“Education”??? Insidious And Evil!

well you may blabber all you like Admiral......the NEA is done.......the teachers unions are next.......school choice after that.....

and you'll have to find someone or something else to blame while you're in the 'old teachers home' patting yourself on the back

you can run, but you can't hide Admiral......
~S~
How is the NEA done? Many teachers don't support it anyway. Ever hear of the AFT? Are you planning an outlawing a union in violation of numerous existing federal laws? Can you show us on this doll where the union touched you?

I am fine with school choice as long as it remains in the public schools. I also don't mind paying for private non-religious schools as long as they have to maintain the same standards and accreditation as public schools, but we know that can never happen at their current tuition level. Everyone already has the right to choose private or home schooling.

I just don't want to allow tax dollars to promote private religious education. It has no business in schools. Keep it in the church. I say that as a member of a Methodist church for nearly 20 years.
 
I just don't want to allow tax dollars to promote private religious education. It has no business in schools.
do tell..... :rolleyes: ......and the majority of us don't like the political agendas in public schools Admiral.......it has no biz in public schools either

~S~
 
So OP never answered the question. OP is just a foreign troll. Why are these allowed on the board?
 
Perhaps you'd be more comfortable discussing the 24 Hour All Cartoon Network.

This is not a thread where you can add anything.

The only thing he ever adds to this BBS is the BS.

You still didn't answer the question you loathsome scum. Why is it so hard? That many air raids in Russia from the Ukrainians? I shit on you you Putin sucking cum bucket.

Are you on drugs?
 
Will you ever stop being a fragility afflicted victim? As a white male I can assure you I have never been the victim of some super secret plot to keep me down. That is why I have been extremely successful. The whining of unsuccessful white men is a chorus of losers.
Why do you hate America, the greatest nation ever to grace the planet?


Do you believe in the sanctity of human life?
 
We are not talking about your erectile dysfunction.

There is no education failure across the board, unless you are talking about your own.

I have no idea what you meant by that.
American governmental schooling is certainly a failure in many ways,

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Pew Research Center
https://www.pewresearch.org › ... › Education › K-12




Feb 15, 2017 — U.S. students continue to rank near the middle, and behind many other advanced industrial nations, in international math, science and ...





I understand your "sensitivity" to criticism.....based on the wonderful job government schooling, and by extension, you, are doing.




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http:// pisa - pisa - oecd www.oecd.xn--org pisa -fz6i/


PISA - PISA - OECD

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Agreed. That is why there is none in most schools. Get of out blue cities and you will see real education.
Take a look at the graph I provided, and this:



Recent statistics from The College Board and the American College Testing Program (ACT) indicate that home schoolers are exceeding the national average test scores on both the SAT and the ACT college entrance exams. In 1999, the 2219 students who identified themselves as home schooled students on the SAT test, scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. A perfect SAT score is 1600. Also in 1999, 3616 home school students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.7, compared to the national average of 21, a perfect score being 36.
http://hslda.org/docs/nche/000002/00000229.asp



Standardized test results for 16,000 home educated children, grades K-12, were analyzed in 1994 by researcher Dr. Brian Ray. He found the nationwide grand mean in reading for homeschoolers was at the 79th percentile; for language and math, the 73rd percentile. This ranking means home-educated students performed better than approximately 77% of the sample population on whom the test was normed. Nearly 80% of homeschooled children achieved individual scores above the national average and 54.7% of the 16,000 homeschoolers achieved individual scores in the top quarter of the population, more than double the number of conventional school students who score in the top quarter. 1

A Harvard University (MA) admissions officer said most of their home-educated students "have done very well. They usually are very motivated in what they do." Results of the SAT and SAT II, an essay, an interview, and a letter of recommendation are the main requirements for home-educated applicants. "[Transcripts are] irrelevant because a transcript is basically a comparison to other students in the school."
http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000000/00000017.asp




For your edification:
The Results

Overall the study showed significant advances in homeschool academic achievement as well as revealing that issues such as student gender, parents’ education level, and family income had little bearing on the results of homeschooled students.

National Average Percentile Scores
SubtestHomeschoolPublic School
Reading8950
Language8450
Math8450
Science8650
Social Studies8450
Corea8850
Compositeb8650
a. Core is a combination of Reading, Language, and Math.
b. Composite is a combination of all subtests that the student took on the test.
There was little difference between the results of homeschooled boys and girls on core scores.

Boys—87th percentile
Girls—88th percentile

Household income had little impact on the results of homeschooled students.

$34,999 or less—85th percentile
$35,000–$49,999—86th percentile
$50,000–$69,999—86th percentile
$70,000 or more—89th percentile

The education level of the parents made a noticeable difference, but the homeschooled children of non-college educated parents still scored in the 83rd percentile, which is well above the national average.

Neither parent has a college degree—83rd percentile
One parent has a college degree—86th percentile
Both parents have a college degree—90th percentile

Whether either parent was a certified teacher did not matter.

Certified (i.e., either parent ever certified)—87th percentile
Not certified (i.e., neither parent ever certified)—88th percentile

Parental spending on home education made little difference.

Spent $600 or more on the student—89th percentile
Spent under $600 on the student—86th percentile

The extent of government regulation on homeschoolers did not affect the results.

Low state regulation—87th percentile
Medium state regulation—88th percentile
High state regulation—87th percentile




Look what you've become....a spokesperson for failure.
 
And you? What exactly do you add?
This from one who added nothing to the discussion.

The winner in the category of unintentional humor.


Try: why does the system you defend turn out so many America haters?
 
Take a look at the graph I provided, and this:



Recent statistics from The College Board and the American College Testing Program (ACT) indicate that home schoolers are exceeding the national average test scores on both the SAT and the ACT college entrance exams. In 1999, the 2219 students who identified themselves as home schooled students on the SAT test, scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. A perfect SAT score is 1600. Also in 1999, 3616 home school students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.7, compared to the national average of 21, a perfect score being 36.
http://hslda.org/docs/nche/000002/00000229.asp



Standardized test results for 16,000 home educated children, grades K-12, were analyzed in 1994 by researcher Dr. Brian Ray. He found the nationwide grand mean in reading for homeschoolers was at the 79th percentile; for language and math, the 73rd percentile. This ranking means home-educated students performed better than approximately 77% of the sample population on whom the test was normed. Nearly 80% of homeschooled children achieved individual scores above the national average and 54.7% of the 16,000 homeschoolers achieved individual scores in the top quarter of the population, more than double the number of conventional school students who score in the top quarter. 1

A Harvard University (MA) admissions officer said most of their home-educated students "have done very well. They usually are very motivated in what they do." Results of the SAT and SAT II, an essay, an interview, and a letter of recommendation are the main requirements for home-educated applicants. "[Transcripts are] irrelevant because a transcript is basically a comparison to other students in the school."
http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000000/00000017.asp




For your edification:
The Results

Overall the study showed significant advances in homeschool academic achievement as well as revealing that issues such as student gender, parents’ education level, and family income had little bearing on the results of homeschooled students.


National Average Percentile Scores
SubtestHomeschoolPublic School
Reading8950
Language8450
Math8450
Science8650
Social Studies8450
Corea8850
Compositeb8650
a. Core is a combination of Reading, Language, and Math.
b. Composite is a combination of all subtests that the student took on the test.
There was little difference between the results of homeschooled boys and girls on core scores.

Boys—87th percentile
Girls—88th percentile

Household income had little impact on the results of homeschooled students.

$34,999 or less—85th percentile
$35,000–$49,999—86th percentile
$50,000–$69,999—86th percentile
$70,000 or more—89th percentile

The education level of the parents made a noticeable difference, but the homeschooled children of non-college educated parents still scored in the 83rd percentile, which is well above the national average.

Neither parent has a college degree—83rd percentile
One parent has a college degree—86th percentile
Both parents have a college degree—90th percentile

Whether either parent was a certified teacher did not matter.

Certified (i.e., either parent ever certified)—87th percentile
Not certified (i.e., neither parent ever certified)—88th percentile

Parental spending on home education made little difference.

Spent $600 or more on the student—89th percentile
Spent under $600 on the student—86th percentile

The extent of government regulation on homeschoolers did not affect the results.

Low state regulation—87th percentile
Medium state regulation—88th percentile
High state regulation—87th percentile




Look what you've become....a spokesperson for failure.
1% your original words, 99% copy/paste. Typical lazy nothingburger.
 
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American governmental schooling is certainly a failure in many ways,

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Pew Research Center
https://www.pewresearch.org › ... › Education › K-12




Feb 15, 2017 — U.S. students continue to rank near the middle, and behind many other advanced industrial nations, in international math, science and ...





I understand your "sensitivity" to criticism.....based on the wonderful job government schooling, and by extension, you, are doing.




1666187916097.webp


https://imgix.mic.com/mic/20eb874267a80698de84a0a850b84e20fdb19c1c1795a88e14aed8b15a09a0ef.jpg?w=646&fit=max&auto=format,compress
http:// pisa - pisa - oecd www.oecd.xn--org pisa -fz6i/


PISA - PISA - OECD

www.oecd.org › pisa

PISA is the OECD's Programme for International Student Assessment. PISA measures 15-year-olds' ability to use their reading, mathematics and science ...






PISA Test - PISA
You fail to understand the concept of averaging scores. Our best students rank with the best in the world. You also neglect that we rest all students where other countries do not.
 
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