Even the government itself admitted in the 70's there was a conspiracy to kill JFK.

[mskafka]

I'm not sure whether or not this has already been posted:

Report of the Select Committee on Assassinations of the U.S. House of Representatives
Summary of Findings and Recommendations
Summary of Findings (from the National Archives)

1) Under 1:2-2---"Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that two gunmen fired at President John F. Kennedy. Other scientific evidence does not preclude the possibility of two gunmen firing at the President. Scientific evidence negates some specific conspiracy allegations."

2) "3. The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee is unable to identify the other gunman or the extent of the conspiracy."

Whether Oswald acted alone or not, is irrelevant. The motive, is what is relevant.

Namaste

Yes it has been posted and done to death.

The House Select committee was a temporary committee with a limited budget and limited time to operate.

This acoustic evidence was admitted at the eleventh hour of the committee shortly before it adjourned. Therefore it could not be properly debated. Only after the Committee adjourned was it discovered that this evidence was wrong simply because it was not recorded in Dealey plaza but actually at Parkland memorial hospital.

This was the only piece of evidence on which they based their finding of a probable conspiracy. Since it was wrong so is their finding..

The motive is not very relevant in this or any other murder case or investigation.

Like many victims Kennedy had many many enemies and all of them had motive ( including Oswald ). What is relevant is the evidence and no credible evidence supports a conspiracy.

Okay.

 

[mskafka]

The motive is not very relevant in this or any other murder case or investigation.

Now I've heard it all. You should probably rethink that statement.

 

[Bfgrn]

I'm not sure whether or not this has already been posted:

Report of the Select Committee on Assassinations of the U.S. House of Representatives
Summary of Findings and Recommendations
Summary of Findings (from the National Archives)

1) Under 1:2-2---"Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that two gunmen fired at President John F. Kennedy. Other scientific evidence does not preclude the possibility of two gunmen firing at the President. Scientific evidence negates some specific conspiracy allegations."

2) "3. The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee is unable to identify the other gunman or the extent of the conspiracy."

Whether Oswald acted alone or not, is irrelevant. The motive, is what is relevant.

Namaste

Yes it has been posted and done to death.

The House Select committee was a temporary committee with a limited budget and limited time to operate.

This acoustic evidence was admitted at the eleventh hour of the committee shortly before it adjourned. Therefore it could not be properly debated. Only after the Committee adjourned was it discovered that this evidence was wrong simply because it was not recorded in Dealey plaza but actually at Parkland memorial hospital.

This was the only piece of evidence on which they based their finding of a probable conspiracy. Since it was wrong so is their finding..

The motive is not very relevant in this or any other murder case or investigation.

Like many victims Kennedy had many many enemies and all of them had motive ( including Oswald ). What is relevant is the evidence and no credible evidence supports a conspiracy.

Where do you come up with these fairy tales?

Hey Einstein, PLEASE provide 'the 'motive' for someone to show up at the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City posing as Lee Harvey Oswald less than two months before the assassination?

The Mexico City Tapes

At 10 AM on the morning following the Kennedy assassination, President Lyndon Johnson and FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover discussed the state of the case over the telephone. In response to LBJ's question about "the visit to the Soviet Embassy in September," Hoover replied:

"No, that’s one angle that’s very confusing, for this reason—we have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet embassy, using Oswald’s name. That picture and the tape do not correspond to this man’s voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the Soviet embassy down there."

This message was conveyed later the same day in writing, in a memo from Hoover to the White House and the Secret Service Chief. Did this amazing discovery of an Oswald imposter, caught on tapped phone lines, launch the greatest manhunt in history? No, instead within 48 hours the entire story had been buried. The tape of the Johnson-Hoover call quoted from above has itself been erased; only a contemporaneous transcript remains.

 

[candycorn]

The motive is not very relevant in this or any other murder case or investigation.

Now I've heard it all. You should probably rethink that statement.

 

[mskafka]

One of Gerald Posner's disciples.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The motive is not very relevant in this or any other murder case or investigation.

Now I've heard it all. You should probably rethink that statement.

If this is a surprise you should rethink what you know about crime.

I do not need to re-think it my statemnet is quite accurate.

If one needs to solve a murder case motive will not be terribly important.

Once again when a person is murdered it is NORMAL for there to be multiple people who had motive to murder him. Therefroe what has studying the motive gotten you? A list.

It does not help you to narrow down the list because everyone on it has motive.

One motive is never greater than anothe rmotive either. In fact in murder it is common for the weakest or sillyest or strangest motive to be the one which drove the criminals to commit murder.

What is relevant is the evidence which tells us who committed the crime. The why is not nearly as important.

In of JFK the list of people with motive is a library of phone books. He was the president and like all presidents he made many enemies. Virtually anyone in the country who voted republican had a motive to shoot him. Oswald had motive as well.

In the end what does matter is that all of the evidence shows Oswald acted alone.

 

[Soupnazi630]

I'm not sure whether or not this has already been posted:

Report of the Select Committee on Assassinations of the U.S. House of Representatives
Summary of Findings and Recommendations
Summary of Findings (from the National Archives)

1) Under 1:2-2---"Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that two gunmen fired at President John F. Kennedy. Other scientific evidence does not preclude the possibility of two gunmen firing at the President. Scientific evidence negates some specific conspiracy allegations."

2) "3. The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee is unable to identify the other gunman or the extent of the conspiracy."

Whether Oswald acted alone or not, is irrelevant. The motive, is what is relevant.

Namaste

Yes it has been posted and done to death.

The House Select committee was a temporary committee with a limited budget and limited time to operate.

This acoustic evidence was admitted at the eleventh hour of the committee shortly before it adjourned. Therefore it could not be properly debated. Only after the Committee adjourned was it discovered that this evidence was wrong simply because it was not recorded in Dealey plaza but actually at Parkland memorial hospital.

This was the only piece of evidence on which they based their finding of a probable conspiracy. Since it was wrong so is their finding..

The motive is not very relevant in this or any other murder case or investigation.

Like many victims Kennedy had many many enemies and all of them had motive ( including Oswald ). What is relevant is the evidence and no credible evidence supports a conspiracy.

Where do you come up with these fairy tales?

Hey Einstein, PLEASE provide 'the 'motive' for someone to show up at the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City posing as Lee Harvey Oswald less than two months before the assassination?

The Mexico City Tapes

At 10 AM on the morning following the Kennedy assassination, President Lyndon Johnson and FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover discussed the state of the case over the telephone. In response to LBJ's question about "the visit to the Soviet Embassy in September," Hoover replied:

"No, that’s one angle that’s very confusing, for this reason—we have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet embassy, using Oswald’s name. That picture and the tape do not correspond to this man’s voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the Soviet embassy down there."

This message was conveyed later the same day in writing, in a memo from Hoover to the White House and the Secret Service Chief. Did this amazing discovery of an Oswald imposter, caught on tapped phone lines, launch the greatest manhunt in history? No, instead within 48 hours the entire story had been buried. The tape of the Johnson-Hoover call quoted from above has itself been erased; only a contemporaneous transcript remains.

Those were facts not fairy tales and no one went to mexico posing as Oswald he went himself.

The reason it appears to be more than one man is that the CIA was asked on the day of the assassination to present their photographs of Oswald at the CUban embassy.

The problem was that they did not know what he looked like his pictrure was not yet all over the papers.

Therefore they checked their records and found out WHEN he went to the embassy and pulled some photographs from a file which were taken at that time.

They then presented a picture of someone they assumed was Oswald.

It was nothing more than beauracratic error.

And it does not address in any way the facts that I posted which you call fairy tales.

 

[Soupnazi630]

One of Gerald Posner's disciples.

One of Oliver Stone's acolytes

 

[candycorn]

The motive is not very relevant in this or any other murder case or investigation.

Now I've heard it all. You should probably rethink that statement.

If this is a surprise you should rethink what you know about crime.

I do not need to re-think it my statemnet is quite accurate.

If one needs to solve a murder case motive will not be terribly important.

Once again when a person is murdered it is NORMAL for there to be multiple people who had motive to murder him. Therefroe what has studying the motive gotten you? A list.

It does not help you to narrow down the list because everyone on it has motive.

One motive is never greater than anothe rmotive either. In fact in murder it is common for the weakest or sillyest or strangest motive to be the one which drove the criminals to commit murder.

What is relevant is the evidence which tells us who committed the crime. The why is not nearly as important.

In of JFK the list of people with motive is a library of phone books. He was the president and like all presidents he made many enemies. Virtually anyone in the country who voted republican had a motive to shoot him. Oswald had motive as well.

In the end what does matter is that all of the evidence shows Oswald acted alone.

Yeah but...

I was just getting you ready for the retort that is sure to come.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Over 50 farts in a row from the sooper-sekret paid agent shill troll dupes since my last post here.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Over 50 farts in a row from the sooper-sekret paid agent shill troll dupes since my last post here.

Only from you

 

[Bfgrn]

Yes it has been posted and done to death.

The House Select committee was a temporary committee with a limited budget and limited time to operate.

This acoustic evidence was admitted at the eleventh hour of the committee shortly before it adjourned. Therefore it could not be properly debated. Only after the Committee adjourned was it discovered that this evidence was wrong simply because it was not recorded in Dealey plaza but actually at Parkland memorial hospital.

This was the only piece of evidence on which they based their finding of a probable conspiracy. Since it was wrong so is their finding..

The motive is not very relevant in this or any other murder case or investigation.

Like many victims Kennedy had many many enemies and all of them had motive ( including Oswald ). What is relevant is the evidence and no credible evidence supports a conspiracy.

Where do you come up with these fairy tales?

Hey Einstein, PLEASE provide 'the 'motive' for someone to show up at the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City posing as Lee Harvey Oswald less than two months before the assassination?

The Mexico City Tapes

At 10 AM on the morning following the Kennedy assassination, President Lyndon Johnson and FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover discussed the state of the case over the telephone. In response to LBJ's question about "the visit to the Soviet Embassy in September," Hoover replied:

"No, that’s one angle that’s very confusing, for this reason—we have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet embassy, using Oswald’s name. That picture and the tape do not correspond to this man’s voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the Soviet embassy down there."

This message was conveyed later the same day in writing, in a memo from Hoover to the White House and the Secret Service Chief. Did this amazing discovery of an Oswald imposter, caught on tapped phone lines, launch the greatest manhunt in history? No, instead within 48 hours the entire story had been buried. The tape of the Johnson-Hoover call quoted from above has itself been erased; only a contemporaneous transcript remains.

Those were facts not fairy tales and no one went to mexico posing as Oswald he went himself.

The reason it appears to be more than one man is that the CIA was asked on the day of the assassination to present their photographs of Oswald at the CUban embassy.

The problem was that they did not know what he looked like his pictrure was not yet all over the papers.

Therefore they checked their records and found out WHEN he went to the embassy and pulled some photographs from a file which were taken at that time.

They then presented a picture of someone they assumed was Oswald.

It was nothing more than beauracratic error.

And it does not address in any way the facts that I posted which you call fairy tales.

False. And you need to stop emoting and provide links to back up your false claims. And you need to get up to date...

Oswald, the CIA, and Mexico City

It was 1993, the 30th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination, when FRONTLINE first aired its documentary, “Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?” In that program FRONTLINE concluded, “What now seems certain is that the CIA is still covering up its contact with Lee Harvey Oswald.”

Now, 10 years later, much material has been made available to the American public which sheds light on what the CIA had been hiding for 40 years. This new information is the result of the U.S. Congress passing the 1993 “JFK Records Act,” which mandated the full release of all government files relating to the assassination of President Kennedy and created a civilian Assassination Records Review Board to oversee this process. By the time the Board’s work was completed in the late 1990s, 6 million pages of documents had been made available to the public in the National Archives.

Arguably, the most startling information so far brought to light by the release of these intelligence records is the CIA cover-up relating to Oswald’s visit to Mexico City.

Oswald was in Mexico City in late September and early October of 1963. During his one-week stay, he tried to obtain visas from the Cuban consulate and Soviet embassy. But intelligence documents released in 1999 establish that, after Oswald failed to get the visas, CIA intercepts showed that someone impersonated Oswald in phone calls made to the Soviet embassy and the Cuban consulate and linked Oswald to a known KGB assassin — Valery Kostikov — whom the CIA and FBI had been following for over a year.

The news of this impersonation and the link to Kostikov, learned within hours of President Kennedy’s assassination, electrified top government and intelligence officials and dominated their discussion in the immediate weeks following the assassination. It also became during the next 40 years one of the CIA’s most closely guarded secrets on the Oswald case.

Oswald, the CIA, and Mexico City | Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? | FRONTLINE

 

[Soupnazi630]

Where do you come up with these fairy tales?

Hey Einstein, PLEASE provide 'the 'motive' for someone to show up at the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City posing as Lee Harvey Oswald less than two months before the assassination?

The Mexico City Tapes

At 10 AM on the morning following the Kennedy assassination, President Lyndon Johnson and FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover discussed the state of the case over the telephone. In response to LBJ's question about "the visit to the Soviet Embassy in September," Hoover replied:

"No, that’s one angle that’s very confusing, for this reason—we have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet embassy, using Oswald’s name. That picture and the tape do not correspond to this man’s voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the Soviet embassy down there."

This message was conveyed later the same day in writing, in a memo from Hoover to the White House and the Secret Service Chief. Did this amazing discovery of an Oswald imposter, caught on tapped phone lines, launch the greatest manhunt in history? No, instead within 48 hours the entire story had been buried. The tape of the Johnson-Hoover call quoted from above has itself been erased; only a contemporaneous transcript remains.

Those were facts not fairy tales and no one went to mexico posing as Oswald he went himself.

The reason it appears to be more than one man is that the CIA was asked on the day of the assassination to present their photographs of Oswald at the CUban embassy.

The problem was that they did not know what he looked like his pictrure was not yet all over the papers.

Therefore they checked their records and found out WHEN he went to the embassy and pulled some photographs from a file which were taken at that time.

They then presented a picture of someone they assumed was Oswald.

It was nothing more than beauracratic error.

And it does not address in any way the facts that I posted which you call fairy tales.

False. And you need to stop emoting and provide links to back up your false claims. And you need to get up to date...

Oswald, the CIA, and Mexico City

It was 1993, the 30th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination, when FRONTLINE first aired its documentary, “Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?” In that program FRONTLINE concluded, “What now seems certain is that the CIA is still covering up its contact with Lee Harvey Oswald.”

Now, 10 years later, much material has been made available to the American public which sheds light on what the CIA had been hiding for 40 years. This new information is the result of the U.S. Congress passing the 1993 “JFK Records Act,” which mandated the full release of all government files relating to the assassination of President Kennedy and created a civilian Assassination Records Review Board to oversee this process. By the time the Board’s work was completed in the late 1990s, 6 million pages of documents had been made available to the public in the National Archives.

Arguably, the most startling information so far brought to light by the release of these intelligence records is the CIA cover-up relating to Oswald’s visit to Mexico City.

Oswald was in Mexico City in late September and early October of 1963. During his one-week stay, he tried to obtain visas from the Cuban consulate and Soviet embassy. But intelligence documents released in 1999 establish that, after Oswald failed to get the visas, CIA intercepts showed that someone impersonated Oswald in phone calls made to the Soviet embassy and the Cuban consulate and linked Oswald to a known KGB assassin — Valery Kostikov — whom the CIA and FBI had been following for over a year.

The news of this impersonation and the link to Kostikov, learned within hours of President Kennedy’s assassination, electrified top government and intelligence officials and dominated their discussion in the immediate weeks following the assassination. It also became during the next 40 years one of the CIA’s most closely guarded secrets on the Oswald case.

Oswald, the CIA, and Mexico City | Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? | FRONTLINE

What I stated is absolute fact not false had you botherred to read the Warren Commission report you might learn a few things which is where the facts I posted come from.

Bo not tell others to post links when you only post links which lead to others opinion.

The facts and opinion are two different things and none of the OPINIONS which you post are even related to the FACTS which I posted.

The false claim of an Oswald double was debunked decades ago there is no document or recording of a double only beauracratic errors of people in the government who thought they had recordings of Oswald with no basis for comparison.

Those are facts deal with it.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

at 2:39 pm today someone farted in here.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

SIX farts in a row let out from from the government agent paid trolls today after mskafka's post today. Their handlers are obviously worried these facts are getting out that oswald is innocent.

No surprise whatsoever though.True to form like i predicted,i knew in the month of november when threads liek this started getting created,the government would get worried and send their paid trolls here to troll these threads to derail any truth discussion taken place about the jfk assassassination.

Like clockwork,these agent trolls are so easy to predict.they came out in droves just like i predicted they would 3 months ago.

must suck being a paid troll when they are so easy to predict. back in the summertime,very few trolls were patroling this thread,just the normal rat in the ass and dawgshit,since november,they came out in a swarm just like i called it back last summer. so easy are you agents to predict.pitiful.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Over 50 farts in a row from the sooper-sekret paid agent shill troll dupes since my last post here.

SIX farts in a row let out from from the government agent paid trolls today after mskafka's post today.

Hey look everyone. 9/11 Rimjob just couldn't wait to copycat my post.

 

[Soupnazi630]

at 2:39 pm today someone farted in here.

Thats you

 

[Soupnazi630]

SIX farts in a row let out from from the government agent paid trolls today after mskafka's post today. Their handlers are obviously worried these facts are getting out that oswald is innocent.

No surprise whatsoever though.True to form like i predicted,i knew in the month of november when threads liek this started getting created,the government would get worried and send their paid trolls here to troll these threads to derail any truth discussion taken place about the jfk assassassination.

Like clockwork,these agent trolls are so easy to predict.they came out in droves just like i predicted they would 3 months ago.

must suck being a paid troll when they are so easy to predict. back in the summertime,very few trolls were patroling this thread,just the normal rat in the ass and dawgshit,since november,they came out in a swarm just like i called it back last summer. so easy are you agents to predict.pitiful.

There are no facts proving he is innocent which is why you play your games rather than trying to post a fact.

The facts prove you wrong and you behave childishly.

 

[mskafka]

One of Gerald Posner's disciples.

One of Oliver Stone's acolytes

Guy, you are SOOO far away. It's an okay movie, but it has many missing pieces. Paraphrasing, from someone: "Communism, was blown up to be much more, than it actually was in reality." Reality is MUCH stranger than fiction.

Believest thou this, sir.

 

[Bfgrn]

Those were facts not fairy tales and no one went to mexico posing as Oswald he went himself.

The reason it appears to be more than one man is that the CIA was asked on the day of the assassination to present their photographs of Oswald at the CUban embassy.

The problem was that they did not know what he looked like his pictrure was not yet all over the papers.

Therefore they checked their records and found out WHEN he went to the embassy and pulled some photographs from a file which were taken at that time.

They then presented a picture of someone they assumed was Oswald.

It was nothing more than beauracratic error.

And it does not address in any way the facts that I posted which you call fairy tales.

False. And you need to stop emoting and provide links to back up your false claims. And you need to get up to date...

Oswald, the CIA, and Mexico City

It was 1993, the 30th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination, when FRONTLINE first aired its documentary, “Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?” In that program FRONTLINE concluded, “What now seems certain is that the CIA is still covering up its contact with Lee Harvey Oswald.”

Now, 10 years later, much material has been made available to the American public which sheds light on what the CIA had been hiding for 40 years. This new information is the result of the U.S. Congress passing the 1993 “JFK Records Act,” which mandated the full release of all government files relating to the assassination of President Kennedy and created a civilian Assassination Records Review Board to oversee this process. By the time the Board’s work was completed in the late 1990s, 6 million pages of documents had been made available to the public in the National Archives.

Arguably, the most startling information so far brought to light by the release of these intelligence records is the CIA cover-up relating to Oswald’s visit to Mexico City.

Oswald was in Mexico City in late September and early October of 1963. During his one-week stay, he tried to obtain visas from the Cuban consulate and Soviet embassy. But intelligence documents released in 1999 establish that, after Oswald failed to get the visas, CIA intercepts showed that someone impersonated Oswald in phone calls made to the Soviet embassy and the Cuban consulate and linked Oswald to a known KGB assassin — Valery Kostikov — whom the CIA and FBI had been following for over a year.

The news of this impersonation and the link to Kostikov, learned within hours of President Kennedy’s assassination, electrified top government and intelligence officials and dominated their discussion in the immediate weeks following the assassination. It also became during the next 40 years one of the CIA’s most closely guarded secrets on the Oswald case.

Oswald, the CIA, and Mexico City | Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? | FRONTLINE

What I stated is absolute fact not false had you botherred to read the Warren Commission report you might learn a few things which is where the facts I posted come from.

Bo not tell others to post links when you only post links which lead to others opinion.

The facts and opinion are two different things and none of the OPINIONS which you post are even related to the FACTS which I posted.

The false claim of an Oswald double was debunked decades ago there is no document or recording of a double only beauracratic errors of people in the government who thought they had recordings of Oswald with no basis for comparison.

Those are facts deal with it.

You can throw all the bluster you want at me, but you are talking to someone who knows 1,000 times more about this issue than you do. I will not back down and I will not let your lies pass as facts. And if you are going to 'claim' you are stating facts, you have to back up your claims with links.

I didn't post opinion. It is backed up by declassified government files and the FBI Director. You have to be a fool to bring up the biggest fairy tales as your proof...the Warren Commission.

FBI Director J Edgar Hoover:

"No, that’s one angle that’s very confusing, for this reason—we have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet embassy, using Oswald’s name. That picture and the tape do not correspond to this man’s voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the Soviet embassy down there."