Every Classroom Should Have Heavily Armed Teachers In It

[Big Bend Texas]

Your argument is so weak that you would accuse someone who has over 100 children (daughter, nieces, nephews, God children and children of cousins, my grandson is too young to be in school yet) in the American school system, of not caring about children being murdered in school.

You've already made it plain you don't care about the actual deaths, you just wont to use their dead bodies to further an anti gun agenda.

Spend 2-4 hours on the internet and you can learn how to crate far more death and destruction without a gun using nothing but items you can find in any Lowes, Home Depot or similar store.

Eliminate the guns and the next choices are explosives and incendiaries both of which are easy to manufacture at home.

You can't stop massacres by infringing on our rights.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

I'm not demonizing guns or wishing them out of existence you child. Neither do I think they're possessed. I think they make it easier for people intent on killing to kill easier because that's what they are designed to do. For that reason, if we want to lower the incidents of gun violence rather than constantly trying to perfect our response to gun violence, we should do what every other successful nation on earth does to lower incidents of gun violence. The logic couldn't be simpler.

Right, that's why you are so focused solely on guns.

 

[eagle1462010]

It's always another excuse. That's my point. You haven't been tested yet. What happens the day your volunteer is on the other side of the campus? How do you guarantee a volunteer teacher Ninja will always be in the right place at the right time to take a shooter out? The reality is you can't. Any insistence you can is fanfiction.

Who da fuck says that. Your projecting. No guarantees in life except getting older, paying taxes, and dying.

You arm some and hope it deters attacks and if a shooter comes some will not be defenseless and fight back.

Your side is take guns or nothing. An agenda. You dont cate about these children

 

[eagle1462010]

This is just another red herring. When was I ever arguing that guns were the only way to massacre children?

More red herrings. We don't need magic to wish away guns, we need a concerted effort to:

1. Ban the sale of all firearms in the country
2. Go aggressively after the people who violate that ban
3. Go aggressively after people who threaten people in person and online, determine whether they have access to firearms and charge them accordingly
4. Make firearm registration mandatory
5. Go aggressively after the people who violate that requirement and remove their guns
6. Ban guns in public
7. Go aggressively after the people who violate that and remove their guns
8. Make the reporting of stolen firearms mandatory
9. Go aggressively after the people who violate that law and remove their guns as well as the people who's guns were stolen due to negligence

Basically we go after gun ownership through attrition and by going after the most violent and negligent gun owners first and while we do that I have no problem with your plan of immediate response teacher ninjas but that can't be our solution to ending the frequency of mass shootings because it just isn't a solution at all.

Screw you.

 

[Curried Goats]

You've already made it plain you don't care about the actual deaths, you just wont to use their dead bodies to further an anti gun agenda.

Spend 2-4 hours on the internet and you can learn how to crate far more death and destruction without a gun using nothing but items you can find in any Lowes, Home Depot or similar store.

Eliminate the guns and the next choices are explosives and incendiaries both of which are easy to manufacture at home.

You can't stop massacres by infringing on our rights.

In the places they've eliminated guns they weren't replaced by mass bombings.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

In the places they've eliminated guns they weren't replaced by mass bombings.

We aren't any of those countries.

We are so different from Europe there can be no honest comparison.

You are living in a fantasy world.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

It's always another excuse. That's my point. You haven't been tested yet. What happens the day your volunteer is on the other side of the campus? How do you guarantee a volunteer teacher Ninja will always be in the right place at the right time to take a shooter out? The reality is you can't. Any insistence you can is fanfiction.

You are fabricating more bullshit. Never have I said anything about having only one volunteer much less on the other side of the campus,

The whole point is to have them in the buildings so they can immediately intervene.

Stop being so damned dishonest.

 

[Curried Goats]

We aren't any of those countries.

We are so different from Europe there can be no honest comparison.

You are living in a fantasy world.

What makes us so different other than our easy access to firearms?

 

[eagle1462010]

What makes us so different other than our easy access to firearms?

Shall not be infringed. And not punishing the innocent for the acts of the guilty.

Take a look at Europe. They can jail you for speaking your mind on social media. We dont accept that crap here.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

What makes us so different other than our easy access to firearms?

Size, population, geography, demography, culture and a 2,000mi unsecure border with a failed NARCO state with the highest murder rate in the western hemisphere for a start.

 

[Curried Goats]

Shall not be infringed. And not punishing the innocent for the acts of the guilty.

Take a look at Europe. They can jail you for speaking your mind on social media. We dont accept that crap here.

So in other words, our unwillingness to give up our guns.

 

[Curried Goats]

Size, population, geography, demography, culture and a 2,000mi unsecure border with a failed NARCO state with the highest murder rate in the western hemisphere for a start.

Every country has different sizes, populations, cultures and borders, you might as well claim we can never compare anything unless they're exactly alike, and then what would we need to compare them for? And yet dozens of countries with different borders and cultures and demographics across Europe and Asia manage not to have anywhere near the incidents of gun violence as we do.

 

[schmidlap]

You haven't and can't provide any empirical data on the subject.

None that you like, no. Your emotional dependence upon firearm permissiveness is not amenable to objective, empirical data.

If stringent gun control prevented these incidents there would have not been one in NY last month.

Sensible measures to prevent firearm fatalities do not eliminate them all. They reduce the frequency.

That Ar-15, the choice of mass killers, was legally purchased, but was illegally modified with a high-capacity magazine. Yes, criminals have been known to violate the law. That does not suggest we do away with laws.

There is no nation similar to the US on earth to compare us to either, not honestly anyhow.

If you are claiming that there is something special about the U.S. that results in so many more folks being killed by guns than in any other advanced democratic nation, what is it?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Every country has different sizes, populations, cultures and borders, you might as well claim we can never compare anything unless they're exactly alike, and then what would we need to compare them for? And yet dozens of countries with different borders and cultures and demographics across Europe and Asia manage not to have anywhere near the incidents of gun violence as we do.

European countries have very similar populations, cultures, and demography.

They are all virtually monocultural.

Most of Asia is under totalitarian Rule either under Russian or Chinese control.

There are no countries on either continent similar to the US. We are unique in the world.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

That Ar-15, the choice of mass killers, was legally purchased, but was illegally modified with a high-capacity magazine. Yes, criminals have been known to violate the law. That does not suggest we do away with laws.

You are talking out of your ass, the gun was not modified nor were the magazines. There are no magazine restrictions in Texas nor Federally.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

That Ar-15, the choice of mass killers,

"Assalut Weapons" are only used in about half of actual mass shootings, handguns make up most of the rest.

Again, you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

If you are claiming that there is something special about the U.S. that results in so many more folks being killed by guns than in any other advanced democratic nation, what is it?

Overall we are more prone to deadly violence that most of the civilized world particularly in our inner cities and particularly by one small group that makes up about 7% of the total population.

Black males are 4-7x more likely to commit violent crimes than the rest of the population.

 

[Curried Goats]

European countries have very similar populations, cultures, and demography.

They are all virtually monocultural.

Most of Asia is under totalitarian Rule either under Russian or Chinese control.

There are no countries on either continent similar to the US. We are unique in the world.

That is a hilariously ignorant claim. Singapore, Japan, Germany, Australia, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Canada... there is a lot of variation there and still significantly fewer instances of gun violence than us. What's different about our culture is that we have a culture that idolizes gun ownership and gun violence and gunfighter cosplay while at the same time not caring about poverty, racial inequities and mental health.

 

[eagle1462010]

That is a hilariously ignorant claim. Singapore, Japan, Germany, Australia, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Canada... there is a lot of variation there and still significantly fewer instances of gun violence than us. What's different about our culture is that we have a culture that idolizes gun ownership and gun violence and gunfighter cosplay while at the same time not caring about poverty, racial inequities and mental health.

They don't get a say here. End of discussion.

Shall not be infringed. Suck on it.

 

[Curried Goats]

They don't get a say here. End of discussion.

Shall not be infringed. Suck on it.

This is the White Wing, America... Fuck your dead kids, I have a right to guns because a piece of paper told me so, "suck on it". Doesn't get much more deplorable than that.