Enough is enough - use RICO to restore science respect.

[Wyatt earp]

Donald, you are really behind. Research both sides for yourself and them make a decision.

That's just it. There are no "both sides"! This issue has been settled long ago.

IPCC Fifth Assessment Synthesis Report

Climate change has been settled 10,000~ 100,000 years ago, this is you and your ilks game...you want to blend in natural climate change, man made climate change and pollution all in one.

We don't have meaningful data to draw a statistical conclusion. Post in another thousand years then we can analyze accurate data.

 

[DonaldFG]

Do you think oceans can't absorb heat? Do you understand basic chemistry and physics, energy budget, etc? Do you understand any science whatsoever?

Fact remains ... this year is smashing all record books.

Global warming is real. Feel free to remain ignorant for god only knows what reason.

Not the point! AR5 and "The hotterest Summa EHAV!!!!!!" are an accounting fiction caused by adding a whole new flexible data set (deep oceans. What was the temperature of the "Deep oceans" 150 years ago?) to the equations

That is simply not true. These are land temperatures. This is the hottest year on record.
Climate at a Glance | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

Even in the US this summer and fall have been way above average except in Alaska. You can feel it yourself wherever you are. It's damn hot. Open your eyes dammit. Global warming is real.

Glowarm and cc have been happening for millions of years. Geological cycles. We're but a pinprick.

The hockey stick statistic has not happened before. Humans are doing this. (Ref: Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth)

The hockey stick (or Hokey Schitck) is an outright fabrication and a lie.. Even a random number generator with the MCV (Mann Correction Vector) applied will show a dam hockey stick.

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As I stated before, lies don't solve anything.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Wasn't there a headline or two in the last week or so warning of a coming mini ice age?

And that's good because the climate change kooks have been one ice age down since they warned one was on the way 35-40 years ago.

Misinformation is rampant. That is why we need to clean up all the garbage disguised as facts. Those who create fake facts should be held accountable. Global warming is affecting the climate, so what does lying get you? So far the warming oceans are having a huge impact on the weather.

Lets start by cleaning up your garbage, shall we?

Below are two rates of warming from the Hadcrut3 lower troposphere. One is from the period 1900 through 1950 and the the other is 1951 through 2000. Below each is the rate of warming.

The trend for the period 1900-1950 is 0.51 deg C or 0.103/decade

This trend occurred before CO2 became a rapidly increasing according to the IPCC and is near or is the Natural Variation rate.

The trend for 1951-2000 is 0.50 deg C or 0.100 deg C/decade.

Now, this means that the two rates of warming are statistically insignificant DESPITE the rapid rise in CO2 and equal to NATURAL VARIATION..

So by simple observation we can see the problem with the hypothesis of runaway temp caused by CO2. During the time they claim runway rise it was nothing of the sort and even given the rise in CO2 there was no discernible increase in that natural rise.

LET ME REPEAT; THERE WAS NO DISCERNIBLE INCREASE IN NATURAL TEMPERATURE RISE..... This means the added CO2 IS NOT A FACTOR!

NOW lets look at the last 18 years 8 months where there has been NO WARMING and yet CO2 still rose.

Both show CO2 has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHANGES and NATURAL VARIATION CAN BE SHOWN TO BE 100% responsible.

Get real, my friend.

Summary Information | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

No data is worth it's salt till the 1990s and ocean temperature since 2004

And the only way to see if it's a trend is to the year 3090

 

[Billy_Bob]

Wasn't there a headline or two in the last week or so warning of a coming mini ice age?

And that's good because the climate change kooks have been one ice age down since they warned one was on the way 35-40 years ago.

Misinformation is rampant. That is why we need to clean up all the garbage disguised as facts. Those who create fake facts should be held accountable. Global warming is affecting the climate, so what does lying get you? So far the warming oceans are having a huge impact on the weather.

Lets start by cleaning up your garbage, shall we?

Below are two rates of warming from the Hadcrut3 lower troposphere. One is from the period 1900 through 1950 and the the other is 1951 through 2000. Below each is the rate of warming.

The trend for the period 1900-1950 is 0.51 deg C or 0.103/decade

This trend occurred before CO2 became a rapidly increasing according to the IPCC and is near or is the Natural Variation rate.

The trend for 1951-2000 is 0.50 deg C or 0.100 deg C/decade.

Now, this means that the two rates of warming are statistically insignificant DESPITE the rapid rise in CO2 and equal to NATURAL VARIATION..

So by simple observation we can see the problem with the hypothesis of runaway temp caused by CO2. During the time they claim runway rise it was nothing of the sort and even given the rise in CO2 there was no discernible increase in that natural rise.

LET ME REPEAT; THERE WAS NO DISCERNIBLE INCREASE IN NATURAL TEMPERATURE RISE..... This means the added CO2 IS NOT A FACTOR!

NOW lets look at the last 18 years 8 months where there has been NO WARMING and yet CO2 still rose.

Both show CO2 has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHANGES and NATURAL VARIATION CAN BE SHOWN TO BE 100% responsible.

Get real, my friend.

Summary Information | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

Taking lessons form Old fraud and highly adjusted data sets. But then we have reality in RSS and UAH which covers from 82.5 S lat to 82.5 N Lat which shows your highly adjusted data as crap.. The historical climate network has been heavily adjusted and covers just 31% of the earth while satellites cover some 94% of the earth..

Oh and then there is the well sited US-CRN which shows your lies as well...

And then there is Empirical review of Karl Et Al and his lies ..

Your crap is just that... Lies, deceit and not a lick of science anywhere to be found..

 

[DonaldFG]

There is only one way for science to regain respect.

They must be open and honest.
They must make all data public.
They must show their work (math, methods, Etc)
They must be transparent and be OPEN TO PUBLIC DEBATE..
They must remember the key roll of the scientific method is to disprove the hypothesis by systematically ruling out all possibilities.
They must remain skeptical of all findings.

The science is NOT SETTLED..

The SCIENCE IS NOT CLEAR because the science has been politicized and is being used for a world domination agenda.

The word "CONSENSUS" is political and not scientific.

Threatening those, who do not agree with your religion, with prison or death is not even funny, we might mistake you for a radical Muslim extremist..

Just as the science on gravity is not settled; and yet, we are still stuck to the ground. Some things are obvious.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's just it. There are no "both sides"! This issue has been settled long ago.

IPCC Fifth Assessment Synthesis Report

So you claim that the sun orbiting the Earth is "settled science" and cannot be questioned by "deniers" and other heretics?

Something about you is familiar...

 

[Uncensored2008]

Just as the science on gravity is not settled; and yet, we are still stuck to the ground. Some things are obvious.

Other than a 7th grade science class, do you have ANY knowledge of the scientific method or the processes used?

You support leftist politics, you know nothing of science.

 

[daws101]

That might be ok if it were actually happening.since it's not....

Keep deluding yourself about that.

as always that would be you.

Nice retort there, hammer. Anything of substance to add, or will you go back to your normal AlGore worship?

If you ever present substance I will reply with substance.

All your posts have about as much substance as dot com has intellect.

Bold statement for someone who has neither .

 

[daws101]

Donald, you are really behind. Research both sides for yourself and them make a decision.

That's just it. There are no "both sides"! This issue has been settled long ago.

IPCC Fifth Assessment Synthesis Report

Climate change has been settled 10,000~ 100,000 years ago, this is you and your ilks game...you want to blend in natural climate change, man made climate change and pollution all in one.

We don't have meaningful data to draw a statistical conclusion. Post in another thousand years then we can analyze accurate data.

really both dates you quoted were ice ages.

 

[martybegan]

Keep deluding yourself about that.

as always that would be you.

Nice retort there, hammer. Anything of substance to add, or will you go back to your normal AlGore worship?

If you ever present substance I will reply with substance.

All your posts have about as much substance as dot com has intellect.

Bold statement for someone who has neither .

 

[daws101]

Just as the science on gravity is not settled; and yet, we are still stuck to the ground. Some things are obvious.

Other than a 7th grade science class, do you have ANY knowledge of the scientific method or the processes used?

You support leftist politics, you know nothing of science.

Two entertaining posts from the minster of fascist propaganda.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What cash cow? The climatologist community isn't making any money from this. Just their normal paychecks.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

The lies you moron cultists tell...

 

[daws101]

as always that would be you.

Nice retort there, hammer. Anything of substance to add, or will you go back to your normal AlGore worship?

If you ever present substance I will reply with substance.

All your posts have about as much substance as dot com has intellect.

Bold statement for someone who has neither .

Yet another failed attempt at humor.

 

[DonaldFG]

The AGWCult is a bigger fraud than Bernie Madoff and SHOULD be procecuted nder RICO

Wrong. It's the truth. You can't handle the truth.

LOL@ Truth

All of a sudden in AR5 you have to add in "Warming" that been consumed by the deep oceans just to make your numbers work

LOL

Do you think oceans can't absorb heat? Do you understand basic chemistry and physics, energy budget, etc? Do you understand any science whatsoever?

Fact remains ... this year is smashing all record books.

Global warming is real. Feel free to remain ignorant for god only knows what reason.

No, the facts are the "record" temps are five times lower than the instruments can measure. Do you not understand simple math? The claim is the record has been broken by . 038 C. The problem of course is that NOAA admits their instruments are only accurate to within .1 degree C. Do you see the problem there? I'll make it easy for you....I can make the claim that the temps DROPPED by .038 degree and be just as accurate.

Apparently, you are having fun making things up.

 

[martybegan]

Nice retort there, hammer. Anything of substance to add, or will you go back to your normal AlGore worship?

If you ever present substance I will reply with substance.

All your posts have about as much substance as dot com has intellect.

Bold statement for someone who has neither .

Yet another failed attempt at humor.

Everyone else is laughing, and it's AT you, not WITH you.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Two entertaining posts from the minster of fascist propaganda.

You ignorantly toss about terms you don't grasp, yet again. You have no idea what fascism is.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The AGWCult is a bigger fraud than Bernie Madoff and SHOULD be procecuted nder RICO

Wrong. It's the truth. You can't handle the truth.

LOL@ Truth

All of a sudden in AR5 you have to add in "Warming" that been consumed by the deep oceans just to make your numbers work

LOL

Do you think oceans can't absorb heat? Do you understand basic chemistry and physics, energy budget, etc? Do you understand any science whatsoever?

Fact remains ... this year is smashing all record books.

Global warming is real. Feel free to remain ignorant for god only knows what reason.

No, the facts are the "record" temps are five times lower than the instruments can measure. Do you not understand simple math? The claim is the record has been broken by . 038 C. The problem of course is that NOAA admits their instruments are only accurate to within .1 degree C. Do you see the problem there? I'll make it easy for you....I can make the claim that the temps DROPPED by .038 degree and be just as accurate.

Apparently, you are having fun making things up.

Actually, Westwall is grounded in empirical evidence, you however, are not..

 

[Uncensored2008]

As I stated before, lies don't solve anything.

Then why do you keep telling them?

 

[daws101]

If you ever present substance I will reply with substance.

All your posts have about as much substance as dot com has intellect.

Bold statement for someone who has neither .

Yet another failed attempt at humor.

Everyone else is laughing, and it's AT you, not WITH you.

You say that like it's supposed to have some relavance, when in reality it's an appeal to the masses fallicy and has none.

 

[daws101]

Two entertaining posts from the minster of fascist propaganda.

You ignorantly toss about terms you don't grasp, yet again. You have no idea what fascism is.

Right you just keep thinking that.