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It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
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It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
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- and your purpose for the "discussion" you have not already imposed by your incendiary statements.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok -
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you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.

That is moronic. Completely moronic.
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That is moronic. Completely moronic.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok - you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.
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don't be a coward, give it a whirll -
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have you your letter from the priest, their permission for your vasectomy ... bing fixed it for himself no different than an abortion.

A sperm is not a human life you fucking moron. A fertilized egg, is. THe sperm by itself, will not grow up and one day have a family of it's own.

The fertilized egg, will. Because it is a human life. A brand new human life, with a lot of growing in front of him or her, but a human never the less.
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What part of that, is too hard for you to understand?
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preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved - bing chose abortion for himself while denying the same to others the same as you and your self centric, qualifying motivations intervening against the lives of others you have no legitimacy being involved with.
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The sperm is not.
you are a joke by using a condom you are preventing a birth. the very purpose of a vasectomy is the prevention of life - your doing nothing more than screaming fire in a packed theatre.

Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,


and later on, it is a human being.
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Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,
and later on, it is a human being.
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the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs - you are nothing more than a disingenuous sociopathic zealot.

at least build and sale your chastity belt you alone have the key for, they will be forever in your debt.

THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
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THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
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no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.

you must have no intervention, intercourse but only for the sole purpose you deem as animalistic reproduction whether or not pregnancy is the result for your objection to be valid.

and they will need your approval to make the attempt being certain by your presence no mistakes or loss of fluids occurs.

No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
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No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
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you mustn't what - bear witness to their intercourse to preserve whatever may spill from their bedside.

You said I must. I said, NOT.

You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
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You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
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preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved -
the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs -
no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.
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my position has been made perfectly clear - your end run is nothing more than sociopathic zealotry.

Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
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He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
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there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
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Your pretense that it is the Christians who are the would be tyrants in our society today, is not fooling anyone. Try again lefty.
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there is no pretense to recorded history -

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christianity is a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent, uninterrupted since the 4th century to the present day - in this country particularly by their vestiture from the beginning in slavery and other brutalities to indigenous and other peoples of meekness made vulnerable to their evil. correll.

1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
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1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
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not showing the claim is the only way to prevent the self evident fact from being realized - you can not deny its validity.

there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
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what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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just recently the racist christians and their protest to protect civil war memorabilia ...

that's probably chick, no need for sunglasses hiding behind a hood. fits her photo profile almost to a T.

You made a claim about today, and for proof you posted a picture from one hundred years ago.


Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.


Are you running away from that idiocy, since I called you on it, or hoping that if you throw enough shit against the wall, like a retarded monkey, that no one will notice how I made a fool of you?


You people are the bigots today and this is all about you wanting to deny Christians the right to participate in the political process by bullying them from the public square, like the marxist thugs you are.
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Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.
what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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be a while for you to find an example ... christian.

christians have no remorse for their past as they have no remorse - correll

YOu made a claim about Christianity today, and to support it, you posted an ONE HUNDRED YEAR OLD PICTURE.


And you don't see an issue with that?


Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
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Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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the maleficence of christianity is rooted in their 4th century christian bible that is what you claim to be your religion it is you who can not abide by your own literature and its recorded history to the present day.
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the illustration is a reflection of the christian bible and its aftermath and of those that perpetuate its deception and their use of the crucifixion of an innocent person for their own illicit purposes.

- that this is not a christian nation is directly relevant to the history you deny and do nothing to change.

So, in response to my challenge to back up your complaints about modern day Christians, you first post a phote over a hundred years old, and now, back that up with an even older drawing, from the Dark Ages(?)? What 500 hundred years old? MOre?


You have failed utterly to even TRY to support your claim.

you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.


Probably due to being a far lefty ideologue.
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you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.
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how is recorded history lying, correll -
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christianity throughout history has been a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent to this day - you have provided no rebuttal than your fear of seeing your past or showing any alternative your religion has accomplished.
And that means that Jesus isn't God how?
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And that means that Jesus isn't God how?
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they never claimed to be nor were they unfortunately for you being a good person is all that is required.
Actually He did make that claim and I’m still waiting for you to explain how what you wrote proved otherwise.

Lastly it would be unfortunate for you if admittance into the everlasting required you to be a good person.
 

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If you can gin up some bullshit accusations about different views on history,
it has nothing to do with different views on history.. When you say that America was founded as a Christian Nation you are saying it was founded by Christians and Christians only. Its a lie. It is not true unless you can prove that every single framer of the Constitution was, Protestant with a belief in original sin, the Divinity of Christ, blood salvation, virgin birth, resurrection Etc etc etc.

Your pretense that you are too stupid to understand the distinction between a generalization and an universal is not credible and dismissed. You cannot be that stupid.


I brought you Reverend Darby who believes all those Jesus things but for some reason he has no need to tell me he believes that America was founded as a Christian nation as you Correll and ding PoliticalChic Picaro do.


Which matters not at all to the question we are discussing. You are throwing shit against a wall, hoping to create the illusion of a serious argument against my position.


And why? For what? You still have not given one reason why this is relevant to any issue today.


We both know why. Because you NEED to have an excuse to marginalize and dismiss the voices of Christians, because you cannot defend your political positions or policies based on their merits.
 

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It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
.
It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
.
- and your purpose for the "discussion" you have not already imposed by your incendiary statements.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok -
.
View attachment 391463
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you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.

That is moronic. Completely moronic.
.
That is moronic. Completely moronic.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok - you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.
.
don't be a coward, give it a whirll -
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View attachment 391758
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have you your letter from the priest, their permission for your vasectomy ... bing fixed it for himself no different than an abortion.

A sperm is not a human life you fucking moron. A fertilized egg, is. THe sperm by itself, will not grow up and one day have a family of it's own.

The fertilized egg, will. Because it is a human life. A brand new human life, with a lot of growing in front of him or her, but a human never the less.
.

What part of that, is too hard for you to understand?
.
preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved - bing chose abortion for himself while denying the same to others the same as you and your self centric, qualifying motivations intervening against the lives of others you have no legitimacy being involved with.
.
The sperm is not.
you are a joke by using a condom you are preventing a birth. the very purpose of a vasectomy is the prevention of life - your doing nothing more than screaming fire in a packed theatre.

Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,


and later on, it is a human being.
.
Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,
and later on, it is a human being.
.
the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs - you are nothing more than a disingenuous sociopathic zealot.

at least build and sale your chastity belt you alone have the key for, they will be forever in your debt.

THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
.
THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
.
no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.

you must have no intervention, intercourse but only for the sole purpose you deem as animalistic reproduction whether or not pregnancy is the result for your objection to be valid.

and they will need your approval to make the attempt being certain by your presence no mistakes or loss of fluids occurs.

No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
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No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
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you mustn't what - bear witness to their intercourse to preserve whatever may spill from their bedside.

You said I must. I said, NOT.

You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
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You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
.
preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved -
the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs -
no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.
.
my position has been made perfectly clear - your end run is nothing more than sociopathic zealotry.

Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
.
He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
.
there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
.

Your pretense that it is the Christians who are the would be tyrants in our society today, is not fooling anyone. Try again lefty.
.
there is no pretense to recorded history -

View attachment 393049

christianity is a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent, uninterrupted since the 4th century to the present day - in this country particularly by their vestiture from the beginning in slavery and other brutalities to indigenous and other peoples of meekness made vulnerable to their evil. correll.

1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
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1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
.
not showing the claim is the only way to prevent the self evident fact from being realized - you can not deny its validity.

there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
.
what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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View attachment 393387
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just recently the racist christians and their protest to protect civil war memorabilia ...

that's probably chick, no need for sunglasses hiding behind a hood. fits her photo profile almost to a T.

You made a claim about today, and for proof you posted a picture from one hundred years ago.


Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.


Are you running away from that idiocy, since I called you on it, or hoping that if you throw enough shit against the wall, like a retarded monkey, that no one will notice how I made a fool of you?


You people are the bigots today and this is all about you wanting to deny Christians the right to participate in the political process by bullying them from the public square, like the marxist thugs you are.
.
Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.
what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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View attachment 393678
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be a while for you to find an example ... christian.

christians have no remorse for their past as they have no remorse - correll

YOu made a claim about Christianity today, and to support it, you posted an ONE HUNDRED YEAR OLD PICTURE.


And you don't see an issue with that?


Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
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Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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the maleficence of christianity is rooted in their 4th century christian bible that is what you claim to be your religion it is you who can not abide by your own literature and its recorded history to the present day.
.
View attachment 393775
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the illustration is a reflection of the christian bible and its aftermath and of those that perpetuate its deception and their use of the crucifixion of an innocent person for their own illicit purposes.

- that this is not a christian nation is directly relevant to the history you deny and do nothing to change.

So, in response to my challenge to back up your complaints about modern day Christians, you first post a phote over a hundred years old, and now, back that up with an even older drawing, from the Dark Ages(?)? What 500 hundred years old? MOre?


You have failed utterly to even TRY to support your claim.

you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.


Probably due to being a far lefty ideologue.
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you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.
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how is recorded history lying, correll -
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christianity throughout history has been a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent to this day - you have provided no rebuttal than your fear of seeing your past or showing any alternative your religion has accomplished.

Said the loser that to back up his modern day accusations against Christians, keep posting pictures from CENTURIES AGO.


What a loser. What a moron.


Dude. ALL CULTURES HAVE ABUSES IN THEIR HISTORY. That is all you are demonstrating. And that you are a fool.
 

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If you can gin up some bullshit accusations about different views on history,
it has nothing to do with different views on history.. When you say that America was founded as a Christian Nation you are saying it was founded by Christians and Christians only. Its a lie. It is not true unless you can prove that every single framer of the Constitution was, Protestant with a belief in original sin, the Divinity of Christ, blood salvation, virgin birth, resurrection Etc etc etc.

And if telling the truth is scary I don’t know who you think it’s scaring.

I brought you Reverend Darby who believes all those Jesus things but for some reason he has no need to tell me he believes that America was founded as a Christian nation as you Correll and ding PoliticalChic Picaro do.

Don't change what I said.....this:

America was not founded to be a Christian only nation.
It was never meant to be a theocracy.

But it was founded by orthodox Christians, based on the Judeo-Christian Bible....which was the single most quoted document by the Founders, and points to Jesus Christ in the text of the Constitution. Segments of our founding documents come directly from the Bible.


That religion and that book were always seen as the guidance that would form the basis of our morality.

It is the neo-Marxist influence of government school that has corrupted your view and deprived you of the truth. I doubt you will ever recover from said intellectual abuse.



And, of course, it is true.
 

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If you can gin up some bullshit accusations about different views on history,
it has nothing to do with different views on history.. When you say that America was founded as a Christian Nation you are saying it was founded by Christians and Christians only. Its a lie. It is not true unless you can prove that every single framer of the Constitution was, Protestant with a belief in original sin, the Divinity of Christ, blood salvation, virgin birth, resurrection Etc etc etc.

And if telling the truth is scary I don’t know who you think it’s scaring.

I brought you Reverend Darby who believes all those Jesus things but for some reason he has no need to tell me he believes that America was founded as a Christian nation as you Correll and ding PoliticalChic Picaro do.
That's a pretty strange standard you have there. :lol:
 

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If you can gin up some bullshit accusations about different views on history,
it has nothing to do with different views on history.. When you say that America was founded as a Christian Nation you are saying it was founded by Christians and Christians only. Its a lie. It is not true unless you can prove that every single framer of the Constitution was, Protestant with a belief in original sin, the Divinity of Christ, blood salvation, virgin birth, resurrection Etc etc etc.

And if telling the truth is scary I don’t know who you think it’s scaring.

I brought you Reverend Darby who believes all those Jesus things but for some reason he has no need to tell me he believes that America was founded as a Christian nation as you Correll and ding PoliticalChic Picaro do.
That's a pretty strange standard you have there. :lol:

He was not expecting anyone to seriously respond to his shit. And now that we have, the lack of sense to his thinking, is becoming painfully obvious.
 

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If you can gin up some bullshit accusations about different views on history,
it has nothing to do with different views on history.. When you say that America was founded as a Christian Nation you are saying it was founded by Christians and Christians only. Its a lie. It is not true unless you can prove that every single framer of the Constitution was, Protestant with a belief in original sin, the Divinity of Christ, blood salvation, virgin birth, resurrection Etc etc etc.

And if telling the truth is scary I don’t know who you think it’s scaring.

I brought you Reverend Darby who believes all those Jesus things but for some reason he has no need to tell me he believes that America was founded as a Christian nation as you Correll and ding PoliticalChic Picaro do.
That's a pretty strange standard you have there. :lol:

He was not expecting anyone to seriously respond to his shit. And now that we have, the lack of sense to his thinking, is becoming painfully obvious.
He's painted himself into a corner.
 

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Your pretense that you are too stupid to understand the distinction between a generalization and an universal is not credible and dismissed.


I get that you and ding PoliticalChic Picaro when defending white evangelical Christian nationalism must resort to oversimplification and vast generalization, for Your illogical argument and a lack of critical thinking and disregard for historical fact.

There is no reason to generalize and oversimplify the FACT that America was founded by men who had very distinct religious and philosophical views - but on one thing they agreed and put into writing was that the US Constitution was written purposely with their personal religions and differences to be unmentioned.

The Constitution is therefore a secular document produced by religious men.

Christian founding denies that and is a lie.
 
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Your pretense that you are too stupid to understand the distinction between a generalization and an universal is not credible and dismissed.


I get that you and ding PoliticalChic Picaro when defending white Evangelical Christian nationalism must resort to oversimplification and vast generalization, for Your illogical argument and a lack of critical thinking and disregard for historical fact.

There is no reason to generalize and oversimplify the FACT that America was founded by men who had very distinct religious and philosophical views - but on one thing they agreed and put into writing was that the US Constitution was written purposely with their personal religions and differences to be unmentioned.

The Constitution is therefore a secular document produced by religious men.

Christian founding denies that and is a lie.


1. You need to use commas, to distinguish between whites, and White Nationalists. you are obviously being sloppy to conflate vastly different groups, so as to smear your enemies. Knock that shit off; you are being a divisive ass.

2. We are not defending white nationalists, or Christian Nationalists. You are conflating vastly different people and being dishonest.

3. Neither of us have said ANYTHING that would make a statement that the Founders has distinct religious and philosophical views and differences. That was meaningless filler.

4. The document might be secular. That nation was not. It was Christian.

5. I have challenged you to give me ONE example of this being relevant to an issue today. You made that claim earlier but gave no specifics. And you still have not.

Because you can't.
 

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3. Neither of us have said ANYTHING that would make a statement that the Founders has distinct religious and philosophical views and differences.
Thats the oversimplification and generalization that I’m talking about.

You and ding PoliticalChic Picaro are carrying water for the white evangelical Christian nationalism movement that starts with the oversimplified claim that ANERICS’s founders were all white Protestant Christians with all the best and proper morals derived from their religion, just like them.
 

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3. Neither of us have said ANYTHING that would make a statement that the Founders has distinct religious and philosophical views and differences.
Thats the oversimplification and generalization that I’m talking about.

You and ding PoliticalChic Picaro are carrying water for the white evangelical Christian nationalism movement that starts with the oversimplified claim that ANERICS’s founders were all white Protestant Christians with all the best and proper morals derived from their religion, just like them.
No. This is me seeing reality.
 

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3. Neither of us have said ANYTHING that would make a statement that the Founders has distinct religious and philosophical views and differences.
Thats the oversimplification and generalization that I’m talking about.

You and ding PoliticalChic Picaro are carrying water for the white evangelical Christian nationalism movement that starts with the oversimplified claim that ANERICS’s founders were all white Protestant Christians with all the best and proper morals derived from their religion, just like them.

1 You are conflating "white" with "White Nationalists". THe is you dishonestly smearing hundreds of millions of good people. You are being a wace baiting asshole.

2. YOu are conflating "Christians" with "Christian Nationalists". That is you dishonestly smearing hundreds of millions of good people. you are being a anti-Christian bigot.

3. No one is claiming that all of America's Founders were Protestants. That is you playing dumb, pretending to not know the difference between a generalization and an universality.

4. ALL you have, is various forms of dishonesty, as arguments.

5. I have repeatedly challenged you to name one current issue that would be effected by this historical claim. YOu have failed to do so, despite claiming it would.

6. This is really about you finding an excuse to marginalize and dismiss modern day Christians from political discussions.
 

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It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
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It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
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- and your purpose for the "discussion" you have not already imposed by your incendiary statements.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok -
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you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.

That is moronic. Completely moronic.
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That is moronic. Completely moronic.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok - you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.
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don't be a coward, give it a whirll -
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have you your letter from the priest, their permission for your vasectomy ... bing fixed it for himself no different than an abortion.

A sperm is not a human life you fucking moron. A fertilized egg, is. THe sperm by itself, will not grow up and one day have a family of it's own.

The fertilized egg, will. Because it is a human life. A brand new human life, with a lot of growing in front of him or her, but a human never the less.
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What part of that, is too hard for you to understand?
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preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved - bing chose abortion for himself while denying the same to others the same as you and your self centric, qualifying motivations intervening against the lives of others you have no legitimacy being involved with.
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The sperm is not.
you are a joke by using a condom you are preventing a birth. the very purpose of a vasectomy is the prevention of life - your doing nothing more than screaming fire in a packed theatre.

Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,


and later on, it is a human being.
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Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,
and later on, it is a human being.
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the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs - you are nothing more than a disingenuous sociopathic zealot.

at least build and sale your chastity belt you alone have the key for, they will be forever in your debt.

THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
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THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
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no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.

you must have no intervention, intercourse but only for the sole purpose you deem as animalistic reproduction whether or not pregnancy is the result for your objection to be valid.

and they will need your approval to make the attempt being certain by your presence no mistakes or loss of fluids occurs.

No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
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No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
.
you mustn't what - bear witness to their intercourse to preserve whatever may spill from their bedside.

You said I must. I said, NOT.

You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
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You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
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preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved -
the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs -
no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.
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my position has been made perfectly clear - your end run is nothing more than sociopathic zealotry.

Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
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He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
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there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
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Your pretense that it is the Christians who are the would be tyrants in our society today, is not fooling anyone. Try again lefty.
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there is no pretense to recorded history -

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christianity is a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent, uninterrupted since the 4th century to the present day - in this country particularly by their vestiture from the beginning in slavery and other brutalities to indigenous and other peoples of meekness made vulnerable to their evil. correll.

1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
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1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
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not showing the claim is the only way to prevent the self evident fact from being realized - you can not deny its validity.

there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
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what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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just recently the racist christians and their protest to protect civil war memorabilia ...

that's probably chick, no need for sunglasses hiding behind a hood. fits her photo profile almost to a T.

You made a claim about today, and for proof you posted a picture from one hundred years ago.


Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.


Are you running away from that idiocy, since I called you on it, or hoping that if you throw enough shit against the wall, like a retarded monkey, that no one will notice how I made a fool of you?


You people are the bigots today and this is all about you wanting to deny Christians the right to participate in the political process by bullying them from the public square, like the marxist thugs you are.
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Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.
what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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be a while for you to find an example ... christian.

christians have no remorse for their past as they have no remorse - correll

YOu made a claim about Christianity today, and to support it, you posted an ONE HUNDRED YEAR OLD PICTURE.


And you don't see an issue with that?


Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
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Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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the maleficence of christianity is rooted in their 4th century christian bible that is what you claim to be your religion it is you who can not abide by your own literature and its recorded history to the present day.
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the illustration is a reflection of the christian bible and its aftermath and of those that perpetuate its deception and their use of the crucifixion of an innocent person for their own illicit purposes.

- that this is not a christian nation is directly relevant to the history you deny and do nothing to change.

So, in response to my challenge to back up your complaints about modern day Christians, you first post a phote over a hundred years old, and now, back that up with an even older drawing, from the Dark Ages(?)? What 500 hundred years old? MOre?


You have failed utterly to even TRY to support your claim.

you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.


Probably due to being a far lefty ideologue.
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you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.
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how is recorded history lying, correll -
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christianity throughout history has been a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent to this day - you have provided no rebuttal than your fear of seeing your past or showing any alternative your religion has accomplished.

Said the loser that to back up his modern day accusations against Christians, keep posting pictures from CENTURIES AGO.


What a loser. What a moron.


Dude. ALL CULTURES HAVE ABUSES IN THEIR HISTORY. That is all you are demonstrating. And that you are a fool.


Sorry, but I must have missed the 'pictures'....but is it a reference to the Inquisitions?

If so, it is a snowflake compared to an avalanche.

The 'abuses' due to religion are miniscule compared to the religion of the Left, Militant Secularism.
It totals something like 17 million deaths throughout history versus 170 million.



Solzhenitsyn compares the Inquisitions to Russia when the atheistic Bolsheviks took over:

a. Before the Russian Revolution, the number of execution by the czarist government came to seventeen (17) per year, according to Solzhenitsyn. He pointed out that, in comparison, the Spanish Inquisition, at its height, destroyed 10 people per month.

But, during the revolutionary years 1918-1919, Lenin's Cheka executed, without trial, more than one thousand (1,000) people a month.
At the height of Stalin's terror, 1937-1938, tens of thousands of people were shot per month. Solzhenitsyn, "Warning To The West."


b. From Solzhenitsyn's "Warning To The West,"... "Here are the figures: 17 a year, 10 a month, more than 1 ,000 a month, more than 40,000 a month! Thus, that which had made it difficult for the democratic West to form an alliance with pre-revolutionary Russia had, by 1941, grown to such an extent and still did not prevent the entire united democracy ofthe world — England, France, the United States, Canada, and other small countries — from entering into a military alliance with the Soviet Union, How is this to be explained? How can we understand it? " Full text of "Solzhenitsyn: The Voice of Freedom"
 

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Halting the expansion of Gnostic Christians was a good thing. The inquisitions established trials which were unheard of before then.
 

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Your pretense that you are too stupid to understand the distinction between a generalization and an universal is not credible and dismissed.


I get that you and ding PoliticalChic Picaro when defending white evangelical Christian nationalism must resort to oversimplification and vast generalization, for Your illogical argument and a lack of critical thinking and disregard for historical fact.

There is no reason to generalize and oversimplify the FACT that America was founded by men who had very distinct religious and philosophical views - but on one thing they agreed and put into writing was that the US Constitution was written purposely with their personal religions and differences to be unmentioned.

The Constitution is therefore a secular document produced by religious men.

Christian founding denies that and is a lie.


You liars and bigots should stop pretending that the Constitution doesn't demand that said secular protocols never persecute religion and religious folks.

It makes clear that government remain neutral between the Judeo-Christian religion, and yours, Militant Secularism and Satanism.
 

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It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
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It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
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- and your purpose for the "discussion" you have not already imposed by your incendiary statements.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok -
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you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.

That is moronic. Completely moronic.
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That is moronic. Completely moronic.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok - you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.
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don't be a coward, give it a whirll -
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have you your letter from the priest, their permission for your vasectomy ... bing fixed it for himself no different than an abortion.

A sperm is not a human life you fucking moron. A fertilized egg, is. THe sperm by itself, will not grow up and one day have a family of it's own.

The fertilized egg, will. Because it is a human life. A brand new human life, with a lot of growing in front of him or her, but a human never the less.
.

What part of that, is too hard for you to understand?
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preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved - bing chose abortion for himself while denying the same to others the same as you and your self centric, qualifying motivations intervening against the lives of others you have no legitimacy being involved with.
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The sperm is not.
you are a joke by using a condom you are preventing a birth. the very purpose of a vasectomy is the prevention of life - your doing nothing more than screaming fire in a packed theatre.

Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,


and later on, it is a human being.
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Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,
and later on, it is a human being.
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the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs - you are nothing more than a disingenuous sociopathic zealot.

at least build and sale your chastity belt you alone have the key for, they will be forever in your debt.

THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
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THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
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no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.

you must have no intervention, intercourse but only for the sole purpose you deem as animalistic reproduction whether or not pregnancy is the result for your objection to be valid.

and they will need your approval to make the attempt being certain by your presence no mistakes or loss of fluids occurs.

No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
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No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
.
you mustn't what - bear witness to their intercourse to preserve whatever may spill from their bedside.

You said I must. I said, NOT.

You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
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You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
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preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved -
the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs -
no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.
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my position has been made perfectly clear - your end run is nothing more than sociopathic zealotry.

Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
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He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
.
there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
.

Your pretense that it is the Christians who are the would be tyrants in our society today, is not fooling anyone. Try again lefty.
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there is no pretense to recorded history -

View attachment 393049

christianity is a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent, uninterrupted since the 4th century to the present day - in this country particularly by their vestiture from the beginning in slavery and other brutalities to indigenous and other peoples of meekness made vulnerable to their evil. correll.

1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
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1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
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not showing the claim is the only way to prevent the self evident fact from being realized - you can not deny its validity.

there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
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what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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just recently the racist christians and their protest to protect civil war memorabilia ...

that's probably chick, no need for sunglasses hiding behind a hood. fits her photo profile almost to a T.

You made a claim about today, and for proof you posted a picture from one hundred years ago.


Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.


Are you running away from that idiocy, since I called you on it, or hoping that if you throw enough shit against the wall, like a retarded monkey, that no one will notice how I made a fool of you?


You people are the bigots today and this is all about you wanting to deny Christians the right to participate in the political process by bullying them from the public square, like the marxist thugs you are.
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Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.
what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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be a while for you to find an example ... christian.

christians have no remorse for their past as they have no remorse - correll

YOu made a claim about Christianity today, and to support it, you posted an ONE HUNDRED YEAR OLD PICTURE.


And you don't see an issue with that?


Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
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Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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the maleficence of christianity is rooted in their 4th century christian bible that is what you claim to be your religion it is you who can not abide by your own literature and its recorded history to the present day.
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the illustration is a reflection of the christian bible and its aftermath and of those that perpetuate its deception and their use of the crucifixion of an innocent person for their own illicit purposes.

- that this is not a christian nation is directly relevant to the history you deny and do nothing to change.

So, in response to my challenge to back up your complaints about modern day Christians, you first post a phote over a hundred years old, and now, back that up with an even older drawing, from the Dark Ages(?)? What 500 hundred years old? MOre?


You have failed utterly to even TRY to support your claim.

you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.


Probably due to being a far lefty ideologue.
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you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.
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how is recorded history lying, correll -
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christianity throughout history has been a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent to this day - you have provided no rebuttal than your fear of seeing your past or showing any alternative your religion has accomplished.

Said the loser that to back up his modern day accusations against Christians, keep posting pictures from CENTURIES AGO.


What a loser. What a moron.


Dude. ALL CULTURES HAVE ABUSES IN THEIR HISTORY. That is all you are demonstrating. And that you are a fool.


Sorry, but I must have missed the 'pictures'....but is it a reference to the Inquisitions?

If so, it is a snowflake compared to an avalanche.

The 'abuses' due to religion are miniscule compared to the religion of the Left, Militant Secularism.
It totals something like 17 million deaths throughout history versus 170 million.



Solzhenitsyn compares the Inquisitions to Russia when the atheistic Bolsheviks took over:

a. Before the Russian Revolution, the number of execution by the czarist government came to seventeen (17) per year, according to Solzhenitsyn. He pointed out that, in comparison, the Spanish Inquisition, at its height, destroyed 10 people per month.

But, during the revolutionary years 1918-1919, Lenin's Cheka executed, without trial, more than one thousand (1,000) people a month.
At the height of Stalin's terror, 1937-1938, tens of thousands of people were shot per month. Solzhenitsyn, "Warning To The West."


b. From Solzhenitsyn's "Warning To The West,"... "Here are the figures: 17 a year, 10 a month, more than 1 ,000 a month, more than 40,000 a month! Thus, that which had made it difficult for the democratic West to form an alliance with pre-revolutionary Russia had, by 1941, grown to such an extent and still did not prevent the entire united democracy ofthe world — England, France, the United States, Canada, and other small countries — from entering into a military alliance with the Soviet Union, How is this to be explained? How can we understand it? " Full text of "Solzhenitsyn: The Voice of Freedom"

At first he made a claim about current day Christians and posted a picture from a large Klan rally obviously from the second rise of the Klan back in the 1920s. If not earlier.


I laughed in his face and called him on his bullshit, so of course, he doubled down and started posting drawings from CENTURIES EARLIER.


He is a pathetic loser of an anti-Christian bigot.
 

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It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
.
It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
.
- and your purpose for the "discussion" you have not already imposed by your incendiary statements.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok -
.
View attachment 391463
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you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.

That is moronic. Completely moronic.
.
That is moronic. Completely moronic.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok - you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.
.
don't be a coward, give it a whirll -
.
View attachment 391758
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have you your letter from the priest, their permission for your vasectomy ... bing fixed it for himself no different than an abortion.

A sperm is not a human life you fucking moron. A fertilized egg, is. THe sperm by itself, will not grow up and one day have a family of it's own.

The fertilized egg, will. Because it is a human life. A brand new human life, with a lot of growing in front of him or her, but a human never the less.
.

What part of that, is too hard for you to understand?
.
preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved - bing chose abortion for himself while denying the same to others the same as you and your self centric, qualifying motivations intervening against the lives of others you have no legitimacy being involved with.
.
The sperm is not.
you are a joke by using a condom you are preventing a birth. the very purpose of a vasectomy is the prevention of life - your doing nothing more than screaming fire in a packed theatre.

Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,


and later on, it is a human being.
.
Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,
and later on, it is a human being.
.
the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs - you are nothing more than a disingenuous sociopathic zealot.

at least build and sale your chastity belt you alone have the key for, they will be forever in your debt.

THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
.
THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
.
no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.

you must have no intervention, intercourse but only for the sole purpose you deem as animalistic reproduction whether or not pregnancy is the result for your objection to be valid.

and they will need your approval to make the attempt being certain by your presence no mistakes or loss of fluids occurs.

No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
.
No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
.
you mustn't what - bear witness to their intercourse to preserve whatever may spill from their bedside.

You said I must. I said, NOT.

You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
.
You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
.
preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved -
the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs -
no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.
.
my position has been made perfectly clear - your end run is nothing more than sociopathic zealotry.

Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
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He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
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there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
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Your pretense that it is the Christians who are the would be tyrants in our society today, is not fooling anyone. Try again lefty.
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there is no pretense to recorded history -

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christianity is a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent, uninterrupted since the 4th century to the present day - in this country particularly by their vestiture from the beginning in slavery and other brutalities to indigenous and other peoples of meekness made vulnerable to their evil. correll.

1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
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1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
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not showing the claim is the only way to prevent the self evident fact from being realized - you can not deny its validity.

there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
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what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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just recently the racist christians and their protest to protect civil war memorabilia ...

that's probably chick, no need for sunglasses hiding behind a hood. fits her photo profile almost to a T.

You made a claim about today, and for proof you posted a picture from one hundred years ago.


Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.


Are you running away from that idiocy, since I called you on it, or hoping that if you throw enough shit against the wall, like a retarded monkey, that no one will notice how I made a fool of you?


You people are the bigots today and this is all about you wanting to deny Christians the right to participate in the political process by bullying them from the public square, like the marxist thugs you are.
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Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.
what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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be a while for you to find an example ... christian.

christians have no remorse for their past as they have no remorse - correll

YOu made a claim about Christianity today, and to support it, you posted an ONE HUNDRED YEAR OLD PICTURE.


And you don't see an issue with that?


Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
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Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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the maleficence of christianity is rooted in their 4th century christian bible that is what you claim to be your religion it is you who can not abide by your own literature and its recorded history to the present day.
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the illustration is a reflection of the christian bible and its aftermath and of those that perpetuate its deception and their use of the crucifixion of an innocent person for their own illicit purposes.

- that this is not a christian nation is directly relevant to the history you deny and do nothing to change.

So, in response to my challenge to back up your complaints about modern day Christians, you first post a phote over a hundred years old, and now, back that up with an even older drawing, from the Dark Ages(?)? What 500 hundred years old? MOre?


You have failed utterly to even TRY to support your claim.

you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.


Probably due to being a far lefty ideologue.
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you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.
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how is recorded history lying, correll -
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christianity throughout history has been a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent to this day - you have provided no rebuttal than your fear of seeing your past or showing any alternative your religion has accomplished.

Said the loser that to back up his modern day accusations against Christians, keep posting pictures from CENTURIES AGO.


What a loser. What a moron.


Dude. ALL CULTURES HAVE ABUSES IN THEIR HISTORY. That is all you are demonstrating. And that you are a fool.


Sorry, but I must have missed the 'pictures'....but is it a reference to the Inquisitions?

If so, it is a snowflake compared to an avalanche.

The 'abuses' due to religion are miniscule compared to the religion of the Left, Militant Secularism.
It totals something like 17 million deaths throughout history versus 170 million.



Solzhenitsyn compares the Inquisitions to Russia when the atheistic Bolsheviks took over:

a. Before the Russian Revolution, the number of execution by the czarist government came to seventeen (17) per year, according to Solzhenitsyn. He pointed out that, in comparison, the Spanish Inquisition, at its height, destroyed 10 people per month.

But, during the revolutionary years 1918-1919, Lenin's Cheka executed, without trial, more than one thousand (1,000) people a month.
At the height of Stalin's terror, 1937-1938, tens of thousands of people were shot per month. Solzhenitsyn, "Warning To The West."


b. From Solzhenitsyn's "Warning To The West,"... "Here are the figures: 17 a year, 10 a month, more than 1 ,000 a month, more than 40,000 a month! Thus, that which had made it difficult for the democratic West to form an alliance with pre-revolutionary Russia had, by 1941, grown to such an extent and still did not prevent the entire united democracy ofthe world — England, France, the United States, Canada, and other small countries — from entering into a military alliance with the Soviet Union, How is this to be explained? How can we understand it? " Full text of "Solzhenitsyn: The Voice of Freedom"

At first he made a claim about current day Christians and posted a picture from a large Klan rally obviously from the second rise of the Klan back in the 1920s. If not earlier.


I laughed in his face and called him on his bullshit, so of course, he doubled down and started posting drawings from CENTURIES EARLIER.


He is a pathetic loser of an anti-Christian bigot.
The irony is that the KKK was the terrorist wing of the Democratic Party.

He fails to mention Christians were responsible for bringing an end to it.

Dude is a subversive.
 

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It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
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It would be so refreshing to have an honest discussion for once with an advocate for abortion.
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- and your purpose for the "discussion" you have not already imposed by your incendiary statements.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
To state the obvious; that it is wrong to abort a human life.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok -
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you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.

That is moronic. Completely moronic.
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That is moronic. Completely moronic.
but murdering everything else in Garden Earth is ok - you've not explained how having a vasectomy or using a condom is not the same as an abortion ... fill us in.
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don't be a coward, give it a whirll -
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have you your letter from the priest, their permission for your vasectomy ... bing fixed it for himself no different than an abortion.

A sperm is not a human life you fucking moron. A fertilized egg, is. THe sperm by itself, will not grow up and one day have a family of it's own.

The fertilized egg, will. Because it is a human life. A brand new human life, with a lot of growing in front of him or her, but a human never the less.
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What part of that, is too hard for you to understand?
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preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved - bing chose abortion for himself while denying the same to others the same as you and your self centric, qualifying motivations intervening against the lives of others you have no legitimacy being involved with.
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The sperm is not.
you are a joke by using a condom you are preventing a birth. the very purpose of a vasectomy is the prevention of life - your doing nothing more than screaming fire in a packed theatre.

Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,


and later on, it is a human being.
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Except it obvious does matter whether the intervention occurs, before the parts come together it is parts that could become something greater if the right chain of events happens,
and later on, it is a human being.
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the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs - you are nothing more than a disingenuous sociopathic zealot.

at least build and sale your chastity belt you alone have the key for, they will be forever in your debt.

THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
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THe line is not one I have drawn, the line is the difference between a human life and not a human life.


YOur denial of this, is you just stonewalling like a troll.
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no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.

you must have no intervention, intercourse but only for the sole purpose you deem as animalistic reproduction whether or not pregnancy is the result for your objection to be valid.

and they will need your approval to make the attempt being certain by your presence no mistakes or loss of fluids occurs.

No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
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No, I mustn't. Your words have no weight to them. They are structured as though it is a conclusion with a supporting argument.

But, your claims are empty assertions, with no actual reasons or logic to give them weight.
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you mustn't what - bear witness to their intercourse to preserve whatever may spill from their bedside.

You said I must. I said, NOT.

You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
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You went weird, because you cannot support your conclusion. Yet you will hold to it, for reasons you can not, or will not share.
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preventative intervention is the same no matter when it occurs - and is the choice made by the individual involved -
the line you yourself have drawn is not conciliatory, the intervention is the same result no matter when it occurs -
no, its your making a false issue from the same result - from beginning to end.
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my position has been made perfectly clear - your end run is nothing more than sociopathic zealotry.

Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
.
He's a subversive. He's knows he's making a bullshit argument. But it's the stupidest argument one could make.
Yes, your position is clear. It just refuses to recognize that a fertilized egg is different than a sperm cell.

ie, you are delusional.
.
there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
.

Your pretense that it is the Christians who are the would be tyrants in our society today, is not fooling anyone. Try again lefty.
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there is no pretense to recorded history -

View attachment 393049

christianity is a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent, uninterrupted since the 4th century to the present day - in this country particularly by their vestiture from the beginning in slavery and other brutalities to indigenous and other peoples of meekness made vulnerable to their evil. correll.

1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
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1. you keep making that claim. But you do nothing to support it, other than constant repetition. THat is a tacit admission on your part, that you have no real argument.

2. You claim that Christianity is a religious of persecution TODAY, and to support the post a picture from ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.... That is you, losing this debate, you anti-Christian bigot.
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not showing the claim is the only way to prevent the self evident fact from being realized - you can not deny its validity.

there is no difference in the end result for any intervention whenever it occurs - bing's vasectomy is the same as an abortion.
.
what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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View attachment 393387
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just recently the racist christians and their protest to protect civil war memorabilia ...

that's probably chick, no need for sunglasses hiding behind a hood. fits her photo profile almost to a T.

You made a claim about today, and for proof you posted a picture from one hundred years ago.


Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.


Are you running away from that idiocy, since I called you on it, or hoping that if you throw enough shit against the wall, like a retarded monkey, that no one will notice how I made a fool of you?


You people are the bigots today and this is all about you wanting to deny Christians the right to participate in the political process by bullying them from the public square, like the marxist thugs you are.
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Now you just posted a lot of shit there, but in no way did you address the absurdity of your previous supporting evidence, ie the one hundred year old picture, to prove Christians today are bad people.
what do you mean 100 years ago - as though that makes you any less culpable - what century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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View attachment 393678
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be a while for you to find an example ... christian.

christians have no remorse for their past as they have no remorse - correll

YOu made a claim about Christianity today, and to support it, you posted an ONE HUNDRED YEAR OLD PICTURE.


And you don't see an issue with that?


Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
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Support your bullshit complaints about Christianity TODAY, with something from TODAY, you freaking moronic bigot.
there is no reason to believe from your comments you are any different than what has been posted as a reflection of christanity - you fail to respond too. which century has christianity not been at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent -
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the maleficence of christianity is rooted in their 4th century christian bible that is what you claim to be your religion it is you who can not abide by your own literature and its recorded history to the present day.
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View attachment 393775
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the illustration is a reflection of the christian bible and its aftermath and of those that perpetuate its deception and their use of the crucifixion of an innocent person for their own illicit purposes.

- that this is not a christian nation is directly relevant to the history you deny and do nothing to change.

So, in response to my challenge to back up your complaints about modern day Christians, you first post a phote over a hundred years old, and now, back that up with an even older drawing, from the Dark Ages(?)? What 500 hundred years old? MOre?


You have failed utterly to even TRY to support your claim.

you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.


Probably due to being a far lefty ideologue.
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you lose. You know that you are lying when you smear Christianity and yet you do so anyways.
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how is recorded history lying, correll -
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christianity throughout history has been a religion of persecution and victimization of the innocent to this day - you have provided no rebuttal than your fear of seeing your past or showing any alternative your religion has accomplished.

Said the loser that to back up his modern day accusations against Christians, keep posting pictures from CENTURIES AGO.


What a loser. What a moron.


Dude. ALL CULTURES HAVE ABUSES IN THEIR HISTORY. That is all you are demonstrating. And that you are a fool.


Sorry, but I must have missed the 'pictures'....but is it a reference to the Inquisitions?

If so, it is a snowflake compared to an avalanche.

The 'abuses' due to religion are miniscule compared to the religion of the Left, Militant Secularism.
It totals something like 17 million deaths throughout history versus 170 million.



Solzhenitsyn compares the Inquisitions to Russia when the atheistic Bolsheviks took over:

a. Before the Russian Revolution, the number of execution by the czarist government came to seventeen (17) per year, according to Solzhenitsyn. He pointed out that, in comparison, the Spanish Inquisition, at its height, destroyed 10 people per month.

But, during the revolutionary years 1918-1919, Lenin's Cheka executed, without trial, more than one thousand (1,000) people a month.
At the height of Stalin's terror, 1937-1938, tens of thousands of people were shot per month. Solzhenitsyn, "Warning To The West."


b. From Solzhenitsyn's "Warning To The West,"... "Here are the figures: 17 a year, 10 a month, more than 1 ,000 a month, more than 40,000 a month! Thus, that which had made it difficult for the democratic West to form an alliance with pre-revolutionary Russia had, by 1941, grown to such an extent and still did not prevent the entire united democracy ofthe world — England, France, the United States, Canada, and other small countries — from entering into a military alliance with the Soviet Union, How is this to be explained? How can we understand it? " Full text of "Solzhenitsyn: The Voice of Freedom"

At first he made a claim about current day Christians and posted a picture from a large Klan rally obviously from the second rise of the Klan back in the 1920s. If not earlier.


I laughed in his face and called him on his bullshit, so of course, he doubled down and started posting drawings from CENTURIES EARLIER.


He is a pathetic loser of an anti-Christian bigot.


Seems that one is ignorant of the Klan being anti-religion, and FDR's first nominee to the Supreme Court, Hugo Black was a Klan official who inserted 'separation of church and state' into our juresprudencde.
"... Black was head of new members for the largest Klan cell in the South. New members of the KKK had to pledge their allegiance to the “eternal separation of Church and State.”... Separation was a crucial part of the KKK’s jurisprudential agenda. It was included in the Klansman’s Creed..." Hugo Black and the real history of "the wall of separation between church and state"]
 

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