“Education”??? Insidious And Evil!

Take a look at the graph I provided, and this:



Recent statistics from The College Board and the American College Testing Program (ACT) indicate that home schoolers are exceeding the national average test scores on both the SAT and the ACT college entrance exams. In 1999, the 2219 students who identified themselves as home schooled students on the SAT test, scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. A perfect SAT score is 1600. Also in 1999, 3616 home school students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.7, compared to the national average of 21, a perfect score being 36.
http://hslda.org/docs/nche/000002/00000229.asp



Standardized test results for 16,000 home educated children, grades K-12, were analyzed in 1994 by researcher Dr. Brian Ray. He found the nationwide grand mean in reading for homeschoolers was at the 79th percentile; for language and math, the 73rd percentile. This ranking means home-educated students performed better than approximately 77% of the sample population on whom the test was normed. Nearly 80% of homeschooled children achieved individual scores above the national average and 54.7% of the 16,000 homeschoolers achieved individual scores in the top quarter of the population, more than double the number of conventional school students who score in the top quarter. 1

A Harvard University (MA) admissions officer said most of their home-educated students "have done very well. They usually are very motivated in what they do." Results of the SAT and SAT II, an essay, an interview, and a letter of recommendation are the main requirements for home-educated applicants. "[Transcripts are] irrelevant because a transcript is basically a comparison to other students in the school."
http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000000/00000017.asp




For your edification:
The Results

Overall the study showed significant advances in homeschool academic achievement as well as revealing that issues such as student gender, parents’ education level, and family income had little bearing on the results of homeschooled students.


National Average Percentile Scores
SubtestHomeschoolPublic School
Reading8950
Language8450
Math8450
Science8650
Social Studies8450
Corea8850
Compositeb8650
a. Core is a combination of Reading, Language, and Math.
b. Composite is a combination of all subtests that the student took on the test.
There was little difference between the results of homeschooled boys and girls on core scores.

Boys—87th percentile
Girls—88th percentile

Household income had little impact on the results of homeschooled students.

$34,999 or less—85th percentile
$35,000–$49,999—86th percentile
$50,000–$69,999—86th percentile
$70,000 or more—89th percentile

The education level of the parents made a noticeable difference, but the homeschooled children of non-college educated parents still scored in the 83rd percentile, which is well above the national average.

Neither parent has a college degree—83rd percentile
One parent has a college degree—86th percentile
Both parents have a college degree—90th percentile

Whether either parent was a certified teacher did not matter.

Certified (i.e., either parent ever certified)—87th percentile
Not certified (i.e., neither parent ever certified)—88th percentile

Parental spending on home education made little difference.

Spent $600 or more on the student—89th percentile
Spent under $600 on the student—86th percentile

The extent of government regulation on homeschoolers did not affect the results.

Low state regulation—87th percentile
Medium state regulation—88th percentile
High state regulation—87th percentile




Look what you've become....a spokesperson for failure.
Self-selection bias. Homeschooling are not required to take the ACT where many public school students are required to take the test even if they have no intention of attending college. Home school students only take the test if they intend to go to college. Your data is garbage.
 
1% your original words, 99% copy/paste. Typical lazy nothingburger.
So you cannot confront a simple question at the heart of the OP to which you voluntarily subscribed.

Try: why does the system you defend turn out so many America haters?

You're simply a windbag.
 
You fail to understand the concept of averaging scores. Our best students rank with the best in the world. You also neglect that we rest all students where other countries do not.
I proved my point and eviscerated you claim, with facts.

You can't do the same......you lose.
 
Self-selection bias. Homeschooling are not required to take the ACT where many public school students are required to take the test even if they have no intention of attending college. Home school students only take the test if they intend to go to college. Your data is garbage.
A lie.

In NYC homeschoolers are required to take every system-wide exam government school students take.
 
I proved my point and eviscerated you claim, with facts.

You can't do the same......you lose.
Your facts are in error. Ever look at an actual statistical analysis of your data? The fact that we educate every student and others do not invalidates any data you are trying to examine. That is the exact same reason comparing homeschooled students ACT scores to public school or private school students are bogus.
 
No, I am frustrated with your holier-than-thou attitude.
The irony could be cut with a chainsaw...
So you cannot confront a simple question at the heart of the OP to which you voluntarily subscribed.

Try: why does the system you defend turn out so many America haters?

You're simply a windbag.

He's predictable as the sunrise. Unk will NEVER answer a question. He will dodge, deflect, distract, filibabble, lie, make personal attacks, make inane no-content posts (like post 110 here), quote himself, and insult...but he won't answer a simple question.
 
Your facts are in error. Ever look at an actual statistical analysis of your data? The fact that we educate every student and others do not invalidates any data you are trying to examine. That is the exact same reason comparing homeschooled students ACT scores to public school or private school students are bogus.
Good-bye
 
Here at post # 114 it's time for a medial review.


a. There is a battle between journalism and "education" as to which is the most corrurpt.


b. Both use the same tactic to stain and besmirch historic and current America: the carefully pick which parts of a story to tell and which to leave out.


c. One example I gave is the awarding the pattern of our const4utional and govermental structure to Indians, a group some 3 thousand years in advancement behind the European Founders.


d. The other is the use of slavery, a small part of the advances America provided, to cudgel the nation. Slavery is taught as though slavery is still as important as it was before America took the exceptional and costly steps to expunge it. Perhaps you have heard of the imaginary "white supremacy."
 
Never contradict the midshipman, he KNOWS ALL! If you have the TEMERITY to point out that he is not perfect, he will immediately start screaming at you.
I appreciate that,

I believe we are on the same page.
 
Try: why does the system you defend turn out so many America haters?
because public ed has been politicized by leftist moon bats , leftist agendas .....leftist administrations, and teachers unions that have no problem going right along with it PC

they've literally handed the unions their a** in my state over this........and no, you will not find a single educator speaking out against them....lest they be ousted.....

~S~
 
15th post
Never contradict the midshipman, he KNOWS ALL! If you have the TEMERITY to point out that he is not perfect, he will immediately start screaming at you.
This ^^^ is all you EVER post, but you whine and cry about "adding to" threads all the time. Hypocrite.
 
Here at post # 114 it's time for a medial review.


a. There is a battle between journalism and "education" as to which is the most corrurpt.


b. Both use the same tactic to stain and besmirch historic and current America: the carefully pick which parts of a story to tell and which to leave out.


c. One example I gave is the awarding the pattern of our const4utional and govermental structure to Indians, a group some 3 thousand years in advancement behind the European Founders.


d. The other is the use of slavery, a small part of the advances America provided, to cudgel the nation. Slavery is taught as though slavery is still as important as it was before America took the exceptional and costly steps to expunge it. Perhaps you have heard of the imaginary "white supremacy."
More ignorant lies.
 

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