Your "official Hawaii document" is WORTHLESS and doesn't mean shit in a court of law. It's just a note from one person saying another person claims something! You are less than stupid, fool, you are too bad a liar to be an accident. But please admit you really think your JPEG proves anything because I want to sell you a few acres of land in Florida!
If course it did.Ever check to see that in every election the State of Hawaii isn't 100% BLUE? Frankly, I don't care what you think or believe. We have crossed this topic before, so this is no new claim by me. I've offered you the truth, FWIW as much as is possible on a social network, but I won't violate professional confidences by giving you the forensic examiner's name because if a bunch of you loons started looking his website up and bothering him, he'd never forgive me. But I know what I know.
Because they're telling you just what you want to believe. You site the government here as an unimpeachable source in this case even when a day from now, you will be lambasting 15 other government sources (be they the White House, Senate or some other institutions) as malarkey and fake news or something else, dismissing them entirely because they report something that doesn't fit into your stupid agenda. You have no answer for why it took the State of Hawaii to release a secondary birth record---- if someone wanted to see my birth certificate, I'd just go downstairs, pull the original, photocopy it and send it off in 5 minutes. But you ignore the fact that it took many institutions YEARS in court to finally drag Obama kicking and screaming to finally produce a secondary record, even then, not even producing it for public examination and inspection, only a note from a third party saying that THEY looked at it, saw it, and are reporting it to another party that they determined its authenticity through unknown means who then issues a notice to you! And THAT you have 100% faith in.
I read a hundred people here almost daily reporting their "expertise" in subjects they have no direct knowledge of or involvement in, citing only TV shows, radio programs and internet articles, and 90% of the time, it is HOGWASH they just accept because it furthers their agenda or belief. On another thread, people have posted something like 75,000 posts about the Trump Administration, and though I haven't read one post there I would bet that NOT ONE TRUE ACTUAL FACT has been gleaned, shared or learned about Trump from all of that. Now here I come to report on something that I have actual direct knowledge of that adds to a thread------ not that I can prove it to any stranger over the internet without compromising certain things which I cannot do for legal and professional reasons. In that RARE case, someone with absolutely nothing to gain from reporting so actually volunteers such direct information here, and though I have nothing to gain out of it---- I don't expect paid, I don't expect any brownie points, pats on the back, kudos, awards, special status or anything else from this crowd, much less really care if you believe me or not, and a fool like you stands there trying to ridicule it while defending a source that has EVERYTHING to gain from lying to you and has the largest track record of lies, omissions and fabrications in the history of the planet Earth------ the government. And you wonder why so few people like me bother to post here much less come forward with any personal, direct information.
I knew going into this that I'd have only limited circumstantial evidence to back up my report, and that some would believe me while others not and would ridicule it and that's fine! But the next time you read down through the threads here and see only horseshit claim after horseshit claim with idiots barking insults back and forth on nonsense topics, just remember that is exactly what you WANT and make of forums like these. And you will probably be right in the middle of all of it.
Oh, and one last thing: from rare time to time I quote a favored quote of mine because it so much applies here:
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That quote was actually written a long long time ago by a man called Albert Osborn in his seminal book, his second edition on Questioned Documents. Mr. Osborn was speaking of experts citing unverified or unsubstantiated evidence as fact through inadequate means of scientific testing, but the thought still applies here. If you want to find a copy of the book in a library somewhere, and look through it, you will find the above quote. Just who was Albert Osborn? He is considered the grandfather of all modern scientific, court-qualified forensic document examination. Now, to the sagacious mind, that suggests something. For you, I expect that it will prove absolutely nothing at all.
Because they're telling you just what you want to believe. You site the government here as an unimpeachable source in this case even when a day from now, you will be lambasting 15 other government sources (be they the White House, Senate or some other institutions) as malarkey and fake news or something else, dismissing them entirely because they report something that doesn't fit into your stupid agenda. You have no answer for why it took the State of Hawaii to release a secondary birth record---- if someone wanted to see my birth certificate, I'd just go downstairs, pull the original, photocopy it and send it off in 5 minutes. But you ignore the fact that it took many institutions YEARS in court to finally drag Obama kicking and screaming to finally produce a secondary record, even then, not even producing it for public examination and inspection, only a note from a third party saying that THEY looked at it, saw it, and are reporting it to another party that they determined its authenticity through unknown means who then issues a notice to you! And THAT you have 100% faith in.
I read a hundred people here almost daily reporting their "expertise" in subjects they have no direct knowledge of or involvement in, citing only TV shows, radio programs and internet articles, and 90% of the time, it is HOGWASH they just accept because it furthers their agenda or belief. On another thread, people have posted something like 75,000 posts about the Trump Administration, and though I haven't read one post there I would bet that NOT ONE TRUE ACTUAL FACT has been gleaned, shared or learned about Trump from all of that. Now here I come to report on something that I have actual direct knowledge of that adds to a thread------ not that I can prove it to any stranger over the internet without compromising certain things which I cannot do for legal and professional reasons. In that RARE case, someone with absolutely nothing to gain from reporting so actually volunteers such direct information here, and though I have nothing to gain out of it---- I don't expect paid, I don't expect any brownie points, pats on the back, kudos, awards, special status or anything else from this crowd, much less really care if you believe me or not, and a fool like you stands there trying to ridicule it while defending a source that has EVERYTHING to gain from lying to you and has the largest track record of lies, omissions and fabrications in the history of the planet Earth------ the government. And you wonder why so few people like me bother to post here much less come forward with any personal, direct information.
I knew going into this that I'd have only limited circumstantial evidence to back up my report, and that some would believe me while others not and would ridicule it and that's fine! But the next time you read down through the threads here and see only horseshit claim after horseshit claim with idiots barking insults back and forth on nonsense topics, just remember that is exactly what you WANT and make of forums like these. And you will probably be right in the middle of all of it.
Oh, and one last thing: from rare time to time I quote a favored quote of mine because it so much applies here:
View attachment 165791
That quote was actually written a long long time ago by a man called Albert Osborn in his seminal book, his second edition on Questioned Documents. Mr. Osborn was speaking of experts citing unverified or unsubstantiated evidence as fact through inadequate means of scientific testing, but the thought still applies here. If you want to find a copy of the book in a library somewhere, and look through it, you will find the above quote. Just who was Albert Osborn? He is considered the grandfather of all modern scientific, court-qualified forensic document examination. Now, to the sagacious mind, that suggests something. For you, I expect that it will prove absolutely nothing at all.
You're asking me to accept your anonymous word of an anonymous 'friend' that you can't name whose 'testimony' you can't cite or proves even exists.......over the Registrar of Hawaii on Hawaii's vital documents.
Laughing....why? You've presented nothing. While the COLB alone is prima facie evidence in any court of law.
Because they're telling you just what you want to believe. You site the government here as an unimpeachable source in this case even when a day from now, you will be lambasting 15 other government sources (be they the White House, Senate or some other institutions) as malarkey and fake news or something else, dismissing them entirely because they report something that doesn't fit into your stupid agenda. You have no answer for why it took the State of Hawaii to release a secondary birth record---- if someone wanted to see my birth certificate, I'd just go downstairs, pull the original, photocopy it and send it off in 5 minutes. But you ignore the fact that it took many institutions YEARS in court to finally drag Obama kicking and screaming to finally produce a secondary record, even then, not even producing it for public examination and inspection, only a note from a third party saying that THEY looked at it, saw it, and are reporting it to another party that they determined its authenticity through unknown means who then issues a notice to you! And THAT you have 100% faith in.
I read a hundred people here almost daily reporting their "expertise" in subjects they have no direct knowledge of or involvement in, citing only TV shows, radio programs and internet articles, and 90% of the time, it is HOGWASH they just accept because it furthers their agenda or belief. On another thread, people have posted something like 75,000 posts about the Trump Administration, and though I haven't read one post there I would bet that NOT ONE TRUE ACTUAL FACT has been gleaned, shared or learned about Trump from all of that. Now here I come to report on something that I have actual direct knowledge of that adds to a thread------ not that I can prove it to any stranger over the internet without compromising certain things which I cannot do for legal and professional reasons. In that RARE case, someone with absolutely nothing to gain from reporting so actually volunteers such direct information here, and though I have nothing to gain out of it---- I don't expect paid, I don't expect any brownie points, pats on the back, kudos, awards, special status or anything else from this crowd, much less really care if you believe me or not, and a fool like you stands there trying to ridicule it while defending a source that has EVERYTHING to gain from lying to you and has the largest track record of lies, omissions and fabrications in the history of the planet Earth------ the government. And you wonder why so few people like me bother to post here much less come forward with any personal, direct information.
I knew going into this that I'd have only limited circumstantial evidence to back up my report, and that some would believe me while others not and would ridicule it and that's fine! But the next time you read down through the threads here and see only horseshit claim after horseshit claim with idiots barking insults back and forth on nonsense topics, just remember that is exactly what you WANT and make of forums like these. And you will probably be right in the middle of all of it.
Oh, and one last thing: from rare time to time I quote a favored quote of mine because it so much applies here:
View attachment 165791
That quote was actually written a long long time ago by a man called Albert Osborn in his seminal book, his second edition on Questioned Documents. Mr. Osborn was speaking of experts citing unverified or unsubstantiated evidence as fact through inadequate means of scientific testing, but the thought still applies here. If you want to find a copy of the book in a library somewhere, and look through it, you will find the above quote. Just who was Albert Osborn? He is considered the grandfather of all modern scientific, court-qualified forensic document examination. Now, to the sagacious mind, that suggests something. For you, I expect that it will prove absolutely nothing at all.
You're asking me to accept your anonymous word of an anonymous 'friend' that you can't name whose 'testimony' you can't cite or proves even exists.......over the Registrar of Hawaii on Hawaii's vital documents.
Laughing....why? You've presented nothing. While the COLB alone is prima facie evidence in any court of law.
Learn to READ, Derp. I'm not asking anything. I expect nothing. I don't give a flying crap what you think, believe or if you leap off a tall building!
Because they're telling you just what you want to believe. You site the government here as an unimpeachable source in this case even when a day from now, you will be lambasting 15 other government sources (be they the White House, Senate or some other institutions) as malarkey and fake news or something else, dismissing them entirely because they report something that doesn't fit into your stupid agenda. You have no answer for why it took the State of Hawaii to release a secondary birth record---- if someone wanted to see my birth certificate, I'd just go downstairs, pull the original, photocopy it and send it off in 5 minutes. But you ignore the fact that it took many institutions YEARS in court to finally drag Obama kicking and screaming to finally produce a secondary record, even then, not even producing it for public examination and inspection, only a note from a third party saying that THEY looked at it, saw it, and are reporting it to another party that they determined its authenticity through unknown means who then issues a notice to you! And THAT you have 100% faith in.
I read a hundred people here almost daily reporting their "expertise" in subjects they have no direct knowledge of or involvement in, citing only TV shows, radio programs and internet articles, and 90% of the time, it is HOGWASH they just accept because it furthers their agenda or belief. On another thread, people have posted something like 75,000 posts about the Trump Administration, and though I haven't read one post there I would bet that NOT ONE TRUE ACTUAL FACT has been gleaned, shared or learned about Trump from all of that. Now here I come to report on something that I have actual direct knowledge of that adds to a thread------ not that I can prove it to any stranger over the internet without compromising certain things which I cannot do for legal and professional reasons. In that RARE case, someone with absolutely nothing to gain from reporting so actually volunteers such direct information here, and though I have nothing to gain out of it---- I don't expect paid, I don't expect any brownie points, pats on the back, kudos, awards, special status or anything else from this crowd, much less really care if you believe me or not, and a fool like you stands there trying to ridicule it while defending a source that has EVERYTHING to gain from lying to you and has the largest track record of lies, omissions and fabrications in the history of the planet Earth------ the government. And you wonder why so few people like me bother to post here much less come forward with any personal, direct information.
I knew going into this that I'd have only limited circumstantial evidence to back up my report, and that some would believe me while others not and would ridicule it and that's fine! But the next time you read down through the threads here and see only horseshit claim after horseshit claim with idiots barking insults back and forth on nonsense topics, just remember that is exactly what you WANT and make of forums like these. And you will probably be right in the middle of all of it.
Oh, and one last thing: from rare time to time I quote a favored quote of mine because it so much applies here:
View attachment 165791
That quote was actually written a long long time ago by a man called Albert Osborn in his seminal book, his second edition on Questioned Documents. Mr. Osborn was speaking of experts citing unverified or unsubstantiated evidence as fact through inadequate means of scientific testing, but the thought still applies here. If you want to find a copy of the book in a library somewhere, and look through it, you will find the above quote. Just who was Albert Osborn? He is considered the grandfather of all modern scientific, court-qualified forensic document examination. Now, to the sagacious mind, that suggests something. For you, I expect that it will prove absolutely nothing at all.
You're asking me to accept your anonymous word of an anonymous 'friend' that you can't name whose 'testimony' you can't cite or proves even exists.......over the Registrar of Hawaii on Hawaii's vital documents.
Laughing....why? You've presented nothing. While the COLB alone is prima facie evidence in any court of law.
Learn to READ, Derp. I'm not asking anything. I expect nothing. I don't give a flying crap what you think, believe or if you leap off a tall building!
How did you forget the bushs
