Eli Manning has announced...........

[rightwinger]

Eli was never a top-five quarterback any year he played. Utterly average.

....

Eli is the reason Tom Brady doesn’t have eight rings

As I said, he’ll get in because of a Tom and a Peyton, not because of an Eli.

Eli is 7th all time in yardage and TDs

 

[rightwinger]

All time passing

1 Drew Brees 77,416 2001-2019 2TM
2 Tom Brady 74,571 2000-2019 nwe
3 Peyton Manning 71,940 1998-2015 2TM
4 Brett Favre+ 71,838 1991-2010 4TM
5 Dan Marino+ 61,361 1983-1999 mia
6 Philip Rivers 59,271 2004-2019 sdg
7 Eli Manning 57,023 2004-2019 nyg
8 Ben Roethlisberger 56,545 2004-2019 pit

 

[rightwinger]

Is Eli Manning one of the greatest QBs of all time? No
Is he a Hall of Famer? Without question

 

[Unkotare]

Eli was never a top-five quarterback any year he played. Utterly average.

....

Eli is the reason Tom Brady doesn’t have eight rings

As I said, he’ll get in because of a Tom and a Peyton, not because of an Eli.

Eli is 7th all time in yardage and TDs

Over 16 years of average play. Most QBs don’t play 16 years.

 

[rightwinger]

Eli was never a top-five quarterback any year he played. Utterly average.

....

Eli is the reason Tom Brady doesn’t have eight rings

As I said, he’ll get in because of a Tom and a Peyton, not because of an Eli.

Eli is 7th all time in yardage and TDs

Over 16 years of average play. Most QBs don’t play 16 years.

Most QBs are not two time SB MVPs

 

[Unkotare]

NFC player of the month ONCE in 16 years.

 

[rightwinger]

NFC player of the month ONCE in 16 years.

SB MVP.......TWICE

 

[22lcidw]

NFC player of the month ONCE in 16 years.

SB MVP.......TWICE

Super bowls victories or Championships are the bell weather in Pro Football. Two Super bowls wins gives him the Hall of Fame!

 

[Rocko]

He’s going to get in. In a perfect world where the hall of fame is a meritocracy it’s debatable, but if Broadway Joe is in Eli is going in. I don’t believe he’ll get get in first ballot. Personally I lean on the side on giving him the nod. He was the most durable QB I’ve ever seen, and that should count for a lot in one of the most brutal sports. The Giants have won two Super Bowls manly because of him.

 

[CWayne]

Eli Manning defeated the greatest QB of all time, TWICE in the Super Bowl

Don't be silly, Montana retired long before Manning played.

 

[CWayne]

He’s going to get in. In a perfect world where the hall of fame is a meritocracy it’s debatable, but if Broadway Joe is in Eli is going in. I don’t believe he’ll get get in first ballot. Personally I lean on the side on giving him the nod. He was the most durable QB I’ve ever seen, and that should count for a lot in one of the most brutal sports. The Giants have won two Super Bowls manly because of him.

I'd have to disagree. Dan Fouts is the most durable QB I've ever seen.

 

[Unkotare]

NFC player of the month ONCE in 16 years.

SB MVP.......TWICE

Super bowls victories or Championships are the bell weather in Pro Football. Two Super bowls wins gives him the Hall of Fame!

Jim Plunkett. Eli is exactly the same.

 

[Unkotare]

He’s going to get in. In a perfect world where the hall of fame is a meritocracy it’s debatable, but if Broadway Joe is in Eli is going in. I don’t believe he’ll get get in first ballot. Personally I lean on the side on giving him the nod. He was the most durable QB I’ve ever seen, and that should count for a lot in one of the most brutal sports. The Giants have won two Super Bowls manly because of him.

Not because of him at all. In '07 the defense carried that team. He played well in '11, but in the end his contribution to those two wins comes down to two throws (one of which was only a completion due to a one-in-a-million catch).

Take two wins out of a 16 year career and even the most ardent huthuggers here wouldn't even be talking about it.

 

[Rocko]

He’s going to get in. In a perfect world where the hall of fame is a meritocracy it’s debatable, but if Broadway Joe is in Eli is going in. I don’t believe he’ll get get in first ballot. Personally I lean on the side on giving him the nod. He was the most durable QB I’ve ever seen, and that should count for a lot in one of the most brutal sports. The Giants have won two Super Bowls manly because of him.

I'd have to disagree. Dan Fouts is the most durable QB I've ever seen.

the Dan Fouts era was a bit before my time.

 

[CWayne]

He’s going to get in. In a perfect world where the hall of fame is a meritocracy it’s debatable, but if Broadway Joe is in Eli is going in. I don’t believe he’ll get get in first ballot. Personally I lean on the side on giving him the nod. He was the most durable QB I’ve ever seen, and that should count for a lot in one of the most brutal sports. The Giants have won two Super Bowls manly because of him.

I'd have to disagree. Dan Fouts is the most durable QB I've ever seen.

the Dan Fouts era was a bit before my time.

Well, here are the stats.

Dan Fouts Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

What the stats don't tell you is that he played behind one of the worst O-lines in football and every game, was bloodied and beat up.

In all that, he still had a pretty decent passing yardage per game.

He wasn't the best QB, but I was always impressed that he managed to come back the next week. lol

 

[Rocko]

He’s going to get in. In a perfect world where the hall of fame is a meritocracy it’s debatable, but if Broadway Joe is in Eli is going in. I don’t believe he’ll get get in first ballot. Personally I lean on the side on giving him the nod. He was the most durable QB I’ve ever seen, and that should count for a lot in one of the most brutal sports. The Giants have won two Super Bowls manly because of him.

Not because of him at all. In '07 the defense carried that team. He played well in '11, but in the end his contribution to those two wins comes down to two throws (one of which was only a completion due to a one-in-a-million catch).

Take two wins out of a 16 year career and even the most ardent huthuggers here wouldn't even be talking about it.

what individual player would you say had more of an impact than Eli? If you say the defenses won those super bowls you have an argument. But those defenses weren’t top ten defenses either. It’s not like the defenses carried him during the seasons and through both playoff appearances.

 

[Unkotare]

He’s going to get in. In a perfect world where the hall of fame is a meritocracy it’s debatable, but if Broadway Joe is in Eli is going in. I don’t believe he’ll get get in first ballot. Personally I lean on the side on giving him the nod. He was the most durable QB I’ve ever seen, and that should count for a lot in one of the most brutal sports. The Giants have won two Super Bowls manly because of him.

Not because of him at all. In '07 the defense carried that team. He played well in '11, but in the end his contribution to those two wins comes down to two throws (one of which was only a completion due to a one-in-a-million catch).

Take two wins out of a 16 year career and even the most ardent huthuggers here wouldn't even be talking about it.

what individual player would you say had more of an impact than Eli? If you say the defenses won those super bowls you have an argument. But those defenses weren’t top ten defenses either. It’s not like the defenses carried him during the seasons and through both playoff appearances.

He did not play well during either of those regular seasons. The defense DID carry him. He had two good post seasons. Four times one and done in the playoffs. Over 16 years that's hardly enough.

 

[rightwinger]

NFC player of the month ONCE in 16 years.

SB MVP.......TWICE

Super bowls victories or Championships are the bell weather in Pro Football. Two Super bowls wins gives him the Hall of Fame!

Jim Plunkett. Eli is exactly the same.

Eli is seventh all time in passing and TDs

 

[rightwinger]

He’s going to get in. In a perfect world where the hall of fame is a meritocracy it’s debatable, but if Broadway Joe is in Eli is going in. I don’t believe he’ll get get in first ballot. Personally I lean on the side on giving him the nod. He was the most durable QB I’ve ever seen, and that should count for a lot in one of the most brutal sports. The Giants have won two Super Bowls manly because of him.

Not because of him at all. In '07 the defense carried that team. He played well in '11, but in the end his contribution to those two wins comes down to two throws (one of which was only a completion due to a one-in-a-million catch).

Take two wins out of a 16 year career and even the most ardent huthuggers here wouldn't even be talking about it.

what individual player would you say had more of an impact than Eli? If you say the defenses won those super bowls you have an argument. But those defenses weren’t top ten defenses either. It’s not like the defenses carried him during the seasons and through both playoff appearances.

He did not play well during either of those regular seasons. The defense DID carry him. He had two good post seasons. Four times one and done in the playoffs. Over 16 years that's hardly enough.

He had two historic post seasons

 

[Unkotare]

He’s going to get in. In a perfect world where the hall of fame is a meritocracy it’s debatable, but if Broadway Joe is in Eli is going in. I don’t believe he’ll get get in first ballot. Personally I lean on the side on giving him the nod. He was the most durable QB I’ve ever seen, and that should count for a lot in one of the most brutal sports. The Giants have won two Super Bowls manly because of him.

Not because of him at all. In '07 the defense carried that team. He played well in '11, but in the end his contribution to those two wins comes down to two throws (one of which was only a completion due to a one-in-a-million catch).

Take two wins out of a 16 year career and even the most ardent huthuggers here wouldn't even be talking about it.

what individual player would you say had more of an impact than Eli? If you say the defenses won those super bowls you have an argument. But those defenses weren’t top ten defenses either. It’s not like the defenses carried him during the seasons and through both playoff appearances.

He did not play well during either of those regular seasons. The defense DID carry him. He had two good post seasons. Four times one and done in the playoffs. Over 16 years that's hardly enough.

He had two historic post seasons

Two consequential passes out of a 16 year career. Nowhere near enough.