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She can not teach a class. She has no license.If she can't take a coup!le of protesters how can she teach a class?
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She can not teach a class. She has no license.If she can't take a coup!le of protesters how can she teach a class?
There are no facts or valid statements here. Your feelings about liberals is not the question at hand. You should also be respectful if your going to preach about disrespect.Could public education be any worse than it is already. Nowadays, children are generally just as ignorant and disrespectful of their free ride as their freeloading, poor me liberal parents.
Time for change and I wish DeVos the best of luck considering that liberals are willing to protest and riot (already happening) because they didn't get their way .. .. . Yup, totally poor examples of adult behavior, they could obviously care less about their children's education or emotional stability being self centered dipshits themselves. ...
This is a very very rich woman who took it as her particular obligation in life to do what she could to get very poor children a better education than they were getting.
She is not in it for the money; she has all she and subsequent generations could ever need....except that she has given a huge amount of it to further that obligation she has felt called upon to assume.
The problem is that part of the solution she has identified....giving the kids (and their parents) a CHOICE in where they send their kids to school....will hit the Bolsheviks Teachers Unions in the pocketbook....and funny thing is....when it comes to their pocketbook, Bolsheviks are very much like the greediest capitalist in New York and New England.
(By the way, where do you think the Robber Barons came from....whose Greed called forth Unions in the first place?)
Which Greed applies strictly to Private Employee Unions. Their existence is justified.
But the Public Employee Unions, especially the Teachers Unions...simply Suck Off the public tit...through a fraudulent co-conspiracy with the Democratic Party....a conspiracy which ought to have been busted up a long time ago...and maybe this lady will finally do it.
Naturally, the Democrats are raising Hell. They are paid a fortune to raise Hell by the Public Employee Unions, who are funded by us Taxpayers.
What's going to drive this country into some sort of disaster...its tough now to tell how bad...but its going to be a combination of an almost illiterate public, educated by lazy Bolsheviks, and the Liars in the Media who have abandoned all pretense of impartiality and openly joined the Bolshevik side.
Ugly times at hand.
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Your basing your argument on one article? You have not hurt my feelings at all. This is not a debate on our "feelings" or "emotions." As was stated in the beginning of the thread, I would like facts, statistics, or a scientific stance to back up her appointment. No one has been able to offer me such, yet.There are no facts or valid statements here. Your feelings about liberals is not the question at hand. You should also be respectful if your going to preach about disrespect.Could public education be any worse than it is already. Nowadays, children are generally just as ignorant and disrespectful of their free ride as their freeloading, poor me liberal parents.
Time for change and I wish DeVos the best of luck considering that liberals are willing to protest and riot (already happening) because they didn't get their way .. .. . Yup, totally poor examples of adult behavior, they could obviously care less about their children's education or emotional stability being self centered dipshits themselves. ...
I just read an article about liberal educators teaching sex education to first graders and parents having no voice what-so-ever in the policy... Sure, you probably think that's a great idea and would fall into line but to me a change is required and De Vos represents that change. The point is .. liberal educators are failing the public schools and years of perfect choices has produced an absolute nightmare for our children and young adults.
btw. this is an opinion thread, no profanity used and I'm sorry I hurt your feelings....
.... and welcome to the USMB, you'll have to catch me in a better mood next time...
There are no facts or valid statements here. Your feelings about liberals is not the question at hand. You should also be respectful if your going to preach about disrespect.Could public education be any worse than it is already. Nowadays, children are generally just as ignorant and disrespectful of their free ride as their freeloading, poor me liberal parents.
Time for change and I wish DeVos the best of luck considering that liberals are willing to protest and riot (already happening) because they didn't get their way .. .. . Yup, totally poor examples of adult behavior, they could obviously care less about their children's education or emotional stability being self centered dipshits themselves. ...
I just read an article about liberal educators teaching sex education to first graders and parents having no voice what-so-ever in the policy... Sure, you probably think that's a great idea and would fall into line but to me a change is required and De Vos represents that change. The point is .. liberal educators are failing the public schools and years of perfect choices has produced an absolute nightmare for our children and young adults.
btw. this is an opinion thread, no profanity used and I'm sorry I hurt your feelings....
.... and welcome to the USMB, you'll have to catch me in a better mood next time...
As a concerned citizen I am shocked that "educators" would hire or condone the conduct of professional rioters who were paid to assault the Secretary of Education and prevent her from going to work on her first day and it seems that not a single "educator" has apologized or for it or condemned the outrageous conduct. It's obvious that the union based education system has lost it's way and that alleged "educators" seem to think that assault is a legitimate political tool. It's no secret that "educators" have fostered an environment of hatred and every conservative speaker has been a victim of assault on college campus and even some institutes of basic education. The system of assault and violence is obviously encouraged or ignored by ignorant people who refer to themselves as "educators". Drain the freaking swamp.
This is a very very rich woman who took it as her particular obligation in life to do what she could to get very poor children a better education than they were getting.
She is not in it for the money; she has all she and subsequent generations could ever need....except that she has given a huge amount of it to further that obligation she has felt called upon to assume.
The problem is that part of the solution she has identified....giving the kids (and their parents) a CHOICE in where they send their kids to school....will hit the Bolsheviks Teachers Unions in the pocketbook....and funny thing is....when it comes to their pocketbook, Bolsheviks are very much like the greediest capitalist in New York and New England.
(By the way, where do you think the Robber Barons came from....whose Greed called forth Unions in the first place?)
Which Greed applies strictly to Private Employee Unions. Their existence is justified.
But the Public Employee Unions, especially the Teachers Unions...simply Suck Off the public tit...through a fraudulent co-conspiracy with the Democratic Party....a conspiracy which ought to have been busted up a long time ago...and maybe this lady will finally do it.
Naturally, the Democrats are raising Hell. They are paid a fortune to raise Hell by the Public Employee Unions, who are funded by us Taxpayers.
What's going to drive this country into some sort of disaster...its tough now to tell how bad...but its going to be a combination of an almost illiterate public, educated by lazy Bolsheviks, and the Liars in the Media who have abandoned all pretense of impartiality and openly joined the Bolshevik side.
Ugly times at hand.
______
Your anti-union barrage of bullshit is off topic.
This is a very very rich woman who took it as her particular obligation in life to do what she could to get very poor children a better education than they were getting.
She is not in it for the money; she has all she and subsequent generations could ever need....except that she has given a huge amount of it to further that obligation she has felt called upon to assume.
The problem is that part of the solution she has identified....giving the kids (and their parents) a CHOICE in where they send their kids to school....will hit the Bolsheviks Teachers Unions in the pocketbook....and funny thing is....when it comes to their pocketbook, Bolsheviks are very much like the greediest capitalist in New York and New England.
(By the way, where do you think the Robber Barons came from....whose Greed called forth Unions in the first place?)
Which Greed applies strictly to Private Employee Unions. Their existence is justified.
But the Public Employee Unions, especially the Teachers Unions...simply Suck Off the public tit...through a fraudulent co-conspiracy with the Democratic Party....a conspiracy which ought to have been busted up a long time ago...and maybe this lady will finally do it.
Naturally, the Democrats are raising Hell. They are paid a fortune to raise Hell by the Public Employee Unions, who are funded by us Taxpayers.
What's going to drive this country into some sort of disaster...its tough now to tell how bad...but its going to be a combination of an almost illiterate public, educated by lazy Bolsheviks, and the Liars in the Media who have abandoned all pretense of impartiality and openly joined the Bolshevik side.
Ugly times at hand.
______
Your anti-union barrage of bullshit is off topic.
He defined liberals and their teacher unions as Bolsheviks, that's complimentary and a quite obvious understatement, sweet really.
There are no facts or valid statements here. Your feelings about liberals is not the question at hand. You should also be respectful if your going to preach about disrespect.Could public education be any worse than it is already. Nowadays, children are generally just as ignorant and disrespectful of their free ride as their freeloading, poor me liberal parents.
Time for change and I wish DeVos the best of luck considering that liberals are willing to protest and riot (already happening) because they didn't get their way .. .. . Yup, totally poor examples of adult behavior, they could obviously care less about their children's education or emotional stability being self centered dipshits themselves. ...
I just read an article about liberal educators teaching sex education to first graders and parents having no voice what-so-ever in the policy... Sure, you probably think that's a great idea and would fall into line but to me a change is required and De Vos represents that change. The point is .. liberal educators are failing the public schools and years of perfect choices has produced an absolute nightmare for our children and young adults.
btw. this is an opinion thread, no profanity used and I'm sorry I hurt your feelings....
.... and welcome to the USMB, you'll have to catch me in a better mood next time...
Where was this happening and why do you think the federal government was involved in any way?
Most of the BS you hear about in public education occurs in the northeastern US (NY, MA, or PA), Chicago, or the People's Republic of California. The rest of the country does not do this kind of ridiculousness.
Yes just for an example, Secretary Paige helped develop and then implement the "No Child Left Behind" act under the Bush administration.Has a Sec of Education ever had any power to change things?
This is a very very rich woman who took it as her particular obligation in life to do what she could to get very poor children a better education than they were getting.
She is not in it for the money; she has all she and subsequent generations could ever need....except that she has given a huge amount of it to further that obligation she has felt called upon to assume.
The problem is that part of the solution she has identified....giving the kids (and their parents) a CHOICE in where they send their kids to school....will hit the Bolsheviks Teachers Unions in the pocketbook....and funny thing is....when it comes to their pocketbook, Bolsheviks are very much like the greediest capitalist in New York and New England.
(By the way, where do you think the Robber Barons came from....whose Greed called forth Unions in the first place?)
Which Greed applies strictly to Private Employee Unions. Their existence is justified.
But the Public Employee Unions, especially the Teachers Unions...simply Suck Off the public tit...through a fraudulent co-conspiracy with the Democratic Party....a conspiracy which ought to have been busted up a long time ago...and maybe this lady will finally do it.
Naturally, the Democrats are raising Hell. They are paid a fortune to raise Hell by the Public Employee Unions, who are funded by us Taxpayers.
What's going to drive this country into some sort of disaster...its tough now to tell how bad...but its going to be a combination of an almost illiterate public, educated by lazy Bolsheviks, and the Liars in the Media who have abandoned all pretense of impartiality and openly joined the Bolshevik side.
Ugly times at hand.
______
Your anti-union barrage of bullshit is off topic.
He defined liberals and their teacher unions as Bolsheviks, that's complimentary and a quite obvious understatement, sweet really.
So when I was a member of a teacher's union I was a liberal and a Bolshevik?
He obviously doesn't know anything.
If you want my personal opinion... I feel tenure should be re-evaluated. Teachers are always getting more education, however at the same time not staying up to date with the technology children are becoming experts in. The social and educational implications to wide spread internet access is immense. It should not be taken for granted. Students should always come first. They are and always will be our future.This is a very very rich woman who took it as her particular obligation in life to do what she could to get very poor children a better education than they were getting.
She is not in it for the money; she has all she and subsequent generations could ever need....except that she has given a huge amount of it to further that obligation she has felt called upon to assume.
The problem is that part of the solution she has identified....giving the kids (and their parents) a CHOICE in where they send their kids to school....will hit the Bolsheviks Teachers Unions in the pocketbook....and funny thing is....when it comes to their pocketbook, Bolsheviks are very much like the greediest capitalist in New York and New England.
(By the way, where do you think the Robber Barons came from....whose Greed called forth Unions in the first place?)
Which Greed applies strictly to Private Employee Unions. Their existence is justified.
But the Public Employee Unions, especially the Teachers Unions...simply Suck Off the public tit...through a fraudulent co-conspiracy with the Democratic Party....a conspiracy which ought to have been busted up a long time ago...and maybe this lady will finally do it.
Naturally, the Democrats are raising Hell. They are paid a fortune to raise Hell by the Public Employee Unions, who are funded by us Taxpayers.
What's going to drive this country into some sort of disaster...its tough now to tell how bad...but its going to be a combination of an almost illiterate public, educated by lazy Bolsheviks, and the Liars in the Media who have abandoned all pretense of impartiality and openly joined the Bolshevik side.
Ugly times at hand.
______
Your anti-union barrage of bullshit is off topic.
He defined liberals and their teacher unions as Bolsheviks, that's complimentary and a quite obvious understatement, sweet really.
So when I was a member of a teacher's union I was a liberal and a Bolshevik?
He obviously doesn't know anything.
Eh, my 4 children that were educated and raised in California and actually had some pretty great teachers, politics unknown .. as it should be in my opinion. Just wondering, have you ran across teachers that were protected by tenure but basically sucked as educators and how did you feel about that in regards to the students?
So you will just believe what your plantation believes....As an educator I have yet to hear any valid argument (based on facts or science) that DeVos is a good choice. Any teachers out there pro- DeVos? Please tell me why.
Does she have an education degree? How many years has she spent teaching? How much coaching has she done?
If you want my personal opinion... I feel tenure should be re-evaluated. Teachers are always getting more education, however at the same time not staying up to date with the technology children are becoming experts in. The social and educational implications to wide spread internet access is immense. It should not be taken for granted. Students should always come first. They are and always will be our future.This is a very very rich woman who took it as her particular obligation in life to do what she could to get very poor children a better education than they were getting.
She is not in it for the money; she has all she and subsequent generations could ever need....except that she has given a huge amount of it to further that obligation she has felt called upon to assume.
The problem is that part of the solution she has identified....giving the kids (and their parents) a CHOICE in where they send their kids to school....will hit the Bolsheviks Teachers Unions in the pocketbook....and funny thing is....when it comes to their pocketbook, Bolsheviks are very much like the greediest capitalist in New York and New England.
(By the way, where do you think the Robber Barons came from....whose Greed called forth Unions in the first place?)
Which Greed applies strictly to Private Employee Unions. Their existence is justified.
But the Public Employee Unions, especially the Teachers Unions...simply Suck Off the public tit...through a fraudulent co-conspiracy with the Democratic Party....a conspiracy which ought to have been busted up a long time ago...and maybe this lady will finally do it.
Naturally, the Democrats are raising Hell. They are paid a fortune to raise Hell by the Public Employee Unions, who are funded by us Taxpayers.
What's going to drive this country into some sort of disaster...its tough now to tell how bad...but its going to be a combination of an almost illiterate public, educated by lazy Bolsheviks, and the Liars in the Media who have abandoned all pretense of impartiality and openly joined the Bolshevik side.
Ugly times at hand.
______
Your anti-union barrage of bullshit is off topic.
He defined liberals and their teacher unions as Bolsheviks, that's complimentary and a quite obvious understatement, sweet really.
So when I was a member of a teacher's union I was a liberal and a Bolshevik?
He obviously doesn't know anything.
Eh, my 4 children that were educated and raised in California and actually had some pretty great teachers, politics unknown .. as it should be in my opinion. Just wondering, have you ran across teachers that were protected by tenure but basically sucked as educators and how did you feel about that in regards to the students?
Public school teachers, with a few exceptions, are only interested in what best serves their interests and DeVos is interested in what best serves the interests of the children, so naturally, "educators" are opposed to her.As an educator I have yet to hear any valid argument (based on facts or science) that DeVos is a good choice. Any teachers out there pro- DeVos? Please tell me why.