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Maybe you should be whining to your cult leader, who is accusing the experts of lying.TDSers should take that advice themselves when they criticize every move Trump makes. The "he said this and now he says this" isn't lying.....unless Trump does it I guess.What are the health experts lying about? What is the truth?
trump doesn't say but retweets that accusation.
People can be wrong about things then when they get more information they can change their views but that's not lying. It's being wrong.
Most were wrong about the virus at first. Only because there wasn't much known about it at first. When more information was known, things changed. Which is what is supposed to happen when new information is known.
Only the stupid people don't change when they get new information.
As far as most people and I can see, trump is the liar here. Not the experts.
I work as a banker. I buy groceries. I am not following your logic. I am not even trying to be funny here. I am seriously not following your logic.No, not what i am saying. I am saying the path to preserving our economy goes through science. And i don't just mean "getting back to normal". I mean preserving the basic functions of our society, like banking and being able to buy groceries.Economics is science?
You made a false claim about me. I was setting you straight.I am talking about teachers. Why are you so conceited?No, dumbfuck. I actually do work. I was speaking to your massacre of that saying about cake.So you want to not work and get paid as if you are working. Indeed. You are a Democrat."You cannot have your cake and eat it too."Kids hang with other kids now. My kids hang in groups of 50+ constantly so that cat is out of the bag. Teachers that refuse to go back go on disability and we hire those that want to teach. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.
Dr. Fauci on what sets COVID-19 apart from past outbreaks | Fox News Video
Dr. Anthony Fauci sits down with 'Life, Liberty & Levin' to discuss how coronavirus compares to past outbreaks he's seen during his tenure.video.foxnews.com
The whole point is limiting contact.
Uh, yes you can.
Not what the data shows I'm sorry to say.Yes. My parents and my wife’s mom. Other than that IDK. We see the grandparents on a limited basis. Their friends grand parents and such I cannot speak for that. I believe if you’re under 85 and are not a diabetic or have some condition where your immune system is compromised then you have a 99% chance of not dying. It is not cynical it is real life. Beaches are jammed as are restaurants in MA.That's a bit cynical, isn't it? Well, the cat is out of the bag so let's not take any measures since it works for me. I have a question for you that you are free to disregard if you don't want to answer it. Do you or your kids come in contact with people in the high-risk groups? Grandparents maybe? These groups have a 7 to 10 percent chance of dying if they catch it. I certainly wouldn't wish this to happen but for me and I assume for you the chance that it does should convince you that taking measures, even painful ones are worth it.Kids hang with other kids now. My kids hang in groups of 50+ constantly so that cat is out of the bag. Teachers that refuse to go back go on disability and we hire those that want to teach. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.Dr. Fauci on what sets COVID-19 apart from past outbreaks | Fox News Video
Dr. Anthony Fauci sits down with 'Life, Liberty & Levin' to discuss how coronavirus compares to past outbreaks he's seen during his tenure.
The whole point is limiting contact.
View attachment 363017
Mortality Risk of COVID-19
Our interactive data visualizations that show the case fatality rate in each country are updated daily.ourworldindata.org
Starting at 50 the mortality rate starts to climb at 70 we are at best at 5 percent mortality
His national polling numbers on his handling of the pandemic = only 37% approval. It's a fail and on the way towards a total fail. Talk about wanting to be re-elected has got to be a lie. He isn't trying or those numbers would elevate, not plummet.Every time the mentally ill president opens his mouth these days, his poll numbers fall. Someone please follow him around with a microphone.
Down to 40.4% and cratering:
How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.projects.fivethirtyeight.com
Coincidence maybe... Did you look at the map?C'mon. So what does that have to do with A,T, and F and Covid 19 cases? Is it warmed up and hot as hell in the East and the West? Yes and the virus stats are increasing right along with. Trump said many times it would go away in warm places. Get it?Did Trump the Corrupt notice that it's getting hot and the virus is swamping the new ATF?What are the health experts lying about? What is the truth?
trump doesn't say but retweets that accusation.
People can be wrong about things then when they get more information they can change their views but that's not lying. It's being wrong.
Most were wrong about the virus at first. Only because there wasn't much known about it at first. When more information was known, things changed. Which is what is supposed to happen when new information is known.
Only the stupid people don't change when they get new information.
As far as most people and I can see, trump is the liar here. Not the experts.
That would be Arizona, Texas and Florida.
Map: Illegal immigrant population by state.
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www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/02/map_ille…
Although California has the highest number of illegal immigrants, Nevada has the largest proportion of illegal immigrants—7.2 percent of the state population and as much as 10 percent of its workforce. California and Texas follow at just under 7 percent of their populations, with New Jersey and Arizona rounding out the top five.
Who's complaining that rightwingers are fucking retarded? I'm just pointing out reality.You complain and swear a lot. You're an angry little man.Never forget -- rightwingers are fucking retarded.They do it now. Do you know any kids who are isolating? They exist I am sure but I dont know any.
Well, recently in the news, they were reporting on a summer camp where over 80 people, kids and counselors both, caught COVID 19. Everyone who was in attendance at that camp had an e-mail sent to their home telling the parents to put their kids in quarantine for the next 14 days.
At Least 82 Coronavirus Cases Linked To Missouri Sleepaway Camp
Kanakuk Kamps shut down its K-2 program after 41 campers, staff and counselors tested positive. That number has since doubled, according to county health officials.www.npr.org
And the Missouri camp isn't the only one that has closed due to kids catching the virus.......................
Alabama summer camp closes due to coronavirus exposure
A summer camp in the Wiregrass region of South Alabama has canceled all remaining weeks due to COVID-19 confirmations among campers and staff. The summer camp, Camp Victory, is located in Samson in Geneva County near Dothan.www.al.com
This is old news. But of course if you are someone who gets their news from the fakestream media (CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, NYT, WAPO etc) you probably haven't heard it.Fauci has admitted that he and Surgeon General Adams were lying about respirators and masks in order to deceive and manipulate the American public.People can be wrong about things then when they get more information they can change their views but that's not lying. It's being wrong.
OH GFY.
Post a link to that or STFU.
How is it a false claim?You made a false claim about me. I was setting you straight.I am talking about teachers. Why are you so conceited?No, dumbfuck. I actually do work. I was speaking to your massacre of that saying about cake.So you want to not work and get paid as if you are working. Indeed. You are a Democrat."You cannot have your cake and eat it too."Kids hang with other kids now. My kids hang in groups of 50+ constantly so that cat is out of the bag. Teachers that refuse to go back go on disability and we hire those that want to teach. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.Dr. Fauci on what sets COVID-19 apart from past outbreaks | Fox News Video
Dr. Anthony Fauci sits down with 'Life, Liberty & Levin' to discuss how coronavirus compares to past outbreaks he's seen during his tenure.
The whole point is limiting contact.
Uh, yes you can.
That was my point.Not what the data shows I'm sorry to say.Yes. My parents and my wife’s mom. Other than that IDK. We see the grandparents on a limited basis. Their friends grand parents and such I cannot speak for that. I believe if you’re under 85 and are not a diabetic or have some condition where your immune system is compromised then you have a 99% chance of not dying. It is not cynical it is real life. Beaches are jammed as are restaurants in MA.That's a bit cynical, isn't it? Well, the cat is out of the bag so let's not take any measures since it works for me. I have a question for you that you are free to disregard if you don't want to answer it. Do you or your kids come in contact with people in the high-risk groups? Grandparents maybe? These groups have a 7 to 10 percent chance of dying if they catch it. I certainly wouldn't wish this to happen but for me and I assume for you the chance that it does should convince you that taking measures, even painful ones are worth it.Kids hang with other kids now. My kids hang in groups of 50+ constantly so that cat is out of the bag. Teachers that refuse to go back go on disability and we hire those that want to teach. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.Dr. Fauci on what sets COVID-19 apart from past outbreaks | Fox News Video
Dr. Anthony Fauci sits down with 'Life, Liberty & Levin' to discuss how coronavirus compares to past outbreaks he's seen during his tenure.
The whole point is limiting contact.
View attachment 363017Mortality Risk of COVID-19
Our interactive data visualizations that show the case fatality rate in each country are updated daily.
Starting at 50 the mortality rate starts to climb at 70 we are at best at 5 percent mortality
Not for nothing, but your chart only shows the stats for S. Korea, Spain, China and Italy. Where are the stats on the virus here in the USA?
So now your opinion is fact? Seek professional help.Who's complaining that rightwingers are fucking retarded? I'm just pointing out reality.You complain and swear a lot. You're an angry little man.Never forget -- rightwingers are fucking retarded.They do it now. Do you know any kids who are isolating? They exist I am sure but I dont know any.
Well, recently in the news, they were reporting on a summer camp where over 80 people, kids and counselors both, caught COVID 19. Everyone who was in attendance at that camp had an e-mail sent to their home telling the parents to put their kids in quarantine for the next 14 days.
At Least 82 Coronavirus Cases Linked To Missouri Sleepaway Camp
Kanakuk Kamps shut down its K-2 program after 41 campers, staff and counselors tested positive. That number has since doubled, according to county health officials.
And the Missouri camp isn't the only one that has closed due to kids catching the virus.......................
Alabama summer camp closes due to coronavirus exposure
A summer camp in the Wiregrass region of South Alabama has canceled all remaining weeks due to COVID-19 confirmations among campers and staff. The summer camp, Camp Victory, is located in Samson in Geneva County near Dothan.
The virus doesn't see what you want it to. Am I correct?Coincidence maybe... Did you look at the map?C'mon. So what does that have to do with A,T, and F and Covid 19 cases? Is it warmed up and hot as hell in the East and the West? Yes and the virus stats are increasing right along with. Trump said many times it would go away in warm places. Get it?Did Trump the Corrupt notice that it's getting hot and the virus is swamping the new ATF?What are the health experts lying about? What is the truth?
trump doesn't say but retweets that accusation.
People can be wrong about things then when they get more information they can change their views but that's not lying. It's being wrong.
Most were wrong about the virus at first. Only because there wasn't much known about it at first. When more information was known, things changed. Which is what is supposed to happen when new information is known.
Only the stupid people don't change when they get new information.
As far as most people and I can see, trump is the liar here. Not the experts.
That would be Arizona, Texas and Florida.
Map: Illegal immigrant population by state.
View attachment 363041
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/02/map_ille…
Although California has the highest number of illegal immigrants, Nevada has the largest proportion of illegal immigrants—7.2 percent of the state population and as much as 10 percent of its workforce. California and Texas follow at just under 7 percent of their populations, with New Jersey and Arizona rounding out the top five.
Also, do you hold the so called "experts" accountable to the same degree as Trump?
Okay. Let me try again.I work as a banker. I buy groceries. I am not following your logic
I agree. Have we not slowed the spread? In MA our gyms are open. Restaurants are open. Just need pro sports to come back. We also need to live and there is some good news.Okay. Let me try again.I work as a banker. I buy groceries. I am not following your logic
If we don't follow the recommendations of scientists (which arise from scientific research), outbreaks can grow exponentially. Panic ensues, and there is a run on groceries. Now imagine outbreaks at, say, 3 of 4 grocery stores in a zip code. They are so severe that the stores cant even open, due to staffing. Now what happens at that last grocery store? Empty in a day. Now what happens the next day, when everyone in the zip code goes to the next zip code over to shop (where the grocery stores are already half empty, and maybe half of them are closed)? And then the day after that? After that?
This can get bad very quickly due to the exponential nature of outbreaks. So it is crucial to slow the spread of the virus.
The key is slowing the spread of the virus. That's how things will stay open.I hope the left will admit that schools and businesses will have to open eventually, and that there will not be a perfectly safe time to do it. We had people saying everyone was going to die, and then it turns out to have a low lethality rate. It didn't look good for the experts. Now we have people saying it is impossible for kids to go to school because, while they are not at much risk, they could be carriers. All of our super bright problem solvers can't figure out how to get a non at risk group, children and healthy people in general, to function while protecting the elderly and diabetic. Is this really impossible? I'd hope the left will also admit the damage to peoples lives during shutdowns is hurting people. It could be argued the shutdowns are hurting people worse than the virus. Maybe the next genius can figure out how to protect the small at risk group.
Not enough.I agree. Have we not slowed the spread?
You falsely claimed I don't want to work ... that's a lie. You also claimed I want to get paid for not working. That too is a lie. Now you pretend to not know you're lying.How is it a false claim?You made a false claim about me. I was setting you straight.I am talking about teachers. Why are you so conceited?No, dumbfuck. I actually do work. I was speaking to your massacre of that saying about cake.So you want to not work and get paid as if you are working. Indeed. You are a Democrat."You cannot have your cake and eat it too."Kids hang with other kids now. My kids hang in groups of 50+ constantly so that cat is out of the bag. Teachers that refuse to go back go on disability and we hire those that want to teach. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.Dr. Fauci on what sets COVID-19 apart from past outbreaks | Fox News Video
Dr. Anthony Fauci sits down with 'Life, Liberty & Levin' to discuss how coronavirus compares to past outbreaks he's seen during his tenure.
The whole point is limiting contact.
Uh, yes you can.
Not per the Governor in MA?Not enough.I agree. Have we not slowed the spread?
I said teachers not you. Are you a teacher? Why are you so conceited.You falsely claimed I don't want to work ... that's a lie. You also claimed I want to get paid for not working. That too is a lie. Now you pretend to not know you're lying.How is it a false claim?You made a false claim about me. I was setting you straight.I am talking about teachers. Why are you so conceited?No, dumbfuck. I actually do work. I was speaking to your massacre of that saying about cake.So you want to not work and get paid as if you are working. Indeed. You are a Democrat."You cannot have your cake and eat it too."Kids hang with other kids now. My kids hang in groups of 50+ constantly so that cat is out of the bag. Teachers that refuse to go back go on disability and we hire those that want to teach. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.Dr. Fauci on what sets COVID-19 apart from past outbreaks | Fox News Video
Dr. Anthony Fauci sits down with 'Life, Liberty & Levin' to discuss how coronavirus compares to past outbreaks he's seen during his tenure.
The whole point is limiting contact.
Uh, yes you can.
