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You're making my point. People assimilated and learned English because they had to. If you have two separate language systems going then they wont have to anymore. And they wont.A problem that doesnt exist NOW. But in 25 years it might.It has nothing to do with borders but a rather a respect to the many ethnic groups that founded our country and a nod to reality - English is the major language. Without good English skills, you will not get very far in this country in terms of being hired, advancing etc. Why do we need to waste our time on money on a bill that is essentially - a solution looking for a problem which doesn't exist?
I have seen bilingual societies, like Canada and Belgium. They fucking dont work. Screw people. You want to communicate with the govt, speak English. You want to do business in Chinese, no problem.
We've had centuries of immigrant waves bringing with them their languages and customs. At times - major immigration hubs like NYC hosted native-language posters and business' in Chinese, Russian, Yiddish, Italian amongst many. Eventually, they all end up speaking good English even if it takes several generations.
We're not heading to a bilinqual society like Canada which has two officially recognized languages. We have one, it does not need to be "official". I
A nation can only survive and prosper with a common language and common culture.S. 678: A bill to declare English as the official language of the United States, to establish a uniform English language rule for naturalization, and to avoid misconstructions of the English language texts of the laws of the United States, pursuant to Congress’ powers to provide for the general welfare of the United States and to establish a uniform rule of naturalization under article I, section 8, of the Constitution.
Introduced by Senator Inhofe and sent to committee Mar 9, 2015
I appreciate that we have a diverse American society. But, official correspondence and material should be written by the language of the majority of American citizens – and that's English.
Why do we need to tell people we like them? Thats absurd.I agree completely regarding your point on natural selection, but you have it backwards in your last sentence.English is the defacto language like it or not. If you want to succeed in this country you need to speak good English. You don't need a law for that, it's natural selection. The law is just another way of tellling those who's first or best language isn't English that "you aren't American, we don't like you".
Wanting people to assimilate tells them "we DO like you, we want you to succeed, we don't want you isolated from the American dream and we want you to take advantage of the benefits of assimilation".
Seems to me that isolating people from society is far more hurtful.
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It would be, but how is making a law stating that English is the official language telling them we do like you? Providing the means to learn the language and the encouragement to do so is sufficient.
S. 678: A bill to declare English as the official language of the United States, to establish a uniform English language rule for naturalization, and to avoid misconstructions of the English language texts of the laws of the United States, pursuant to Congress’ powers to provide for the general welfare of the United States and to establish a uniform rule of naturalization under article I, section 8, of the Constitution.
Introduced by Senator Inhofe and sent to committee Mar 9, 2015
I appreciate that we have a diverse American society. But, official correspondence and material should be written by the language of the majority of American citizens – and that's English.
We communicate in English here. If you don't like it, there's the door..Tough shit.I think it deals with official document.
I cannot stand to receive my sample ballot and find it's in English AND SPANISH! If I want to vote in Spanish, I'll go to Mexico.
Then leave.
Just get the fuck out.
This country is not for you.
Why do you live here if our way of life, our multi-cultural society make you so miserable?
Just Fuck Off. Find happiness somewhere else.
A common language is racist?.....Wow....Or is that you out of ideas and just lashing out with irrational rantings?Racist, xenophobic theater. Next up, the Save the White Babies bill...Theater for the rubes.S. 678: A bill to declare English as the official language of the United States, to establish a uniform English language rule for naturalization, and to avoid misconstructions of the English language texts of the laws of the United States, pursuant to Congress’ powers to provide for the general welfare of the United States and to establish a uniform rule of naturalization under article I, section 8, of the Constitution.
Introduced by Senator Inhofe and sent to committee Mar 9, 2015
When in doubt, scream "racist".A common language is racist?.....Wow....Or is that you out of ideas and just lashing out with irrational rantings?Racist, xenophobic theater. Next up, the Save the White Babies bill...Theater for the rubes.S. 678: A bill to declare English as the official language of the United States, to establish a uniform English language rule for naturalization, and to avoid misconstructions of the English language texts of the laws of the United States, pursuant to Congress’ powers to provide for the general welfare of the United States and to establish a uniform rule of naturalization under article I, section 8, of the Constitution.
Introduced by Senator Inhofe and sent to committee Mar 9, 2015
I don't think the Indians spoke English....the United States was founded in English.....why should we include Mexico's language or Comanche.....?Many countries have more than one official language. So probably it would make sense to include English, Spanish, sign language, and the Native American languages (at the very least) if the government is going to establish official languages.Why should it be the "official" language when 1/4 of our country was founded in Spanish and then taken over by us?
English is the defacto language like it or not. If you want to succeed in this country you need to speak good English. You don't need a law for that, it's natural selection. The law is just another way of tellling those who's first or best language isn't English that "you aren't American, we don't like you".
A nation can only survive and prosper with a common language and common culture.S. 678: A bill to declare English as the official language of the United States, to establish a uniform English language rule for naturalization, and to avoid misconstructions of the English language texts of the laws of the United States, pursuant to Congress’ powers to provide for the general welfare of the United States and to establish a uniform rule of naturalization under article I, section 8, of the Constitution.
Introduced by Senator Inhofe and sent to committee Mar 9, 2015
I appreciate that we have a diverse American society. But, official correspondence and material should be written by the language of the majority of American citizens – and that's English.
Even the French Canadians speak ( grudgingly) English...
In Europe, Western and Eastern as well as the Pacific Rim, all students are required to learn English. The international language of Aviation and Maritime operations is English.
All federal business here in the US should be English only.
Should public school kids in the US be required to study a second language? Absolutely....I suggest Mandarin Chinese.
Why? Because like it or not, China is our number one trading partner....Not only that, anyone who has an interest in international business may find themselves in a meeting with a Chinese national that may not quite have the grasp on English.
You're making my point. People assimilated and learned English because they had to. If you have two separate language systems going then they wont have to anymore. And they wont.A problem that doesnt exist NOW. But in 25 years it might.It has nothing to do with borders but a rather a respect to the many ethnic groups that founded our country and a nod to reality - English is the major language. Without good English skills, you will not get very far in this country in terms of being hired, advancing etc. Why do we need to waste our time on money on a bill that is essentially - a solution looking for a problem which doesn't exist?
I have seen bilingual societies, like Canada and Belgium. They fucking dont work. Screw people. You want to communicate with the govt, speak English. You want to do business in Chinese, no problem.
We've had centuries of immigrant waves bringing with them their languages and customs. At times - major immigration hubs like NYC hosted native-language posters and business' in Chinese, Russian, Yiddish, Italian amongst many. Eventually, they all end up speaking good English even if it takes several generations.
We're not heading to a bilinqual society like Canada which has two officially recognized languages. We have one, it does not need to be "official". I
My great grandfather lived here for like 50 years. He never learned English. It was a real handicap to him.
S. 678: A bill to declare English as the official language of the United States, to establish a uniform English language rule for naturalization, and to avoid misconstructions of the English language texts of the laws of the United States, pursuant to Congress’ powers to provide for the general welfare of the United States and to establish a uniform rule of naturalization under article I, section 8, of the Constitution.
Introduced by Senator Inhofe and sent to committee Mar 9, 2015
I appreciate that we have a diverse American society. But, official correspondence and material should be written by the language of the majority of American citizens – and that's English.
Thats the normal trajectory.You're making my point. People assimilated and learned English because they had to. If you have two separate language systems going then they wont have to anymore. And they wont.A problem that doesnt exist NOW. But in 25 years it might.It has nothing to do with borders but a rather a respect to the many ethnic groups that founded our country and a nod to reality - English is the major language. Without good English skills, you will not get very far in this country in terms of being hired, advancing etc. Why do we need to waste our time on money on a bill that is essentially - a solution looking for a problem which doesn't exist?
I have seen bilingual societies, like Canada and Belgium. They fucking dont work. Screw people. You want to communicate with the govt, speak English. You want to do business in Chinese, no problem.
We've had centuries of immigrant waves bringing with them their languages and customs. At times - major immigration hubs like NYC hosted native-language posters and business' in Chinese, Russian, Yiddish, Italian amongst many. Eventually, they all end up speaking good English even if it takes several generations.
We're not heading to a bilinqual society like Canada which has two officially recognized languages. We have one, it does not need to be "official". I
My great grandfather lived here for like 50 years. He never learned English. It was a real handicap to him.
I think most do - often, though it's the second generation. I have a friend who's parents are Chinese and she's American born. She speaks both languages fluently but her parents depend on her to translate in many situations. My cousin married a Bolivian, she raised both her sons bilingual. When they moved back to the states, she made sure they remained bilinqual.
S. 678: A bill to declare English as the official language of the United States, to establish a uniform English language rule for naturalization, and to avoid misconstructions of the English language texts of the laws of the United States, pursuant to Congress’ powers to provide for the general welfare of the United States and to establish a uniform rule of naturalization under article I, section 8, of the Constitution.
Introduced by Senator Inhofe and sent to committee Mar 9, 2015
I appreciate that we have a diverse American society. But, official correspondence and material should be written by the language of the majority of American citizens – and that's English.
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Historically, the death of many societies came about with the disruption of linguistic unity, fragmenting societies and reducing their abilities to grow and flourish....
Yeah, forget it.I appreciate that we have a diverse American society. But, official correspondence and material should be written by the language of the majority of American citizens – and that's English.
English, the language of anther country, so what are you so damn worried about?
I agree completely regarding your point on natural selection, but you have it backwards in your last sentence.English is the defacto language like it or not. If you want to succeed in this country you need to speak good English. You don't need a law for that, it's natural selection. The law is just another way of tellling those who's first or best language isn't English that "you aren't American, we don't like you".
Wanting people to assimilate tells them "we DO like you, we want you to succeed, we don't want you isolated from the American dream and we want you to take advantage of the benefits of assimilation".
Seems to me that isolating people from society is far more hurtful. Lowering standards helps no one in the long run.
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Yeah, forget it.I appreciate that we have a diverse American society. But, official correspondence and material should be written by the language of the majority of American citizens – and that's English.
As we become more culturally divided, we'll become more divided by language too.
E Pluribus Unum is dead, assimilation is really mean, we now must accommodate every identity statutorily.
That ship has sailed.
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