Elizabeth Warren Fights Back Against the "Magical Accounting" of Trickle-Down Economics

[Uncensored2008]

They continue to bring up bankrupt Detroit, I'll bring up corrupt and Republican run Louisiana.

Yes. Republicans like Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco made a complete mess.

The problem with you Communists isn't that you incessantly lie, oh, yes it is - that exactly the problem. Zero ethics.

 

[Vigilante]

Elizabeth Warren is worth millions!!!!!

CNN ^

Senator Elizabeth Warren fights for middle- and working-class Americans. But she's part of the Top 1%. Warren, the Harvard bankruptcy law professor, and phony Indian, elected to the Senate in 2012, is worth between $3.7 million and $10 million.

I guess the only thing you have in your tool box is character assassination. Did her earnings pollute are air, water or soil? Or should she be poor, would that impact her message?

She may be worth millions, but your opinions are worthless.

Yes, another MILLIONAIR Liberal pond scum, that preaches do as I say, not as I DO! ... And we are supposed to listen to you, a retard with a low 2 digit IQ, and a socialist agenda.... The founders would be so proud of you, perhaps we should name you Aaron Burr Catcher!

 

[Vigilante]

Elizabeth Warren is worth millions!!!!!

CNN ^

Senator Elizabeth Warren fights for middle- and working-class Americans. But she's part of the Top 1%. Warren, the Harvard bankruptcy law professor, and phony Indian, elected to the Senate in 2012, is worth between $3.7 million and $10 million.

The net worth of the progressive democrats in congress is over 3 times that of the Republicans.

And they got rich off the backs of the POOR and MINORITIES!!!...AND GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION!

 

[Wry Catcher]

I can believe someone as stupid as you appear to be can even turn on a computer.

Now that's funny, especially since I imagine it wasn't intentional.

But you thought trickle down was good? That was highway robbery of the American worker.

But you thought trickle down was good? That was highway robbery of the American worker.

When Reagan cut all tax brackets, that robbed the American worker? How?

Be specific.

Reagan's tax cuts eliminated middle and working class deductions, such as tool purchases and union dues.

Why should union dues be a deduction?

And last time I checked you can still write off equipment costs

They had always been a deduction, why do you think Reagan signed off on the 'reform' of the tax code? I can't go through the entire tax code but unless someone can prove to me it is not as large as it is for any reason but to aid the special interests.
Face the truth, the tax system isn't fair and never will be. It is so because the nation needs the revenue and The Congress is owned by white collar criminals and populated by white collar criminals who write the laws.

When was the last time the Congress voted themselves a cut in salary or beneftis? They ask others to accept less and do more; The 113th Congress didn't earn a dime they accepted as pay.

So what if they always had been?

They shouldn't be

People used to be able to deduct the interest on the car loans too and that was done away with.

Yep, and most middle class and lower earners can't afford to pay cash for a new car or even a good used car. Those of us who can simply buy the car without needing a loan. So that elimination is regressive too.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Democrats are channeling their Inner Mao.

Kill the Rich

Kill the Rich

Kill the Rich

While they keep their "riches" stashed in the banks or in their Freezers. I'm amazed people still fall for this crap

Most of the Dem base is isolated from the US economy, they depend upon government for their survival. When their Bosses Yell, "You didn't built that! or Kill the Rich!" it just doesn't resonate with them. They can't understand how there's something other than the government at work in their lives

Most of the Republican base are dumb, CrusderFrank and Stephanie being the most obvious. I once compared CrusaderFrank to being dumb as a box of rocks. Later I needed to apologize to all rocks, as they at least understood it is better to remain silent than to prove how dumb they really are.

Both the dim duo noted above and others in the Crazy Right Wing parrot the propaganda feed them by those whose earnings are based on how much pother they can create - Limbaugh, Hannity, et al.

Sen. Warren is framing the problem in economic terms, the dim duo and others like them cannot fathom the fact that the ideology of extremism they support is always short lived, and collapses as its foundation is built on hot air.

How stupid must you be in order to place blame for today's economy on Conservatives?

You must be Wry Stupid!

Obama has been president these past 6 years and has gotten 99% of everything he's asked for, yet the uneducated, gullible, silly and yes, Wry stupid, blame...ready...hope you're sitting... Conservatives! Yes! Can you believe that?

The last time this nation had a Conservative President and supportive Congress was back when Coolidge was President

Warren is espousing government control of the economy and incomes. Call it Marxism, Fascism, Socialism, I don't care, but that what it is.

And the Progs welcome it

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Lizzy Cheekbones got rich on the backs of the Cherokee Indians

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

<more>

There's a lot hiding in that <more>. Like "tax the rich more".

Warren didn't spell out how she'd achieve these goals.

So just another whiner with no answers.

First define the problem, next look at all possible solutions, no matter how silly or how unlikely they might be in solving the problem.

Sen. Warren is in the process of defining the problem.

Clearly, our economic woes commenced before the passage of the PPACA and the Obama Administration. Just as clearly the stubborn insistence by the extreme conservatives in Congress has created a paralysis, one which serves no one but the ambition of public servents who put their career first. In doing so they have slowed the economy and allowed our nations infrastructure to further 'rest'.

Sen Warren is asking a simple question:

Why are we continuing economic policies that are only helping the wealthy? Why can't government policies stand up for working Americans for once?

Why are we continuing economic policies that are only helping the wealthy?

I agree. Sealing the border and booting 10 million illegals would help the working class.

How would it? What might be the consequences of all of those small businesses failing all at once? How much will it cost to detain and provide due process to ten million people? How much to feed and provide health care?

How would it?

How would booting millions of low-skilled illegals who compete with American workers, dropping US wages, help the working class? Are you serious?

How much will it cost to detain and provide due process to ten million people?

Make it impossible for them to work or get government benefits and they'll head back on their own.
Offer them a free bus ticket and they'll head back faster.

How much to feed and provide health care?

Less once they're gone.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

First define the problem, next look at all possible solutions, no matter how silly or how unlikely they might be in solving the problem.

Sen. Warren is in the process of defining the problem.

Clearly, our economic woes commenced before the passage of the PPACA and the Obama Administration. Just as clearly the stubborn insistence by the extreme conservatives in Congress has created a paralysis, one which serves no one but the ambition of public servents who put their career first. In doing so they have slowed the economy and allowed our nations infrastructure to further 'rest'.

Sen Warren is asking a simple question:

Why are we continuing economic policies that are only helping the wealthy? Why can't government policies stand up for working Americans for once?

Which supposedly means something other than forced government redistribution

uh huh

Redistribution affects wealth that has already been realized

Changing Government policies about future wealth is not redistribution

No?

What is it then?

What it is, is a new playing field with different rules

Guess who was making up the rules before Frankie?

Obama, Pelosi and Reid

 

[Vigilante]

 

[Freewill]

They continue to bring up bankrupt Detroit, I'll bring up corrupt and Republican run Louisiana.

Of course, keep doing it, one is true the other is just a figment of your imagination. Or let me say Louisiana isn't any more corrupt it was when democrats ran the place.

 

[Freewill]

I have yet to see one suggestion that addresses what the squaw is squawking about. I see no post where the how the tax code can be made more fair for the middle class.

Warren's question might as well be; "Why don't we just call Superman in to solve world peace?"

 

[Vigilante]

 

[rightwinger]

I have yet to see one suggestion that addresses what the squaw is squawking about. I see no post where the how the tax code can be made more fair for the middle class.

Warren's question might as well be; "Why don't we just call Superman in to solve world peace?"

Can I try?

Tax capital gains at the same rate as earned income
Return to pre-1980 tax rates for those making over $1 million
Make all medical expenses tax deductable
Make all education expenses tax deductable
Increase the minimum wage to $10 and add automatic increases tied to the cost of living
Incentivize businesses that are creating jobs and punish those who are sending jobs over seas

 

[Wry Catcher]

Elizabeth Warren is worth millions!!!!!

CNN ^

Senator Elizabeth Warren fights for middle- and working-class Americans. But she's part of the Top 1%. Warren, the Harvard bankruptcy law professor, and phony Indian, elected to the Senate in 2012, is worth between $3.7 million and $10 million.

I guess the only thing you have in your tool box is character assassination. Did her earnings pollute are air, water or soil? Or should she be poor, would that impact her message?

She may be worth millions, but your opinions are worthless.

Yes, another MILLIONAIR Liberal pond scum, that preaches do as I say, not as I DO! ... And we are supposed to listen to you, a retard with a low 2 digit IQ, and a socialist agenda.... The founders would be so proud of you, perhaps we should name you Aaron Burr Catcher!

I'm beginning to believe Vigilante is nuts. I hereby give him permission not to read what I write, for the truth will set him tumid.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I can believe someone as stupid as you appear to be can even turn on a computer.

Now that's funny, especially since I imagine it wasn't intentional.

But you thought trickle down was good? That was highway robbery of the American worker.

When Reagan cut all tax brackets, that robbed the American worker? How?

Be specific.

Reagan's tax cuts eliminated middle and working class deductions, such as tool purchases and union dues.

Why should union dues be a deduction?

And last time I checked you can still write off equipment costs

They had always been a deduction, why do you think Reagan signed off on the 'reform' of the tax code? I can't go through the entire tax code but unless someone can prove to me it is not as large as it is for any reason but to aid the special interests.
Face the truth, the tax system isn't fair and never will be. It is so because the nation needs the revenue and The Congress is owned by white collar criminals and populated by white collar criminals who write the laws.

When was the last time the Congress voted themselves a cut in salary or beneftis? They ask others to accept less and do more; The 113th Congress didn't earn a dime they accepted as pay.

So what if they always had been?

They shouldn't be

People used to be able to deduct the interest on the car loans too and that was done away with.

Yep, and most middle class and lower earners can't afford to pay cash for a new car or even a good used car. Those of us who can simply buy the car without needing a loan are the few, thus that elimination is regressive too.

 

[Vigilante]

Elizabeth Warren is worth millions!!!!!

CNN ^

Senator Elizabeth Warren fights for middle- and working-class Americans. But she's part of the Top 1%. Warren, the Harvard bankruptcy law professor, and phony Indian, elected to the Senate in 2012, is worth between $3.7 million and $10 million.

I guess the only thing you have in your tool box is character assassination. Did her earnings pollute are air, water or soil? Or should she be poor, would that impact her message?

She may be worth millions, but your opinions are worthless.

Yes, another MILLIONAIR Liberal pond scum, that preaches do as I say, not as I DO! ... And we are supposed to listen to you, a retard with a low 2 digit IQ, and a socialist agenda.... The founders would be so proud of you, perhaps we should name you Aaron Burr Catcher!

I'm beginning to believe Vigilante is nuts. I hereby give him permission not to read what I write, for the truth will set him tumid.

You're lucky I don't fill your Lesbian Warren thread up with cool pictures, and ruin your ******* day... She's a socialist scumbag!!!! Just the oboamnation in a PAINTS SUIT...Now what other Socialist scumbag wears a pants suit?...Hmmm!

 

[Freewill]

I have yet to see one suggestion that addresses what the squaw is squawking about. I see no post where the how the tax code can be made more fair for the middle class.

Warren's question might as well be; "Why don't we just call Superman in to solve world peace?"

Can I try?

Tax capital gains at the same rate as earned income
Return to pre-1980 tax rates for those making over $1 million
Make all medical expenses tax deductable
Make all education expenses tax deductable
Increase the minimum wage to $10 and add automatic increases tied to the cost of living
Incentivize businesses that are creating jobs and punish those who are sending jobs over seas

Tax capital gains at the same rate as earned income: How does that help the middle class?
Return to pre-1980 tax rates for those making over $1 million So they can pay more of the share? How does that help the middle class?
Make all medical expenses tax deductable A tax cut for everyone I can agree with.
Make all education expenses tax deductable A tax cut for everyone I can agree with. Do that and no one will be able to afford college.
Increase the minimum wage to $10 and add automatic increases tied to the cost of living How does that help the middle class?
Incentivize businesses that are creating jobs and punish those who are sending jobs over sea The only real good idea but a little too late, needed to do this when Clinton was passing free trade agreements.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Democrats finally came out and openly embraced their inner Mao

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Warren is a joke.

What kind of a fool checks that she's a minority based upon her cheekbones?

 

[Sarah G]

I have yet to see one suggestion that addresses what the squaw is squawking about. I see no post where the how the tax code can be made more fair for the middle class.

Warren's question might as well be; "Why don't we just call Superman in to solve world peace?"

All you have to do is read unless of course you have comprehension problems, which is entirely possible from what I've seen here.