

We've endured the EVer's rhetoric for a few years now, despite the warnings from the adults. "We told you so" is nearly upon us. And as we approach the 2030 deadline, EV's will burn your pocket in the name of trying to reduce your carbon footprint by 17% to 30% towards a cause that was going to wipe mankind out by the year 2000.

Petrol cars beat electric on long distance due to public charging cost

Pricing structures at national charging networks mean that fees can be three times more than refuelling with fossil fuels on a mile-for-mile basis, given the greater ranges of petrol and diesel cars.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[pknopp]

And? It cost more to fill up a car that requires premium than regular also. It costs far more to fill up a vehicle with diesel than gas also.

If you don't like certain options, don't opt for them.

 

[ReinyDays]

It's much cheaper to charge an EV here than fill with gasoline ... I'm guessing UK folks can be trusted to dispense gasoline safely ... because that's not the case here, so add the cost of trained professionals to do the actual pumping ... we're allowed to way overcharge Californians for our hydro-power, so that makes electricity all but unmetered ...

If UK is filthy with fossil fuels, they should burn them ... climate change means Scotland will be warmer ... and that should make the Scots easier to deal with ... or maybe not ... who knows ...

 

[sparky]

~S~

 

[Captain Caveman]

It's much cheaper to charge an EV here than fill with gasoline ... I'm guessing UK folks can be trusted to dispense gasoline safely ... because that's not the case here, so add the cost of trained professionals to do the actual pumping ... we're allowed to way overcharge Californians for our hydro-power, so that makes electricity all but unmetered ...

If UK is filthy with fossil fuels, they should burn them ... climate change means Scotland will be warmer ... and that should make the Scots easier to deal with ... or maybe not ... who knows ...

Try reading the article.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

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[Mac-7]

And? It cost more to fill up a car that requires premium than regular also. It costs far more to fill up a vehicle with diesel than gas also.

If you don't like certain options, don't opt for them.

Start by removing all the government tax giveaways for EV buyers

 

[Captain Caveman]

If UK is filthy with fossil fuels, they should burn them ... climate change means Scotland will be warmer ... and that should make the Scots easier to deal with ... or maybe not ... who knows ...

Oil consumption per capita. The USA 29,119 kWh, the UK 10,305 kWh.

Looks like the USA are nearly 3 times as fossil fuel filthy than the UK, bozo.

 

[pknopp]

Start by removing all the government tax giveaways for EV buyers

And oil subsidies?

Fossil Fuels Received $5.9 Trillion In Subsidies in 2020, Report Finds

e360.yale.edu

I'm all for ending it all.

 

[Mac-7]

And oil subsidies?

Fossil Fuels Received $5.9 Trillion In Subsidies in 2020, Report Finds

e360.yale.edu

I'm all for ending it all.

I see that radical greenies have taken over the IMF

The “implicit” subsidies they conjure up in the report are imaginary

 

[pknopp]

I see that radical greenies have taken over the IMF

The “implicit” subsidies they conjure up in the report are imaginary

There is nothing imaginary about them.

Search for Superfund Sites Where You Live | US EPA

 

[ReinyDays]

Try reading the article.

I did ... how does that change the cost of electricity in the UK? ... there's no such thing as long distance driving in the UK ... Edinburgh is closer to London than I am to commercial air service ... 5 hour drive to PDX long term parking ...

EVs makes sense some places ... not all ... the article doesn't explain how gas is distributed in the UK, so piss poor journalism ... why did you ask me to read it? ...

 

[KissMy]

I see that radical greenies have taken over the IMF

The “implicit” subsidies they conjure up in the report are imaginary

The bipartisan infrastructure bill passed by the Senate last month would allocate more than $4 billion for plugging and remediating abandoned oil wells.

Who does the government pay for plugging and remediating abandoned oil wells??? They pay our tax money to the big oil companies who caused the disaster!

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Which kind of ICE vehicle are you talking about????

 

[Mac-7]

T

There is nothing imaginary about them.

Search for Superfund Sites Where You Live | US EPA

Thats serious

What they dont tell you is that Nature will clean up those sites in her own good time

One on the list was on use from 1920 to 1994

We have learned a lot about clean operations since then

 

[ReinyDays]

Oil consumption per capita. The USA 29,119 kWh, the UK 10,305 kWh.

Looks like the USA are nearly 3 times as fossil fuel filthy than the UK, bozo.

The United States is worst of all ... the cost of being richer than you ...

The UK is no bigger than an American State, the difference is Rich American States help their Poor brethren ... the UK stands idly by and watches the Poor States be brutalized and raped ... California helps Alabama, UK laughs at Bessarabia ... evil bastards ...

 

[pknopp]

T

Thats serious

What they dont tell you is that Nature will clean up those sites in her own good time

One on the list was on use from 1920 to 1994

We have learned a lot about clean operations since then

You are not an honorable poster.

 

[Mac-7]

Who does the government pay for plugging and remediating abandoned oil wells???

Thats a good question

Are you aware that even if all the cars are electric we will still need oil?

 

[pknopp]

Thats a good question

Are you aware that even if all the cars are electric we will still need oil?

Which will never excuse the taxpayers being on the hook for the messes the oil companies make.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I did ... how does that change the cost of electricity in the UK? ... there's no such thing as long distance driving in the UK ... Edinburgh is closer to London than I am to commercial air service ... 5 hour drive to PDX long term parking ...

EVs makes sense some places ... not all ... the article doesn't explain how gas is distributed in the UK, so piss poor journalism ... why did you ask me to read it? ...

Depends on your charge point, as in the article. Even if you charge at home, what electric tariff are you on because there are literally hundreds upon hundreds, so that cost greatly varies.

The article is more specific to those 40% who can't charge at home, and more specific to the rapid public chargers. Even if you can charge at home, a circumstance may happen where you have to use a costly charge point, just like having to buy fuel at a motorway service station due to poor planning.

So it's the start where charging can and does cost you more. The government will stop subsidizing electric by April, so the cost of electric increases. And as we all know, renewables increase the cost of electric, and as more turbines etc.. are implemented, you will find that the gap between electric and petrol/diesel evaporate.

I've not researched it, but I'll guess that the over riding factor people consider the most when motoring is cost. I would say carbon footprint priority is way down the list. This choice is being eroded because EV's are so fantastic, they have to be legislated onto the people.