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[Old Rocks]

Tesla Gives the California Power Grid a Battery Boost

Just off a freeway in Southern California, 396 refrigerator-size stacks of Tesla batteries, encased in white metal, have been hastily erected with a new mission: to suck up electricity from the grid during the day and feed it back into the system as needed, especially in the evening.

The installation, capable of powering roughly 15,000 homes over four hours, is part of an emergency response to projected energy shortages stemming from a huge leak at a natural gas storage facility.

The project, which officially came online Monday but began operating at the end of last year, is an important and surprising demonstration of how utilities can use enormous collections of batteries in place of conventional power plants.

It is also an indication of how rapidly Tesla is moving to transform itself from a maker of luxury electric cars into a multifaceted clean-energy

https://seekingalpha.com/article/40...h-australia-meets-competition-presents-upside

Summary
South Australia announces two pronged strategy involving 100MW battery storage and new gas facility to resolve its energy crisis.

Expression of interest for 100 MW grid-connected battery released yesterday with two weeks response time - South Australian Premier invites Tesla to tender.

At least three tenderers likely to compete with Tesla for the battery opportunity.

Battery installation will be a high profile test of renewable energy stability, not just in Australia but internationally. This is a substantial business opportunity for Tesla.

A battery proposal, perhaps with solar PV for additional power generation, will compete with the need to build new gas - big implications for gas as a bridge fuel.

There has been a lot of heat generated in the energy debate in South Australia and last week Australian billionaire and Atlassian co-founder Mike Cannon-Brookes threw a grenade into the debate by calling Elon Musk on a claim that Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) could fix a high profile stoush about South Australia's energy stability with a battery offering that TSLA would install within 100 days or provide it for free. I wrote about the emerging story four days ago.

There has been a lot of activity over the weekend and at the start of this week, with general support for the idea of getting out of the fossil fuel fixation to look at modern solutions to the issue.

Nothing happening with grid scale batteries, eh?

 

[Old Rocks]

First Tesla Powerpack "Grid-Scale" Installations Come To Asia-Pacific and Europe - Video

Today, Tesla Powerwall installations are spread across the world, while the utility-scale sized Tesla Powerpack energy storage system are just now getting traction outside of the U.S.

In Europe, the first installation was recently announced by Camborne Energy Storage in the UK.

While for Asia-Pacific, in New Zealand, grid provider Vector announced last Thursday that it had just installed a “grid-scale” Powerpack system in Glen Innes (Auckland) consisting of 24 Powerpacks – good for 1MW service, and 2.3 MWh of storage. (Check out Vector’s full press release here)

Camborne Energy Storage to Install the First Tesla Grid-Scale Powerpacks in Europe - Camborne Capital

Grid-scale installation of the Tesla Powerpack in Somerset seen as a major step towards greater efficiency and reliability of power delivery from renewable energy sources.

Camborne Energy Storage (“Camborne”), a UK-based developer of large-scale energy storage projects, is pleased to be installing the very first grid scale Tesla Powerpacks in Europe. With the recent arrival of the batteries to a site in Somerset, Camborne are co-locating them with a ground mounted solar PV site.

The combined solar and battery installation has the capacity to provide power for over 500 homes. Camborne has selected this design to demonstrate the ability to provide a balanced grid and grow its ambitions for pioneering co-located energy systems throughout the UK.

This installation is a significant milestone in continuing Camborne’s strategy to deploy battery energy storage across the UK. Each of the Camborne installed systems are designed to further assist and improve the efficiency of the UK’s energy infrastructure and support the renewable energy industry’s ability to provide baseload power in the future.

The Tesla Powerpacks, installed by EPC Poweri Services, have been produced specifically to operate and integrate seamlessly with the solar PV site, optimising the existing assets and providing ancillary services to National Grid.

Looks to me as if the future is now.

 

[Wyatt earp]

LOL Still living in the '50's, eh? In the next decade, we will see grid scale battery storage make wind and solar 24/7.

And that is a lie about the small footprint of the coal fired plants. That footprint includes the mountain top mining, the water sheds destroyed by that kind of mining. The fly ash spills from coal generating plants that have poisoned whole rivers. The heavy metals spewed into the air our children breathe.

Do you ever stop to think you always embarrass yourself self with your pie in the sky grid battery hoax?

I really hope you don't have thousands of dollars in that stock..
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[westwall]

In the next decade, we will see grid scale battery storage make wind and solar 24/7.

Only thing "grid scale storage" would do is BANKRUPT the utilities, make Wind and Solar MORE EXPENSIVE than anything and generate the LARGEST hazardous waste stream in the history of mankind.

And that's the truth.. That's why I funnied your post...

Really?



Oncor, which runs Texas’ largest power line network, is willing to bet battery technology is ready for wide-scale deployment across the grid.

In a move that stands to radically shift the dynamics of the industry, Oncor is set to announce Monday that it is prepared to invest more than $2 billion to store electricity in thousands of batteries across North and West Texas beginning in 2018.

Utility-scale batteries have been a holy grail within the energy sector for years. With enough storage space, surplus electricity can be generated at night, when plants usually sit idle, to be used the next day, when demand is highest. Power outages would become less frequent. Wind and solar power, susceptible to weather conditions, could be built on a larger scale. The only problem has been that the price of batteries has been too high to make economic sense. But if they’re purchased on a large enough scale, that won’t be the case for long, said Oncor CEO Bob Shapard.

“Everyone assumed the price point was five to six years out. We’re getting indications from everyone we’ve talked to they can get us to that price by 2018,” he said in an interview Wednesday.

The Dallas-based transmission company is proposing the installation of 5,000 megawatts of batteries not just in its service area but across Texas’ entire grid. That is the equivalent of four nuclear power plants on a grid with a capacity of about 81,000 megawatts.

Ranging from refrigerator- to dumpster-size, the batteries would be installed behind shopping centers and in neighborhoods. Statewide, Oncor estimates a total price tag of $5.2 billion. A study commissioned by Oncor with the Brattle Group, a Massachusetts consulting firm that provides power market analysis for state regulators, says the project would not raise bills. Revenue from rental of storage space on the batteries, along with a decrease in power prices and transmission costs, should actually decrease the average Texas residential power bill 34 cents to $179.66 a month, the report said.

At the time, Oncor stated that the point at which the batteries would be practical, would be $350 per kwhr. Tesla states in large sales, they can do $250/kwhr, and $125/kwhr in a decade.

Good, let them do it without taxpayer dollars. If they are correct it's a gamechanger and they will be instant billionaires. Let them put their money, where their mouth is.

 

[Old Rocks]

Embarrass myself? They are being installed worldwide as we speak.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Tesla Gives the California Power Grid a Battery Boost

Just off a freeway in Southern California, 396 refrigerator-size stacks of Tesla batteries, encased in white metal, have been hastily erected with a new mission: to suck up electricity from the grid during the day and feed it back into the system as needed, especially in the evening.

The installation, capable of powering roughly 15,000 homes over four hours, is part of an emergency response to projected energy shortages stemming from a huge leak at a natural gas storage facility.

The project, which officially came online Monday but began operating at the end of last year, is an important and surprising demonstration of how utilities can use enormous collections of batteries in place of conventional power plants.

It is also an indication of how rapidly Tesla is moving to transform itself from a maker of luxury electric cars into a multifaceted clean-energy

https://seekingalpha.com/article/40...h-australia-meets-competition-presents-upside

Summary
South Australia announces two pronged strategy involving 100MW battery storage and new gas facility to resolve its energy crisis.

Expression of interest for 100 MW grid-connected battery released yesterday with two weeks response time - South Australian Premier invites Tesla to tender.

At least three tenderers likely to compete with Tesla for the battery opportunity.

Battery installation will be a high profile test of renewable energy stability, not just in Australia but internationally. This is a substantial business opportunity for Tesla.

A battery proposal, perhaps with solar PV for additional power generation, will compete with the need to build new gas - big implications for gas as a bridge fuel.

There has been a lot of heat generated in the energy debate in South Australia and last week Australian billionaire and Atlassian co-founder Mike Cannon-Brookes threw a grenade into the debate by calling Elon Musk on a claim that Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) could fix a high profile stoush about South Australia's energy stability with a battery offering that TSLA would install within 100 days or provide it for free. I wrote about the emerging story four days ago.

There has been a lot of activity over the weekend and at the start of this week, with general support for the idea of getting out of the fossil fuel fixation to look at modern solutions to the issue.

Nothing happening with grid scale batteries, eh?

The installation, capable of powering roughly 15,000 homes over four hours,






Lmfao 15,000 homes with four hours?

 

[Old Rocks]

In the next decade, we will see grid scale battery storage make wind and solar 24/7.

Only thing "grid scale storage" would do is BANKRUPT the utilities, make Wind and Solar MORE EXPENSIVE than anything and generate the LARGEST hazardous waste stream in the history of mankind.

And that's the truth.. That's why I funnied your post...

Really?



Oncor, which runs Texas’ largest power line network, is willing to bet battery technology is ready for wide-scale deployment across the grid.

In a move that stands to radically shift the dynamics of the industry, Oncor is set to announce Monday that it is prepared to invest more than $2 billion to store electricity in thousands of batteries across North and West Texas beginning in 2018.

Utility-scale batteries have been a holy grail within the energy sector for years. With enough storage space, surplus electricity can be generated at night, when plants usually sit idle, to be used the next day, when demand is highest. Power outages would become less frequent. Wind and solar power, susceptible to weather conditions, could be built on a larger scale. The only problem has been that the price of batteries has been too high to make economic sense. But if they’re purchased on a large enough scale, that won’t be the case for long, said Oncor CEO Bob Shapard.

“Everyone assumed the price point was five to six years out. We’re getting indications from everyone we’ve talked to they can get us to that price by 2018,” he said in an interview Wednesday.

The Dallas-based transmission company is proposing the installation of 5,000 megawatts of batteries not just in its service area but across Texas’ entire grid. That is the equivalent of four nuclear power plants on a grid with a capacity of about 81,000 megawatts.

Ranging from refrigerator- to dumpster-size, the batteries would be installed behind shopping centers and in neighborhoods. Statewide, Oncor estimates a total price tag of $5.2 billion. A study commissioned by Oncor with the Brattle Group, a Massachusetts consulting firm that provides power market analysis for state regulators, says the project would not raise bills. Revenue from rental of storage space on the batteries, along with a decrease in power prices and transmission costs, should actually decrease the average Texas residential power bill 34 cents to $179.66 a month, the report said.

At the time, Oncor stated that the point at which the batteries would be practical, would be $350 per kwhr. Tesla states in large sales, they can do $250/kwhr, and $125/kwhr in a decade.

Good, let them do it without taxpayer dollars.

I see. You are concerned about the Australian, Kiwi, and English taxpayers? More so than you are concerned about all the jobs that Tesla is creating in this nation with his cars and battery factory. Of course you are, that is the 'Conservative' attitude. Nothing done by someone with creative imagination and entreperneur talent can be good.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Embarrass myself? They are being installed worldwide as we speak.

How much pot do you smoke at night? Who is paying you to constantly post battery's are the future?


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[Old Rocks]

Tesla Gives the California Power Grid a Battery Boost

Just off a freeway in Southern California, 396 refrigerator-size stacks of Tesla batteries, encased in white metal, have been hastily erected with a new mission: to suck up electricity from the grid during the day and feed it back into the system as needed, especially in the evening.

The installation, capable of powering roughly 15,000 homes over four hours, is part of an emergency response to projected energy shortages stemming from a huge leak at a natural gas storage facility.

The project, which officially came online Monday but began operating at the end of last year, is an important and surprising demonstration of how utilities can use enormous collections of batteries in place of conventional power plants.

It is also an indication of how rapidly Tesla is moving to transform itself from a maker of luxury electric cars into a multifaceted clean-energy

https://seekingalpha.com/article/40...h-australia-meets-competition-presents-upside

Summary
South Australia announces two pronged strategy involving 100MW battery storage and new gas facility to resolve its energy crisis.

Expression of interest for 100 MW grid-connected battery released yesterday with two weeks response time - South Australian Premier invites Tesla to tender.

At least three tenderers likely to compete with Tesla for the battery opportunity.

Battery installation will be a high profile test of renewable energy stability, not just in Australia but internationally. This is a substantial business opportunity for Tesla.

A battery proposal, perhaps with solar PV for additional power generation, will compete with the need to build new gas - big implications for gas as a bridge fuel.

There has been a lot of heat generated in the energy debate in South Australia and last week Australian billionaire and Atlassian co-founder Mike Cannon-Brookes threw a grenade into the debate by calling Elon Musk on a claim that Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) could fix a high profile stoush about South Australia's energy stability with a battery offering that TSLA would install within 100 days or provide it for free. I wrote about the emerging story four days ago.

There has been a lot of activity over the weekend and at the start of this week, with general support for the idea of getting out of the fossil fuel fixation to look at modern solutions to the issue.

Nothing happening with grid scale batteries, eh?

The installation, capable of powering roughly 15,000 homes over four hours,






Lmfao 15,000 homes with four hours?


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Stupid ass, at present it is an emergency backup. Later, it will be part of a much larger system to stabalize the system.

 

[Old Rocks]

Embarrass myself? They are being installed worldwide as we speak.

How much pot do you smoke at night? Who is paying you to constantly post battery's are the future?


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I have never used pot, and no one pays me for anything other than my knowledge as a millwright. Anyone with brains can see the future of grid scale batteries.

 

[Wyatt earp]

In the next decade, we will see grid scale battery storage make wind and solar 24/7.

Only thing "grid scale storage" would do is BANKRUPT the utilities, make Wind and Solar MORE EXPENSIVE than anything and generate the LARGEST hazardous waste stream in the history of mankind.

And that's the truth.. That's why I funnied your post...

Really?



Oncor, which runs Texas’ largest power line network, is willing to bet battery technology is ready for wide-scale deployment across the grid.

In a move that stands to radically shift the dynamics of the industry, Oncor is set to announce Monday that it is prepared to invest more than $2 billion to store electricity in thousands of batteries across North and West Texas beginning in 2018.

Utility-scale batteries have been a holy grail within the energy sector for years. With enough storage space, surplus electricity can be generated at night, when plants usually sit idle, to be used the next day, when demand is highest. Power outages would become less frequent. Wind and solar power, susceptible to weather conditions, could be built on a larger scale. The only problem has been that the price of batteries has been too high to make economic sense. But if they’re purchased on a large enough scale, that won’t be the case for long, said Oncor CEO Bob Shapard.

“Everyone assumed the price point was five to six years out. We’re getting indications from everyone we’ve talked to they can get us to that price by 2018,” he said in an interview Wednesday.

The Dallas-based transmission company is proposing the installation of 5,000 megawatts of batteries not just in its service area but across Texas’ entire grid. That is the equivalent of four nuclear power plants on a grid with a capacity of about 81,000 megawatts.

Ranging from refrigerator- to dumpster-size, the batteries would be installed behind shopping centers and in neighborhoods. Statewide, Oncor estimates a total price tag of $5.2 billion. A study commissioned by Oncor with the Brattle Group, a Massachusetts consulting firm that provides power market analysis for state regulators, says the project would not raise bills. Revenue from rental of storage space on the batteries, along with a decrease in power prices and transmission costs, should actually decrease the average Texas residential power bill 34 cents to $179.66 a month, the report said.

At the time, Oncor stated that the point at which the batteries would be practical, would be $350 per kwhr. Tesla states in large sales, they can do $250/kwhr, and $125/kwhr in a decade.

Good, let them do it without taxpayer dollars.

I see. You are concerned about the Australian, Kiwi, and English taxpayers? More so than you are concerned about all the jobs that Tesla is creating in this nation with his cars and battery factory. Of course you are, that is the 'Conservative' attitude. Nothing done by someone with creative imagination and entreperneur talent can be good.

What kind of lie is that I personally know kiwis is in the carbon credits game..and they can't afford it.

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[Wyatt earp]

Embarrass myself? They are being installed worldwide as we speak.

How much pot do you smoke at night? Who is paying you to constantly post battery's are the future?


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I have never used pot, and no one pays me for anything other than my knowledge as a millwright. Anyone with brains can see the future of grid scale batteries.

Grid scale battery's ? No way in hell...


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[westwall]

In the next decade, we will see grid scale battery storage make wind and solar 24/7.

Only thing "grid scale storage" would do is BANKRUPT the utilities, make Wind and Solar MORE EXPENSIVE than anything and generate the LARGEST hazardous waste stream in the history of mankind.

And that's the truth.. That's why I funnied your post...

Really?



Oncor, which runs Texas’ largest power line network, is willing to bet battery technology is ready for wide-scale deployment across the grid.

In a move that stands to radically shift the dynamics of the industry, Oncor is set to announce Monday that it is prepared to invest more than $2 billion to store electricity in thousands of batteries across North and West Texas beginning in 2018.

Utility-scale batteries have been a holy grail within the energy sector for years. With enough storage space, surplus electricity can be generated at night, when plants usually sit idle, to be used the next day, when demand is highest. Power outages would become less frequent. Wind and solar power, susceptible to weather conditions, could be built on a larger scale. The only problem has been that the price of batteries has been too high to make economic sense. But if they’re purchased on a large enough scale, that won’t be the case for long, said Oncor CEO Bob Shapard.

“Everyone assumed the price point was five to six years out. We’re getting indications from everyone we’ve talked to they can get us to that price by 2018,” he said in an interview Wednesday.

The Dallas-based transmission company is proposing the installation of 5,000 megawatts of batteries not just in its service area but across Texas’ entire grid. That is the equivalent of four nuclear power plants on a grid with a capacity of about 81,000 megawatts.

Ranging from refrigerator- to dumpster-size, the batteries would be installed behind shopping centers and in neighborhoods. Statewide, Oncor estimates a total price tag of $5.2 billion. A study commissioned by Oncor with the Brattle Group, a Massachusetts consulting firm that provides power market analysis for state regulators, says the project would not raise bills. Revenue from rental of storage space on the batteries, along with a decrease in power prices and transmission costs, should actually decrease the average Texas residential power bill 34 cents to $179.66 a month, the report said.

At the time, Oncor stated that the point at which the batteries would be practical, would be $350 per kwhr. Tesla states in large sales, they can do $250/kwhr, and $125/kwhr in a decade.

Good, let them do it without taxpayer dollars.

I see. You are concerned about the Australian, Kiwi, and English taxpayers? More so than you are concerned about all the jobs that Tesla is creating in this nation with his cars and battery factory. Of course you are, that is the 'Conservative' attitude. Nothing done by someone with creative imagination and entreperneur talent can be good.

YES! I am concerned about the well being of ALL the taxpayers of the world. If solar and wind are so great they can stand on their own. THEY CAN'T! That's the whole point. You could remove every so called "subsidy you claim the oil companies receive, and they would still be up and running and generating energy. Take the taxpayer dollars away from your so called renewables and they close their doors.

That is the ultimate judge on "green" energy creation. Without massive taxpayer support they are done.

 

[Old Rocks]

Once again, ol' Westwall is lying. The great liberal state of Texas is proof of that.

 

[skookerasbil]

Really who cares? You are more likely to see a Batmobile on the highway than a Tesla S.

 

[Old Rocks]

There have now been over 540,000 electric vehicles sold in the U.S.

Electric vehicle sales in the U.S. are higher than they’ve ever been, according to a report published by ChargePoint, which operates more than 31,000 electric vehicle chargers in the U.S.


Between November 2015 and November 2016, more than 130,000 plug-in hybrid or battery-powered EVs were sold, bringing the total number of EVs on the road in the U.S. and Canada to close to 535,000. In the U.S. alone, 542,000 EVs have been sold to date.

Put in context, that’s more than seven times the 73,000 EVs that were sold in the U.S. in 2012. That’s not just concentrated in places like California. While California is still in the lead as the state with the most EVs, Utah is the fastest growing and saw a 60 percent increase in EV registrations.

The Tesla Model S topped the chart with the most vehicles sold between January and November 2016. In the second spot was Chevy Volt with more than 21,000 vehicles, followed by the Tesla Model X and then the Ford Fusion. At the bottom of the list was the Toyota Prius Plug-in — only 52 were sold.

I see Tesla's on a daily basis. Quite a lot of them here in Portland. A couple of people at work own Leaf's. And there are quite a number of the e-Smart cars running around, also. Even a couple of Think's. The EV's are going to eat the ICE's lunch in less than a decade.

 

[westwall]

There have now been over 540,000 electric vehicles sold in the U.S.

Electric vehicle sales in the U.S. are higher than they’ve ever been, according to a report published by ChargePoint, which operates more than 31,000 electric vehicle chargers in the U.S.


Between November 2015 and November 2016, more than 130,000 plug-in hybrid or battery-powered EVs were sold, bringing the total number of EVs on the road in the U.S. and Canada to close to 535,000. In the U.S. alone, 542,000 EVs have been sold to date.

Put in context, that’s more than seven times the 73,000 EVs that were sold in the U.S. in 2012. That’s not just concentrated in places like California. While California is still in the lead as the state with the most EVs, Utah is the fastest growing and saw a 60 percent increase in EV registrations.

The Tesla Model S topped the chart with the most vehicles sold between January and November 2016. In the second spot was Chevy Volt with more than 21,000 vehicles, followed by the Tesla Model X and then the Ford Fusion. At the bottom of the list was the Toyota Prius Plug-in — only 52 were sold.

I see Tesla's on a daily basis. Quite a lot of them here in Portland. A couple of people at work own Leaf's. And there are quite a number of the e-Smart cars running around, also. Even a couple of Think's. The EV's are going to eat the ICE's lunch in less than a decade.

I wonder what percent are still running.

 

[Old Rocks]

There have now been over 540,000 electric vehicles sold in the U.S.

Electric vehicle sales in the U.S. are higher than they’ve ever been, according to a report published by ChargePoint, which operates more than 31,000 electric vehicle chargers in the U.S.


Between November 2015 and November 2016, more than 130,000 plug-in hybrid or battery-powered EVs were sold, bringing the total number of EVs on the road in the U.S. and Canada to close to 535,000. In the U.S. alone, 542,000 EVs have been sold to date.

Put in context, that’s more than seven times the 73,000 EVs that were sold in the U.S. in 2012. That’s not just concentrated in places like California. While California is still in the lead as the state with the most EVs, Utah is the fastest growing and saw a 60 percent increase in EV registrations.

The Tesla Model S topped the chart with the most vehicles sold between January and November 2016. In the second spot was Chevy Volt with more than 21,000 vehicles, followed by the Tesla Model X and then the Ford Fusion. At the bottom of the list was the Toyota Prius Plug-in — only 52 were sold.

I see Tesla's on a daily basis. Quite a lot of them here in Portland. A couple of people at work own Leaf's. And there are quite a number of the e-Smart cars running around, also. Even a couple of Think's. The EV's are going to eat the ICE's lunch in less than a decade.

I wonder what percent are still running.

Consumer Reports On Electric Vehicle Reliability: "In General, Electric Cars Have Been Stellar"

In its annual reliability survey of 1.1 million vehicles, Consumer Reports stated that it expects “reliability of new models to be 60% above average” for the Nissan LEAF and that the Tesla Model S fared well, despite problems with squeaks, rattles, body hardware and door handles that don’t always pop out. The Model S scored well in the areas that matter most, including drive system, electrical system, suspension, brakes, paint and so on.

Design News notes:

“To be sure, feedback on pure electrics is still sparse, with the Ford Focus EV, Chevy Spark EV, Honda Fit EV, Mitsubishi i-MiEV, and Toyota RAV4 EV failing to appear in the survey because of insufficient data. Early indications, however, point to pure EVs having a reliability advantage over hybrids and conventional vehicles, at least for now.”

And Fisher concludes:

“The electric vehicle looks good from a maintenance and reliability standpoint. There’s just less to worry about.”

60% above average reliability is a pretty strong statement. And, as the EV's become more common, the reliability will increase.

 

[Wyatt earp]

There have now been over 540,000 electric vehicles sold in the U.S.

Electric vehicle sales in the U.S. are higher than they’ve ever been, according to a report published by ChargePoint, which operates more than 31,000 electric vehicle chargers in the U.S.


Between November 2015 and November 2016, more than 130,000 plug-in hybrid or battery-powered EVs were sold, bringing the total number of EVs on the road in the U.S. and Canada to close to 535,000. In the U.S. alone, 542,000 EVs have been sold to date.

Put in context, that’s more than seven times the 73,000 EVs that were sold in the U.S. in 2012. That’s not just concentrated in places like California. While California is still in the lead as the state with the most EVs, Utah is the fastest growing and saw a 60 percent increase in EV registrations.

The Tesla Model S topped the chart with the most vehicles sold between January and November 2016. In the second spot was Chevy Volt with more than 21,000 vehicles, followed by the Tesla Model X and then the Ford Fusion. At the bottom of the list was the Toyota Prius Plug-in — only 52 were sold.

I see Tesla's on a daily basis. Quite a lot of them here in Portland. A couple of people at work own Leaf's. And there are quite a number of the e-Smart cars running around, also. Even a couple of Think's. The EV's are going to eat the ICE's lunch in less than a decade.

I wonder what percent are still running.

I wonder why this guy is already selling his 2017 telsa for $50,000 dollars under what he paid for it?


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[Wyatt earp]

There have now been over 540,000 electric vehicles sold in the U.S.

Electric vehicle sales in the U.S. are higher than they’ve ever been, according to a report published by ChargePoint, which operates more than 31,000 electric vehicle chargers in the U.S.


Between November 2015 and November 2016, more than 130,000 plug-in hybrid or battery-powered EVs were sold, bringing the total number of EVs on the road in the U.S. and Canada to close to 535,000. In the U.S. alone, 542,000 EVs have been sold to date.

Put in context, that’s more than seven times the 73,000 EVs that were sold in the U.S. in 2012. That’s not just concentrated in places like California. While California is still in the lead as the state with the most EVs, Utah is the fastest growing and saw a 60 percent increase in EV registrations.

The Tesla Model S topped the chart with the most vehicles sold between January and November 2016. In the second spot was Chevy Volt with more than 21,000 vehicles, followed by the Tesla Model X and then the Ford Fusion. At the bottom of the list was the Toyota Prius Plug-in — only 52 were sold.

I see Tesla's on a daily basis. Quite a lot of them here in Portland. A couple of people at work own Leaf's. And there are quite a number of the e-Smart cars running around, also. Even a couple of Think's. The EV's are going to eat the ICE's lunch in less than a decade.

I wonder what percent are still running.

Consumer Reports On Electric Vehicle Reliability: "In General, Electric Cars Have Been Stellar"

In its annual reliability survey of 1.1 million vehicles, Consumer Reports stated that it expects “reliability of new models to be 60% above average” for the Nissan LEAF and that the Tesla Model S fared well, despite problems with squeaks, rattles, body hardware and door handles that don’t always pop out. The Model S scored well in the areas that matter most, including drive system, electrical system, suspension, brakes, paint and so on.

Design News notes:

“To be sure, feedback on pure electrics is still sparse, with the Ford Focus EV, Chevy Spark EV, Honda Fit EV, Mitsubishi i-MiEV, and Toyota RAV4 EV failing to appear in the survey because of insufficient data. Early indications, however, point to pure EVs having a reliability advantage over hybrids and conventional vehicles, at least for now.”

And Fisher concludes:

“The electric vehicle looks good from a maintenance and reliability standpoint. There’s just less to worry about.”

60% above average reliability is a pretty strong statement. And, as the EV's become more common, the reliability will increase.

But they won't their hey day was in the 1800s.


You will never convince the real working men of this country to buy a clown car
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