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I have never heard of Spain or Iraq, etc being considered to be historically Jewish.I do not believe that, because Jews lived anywhere in the world for a long period of time (Jews in Mesopotamia for 2500 years for instance) that anyone in the world is ever going to be considering Iraq, etc as "historically Jewish" regardless of the fact that Jews were living in that part of the ME for as long as they did, which is longer than any Muslim conquest (Arab or otherwise ) might have been.
As I put it, the Americas are not "Historically European" regardless of which European country invaded, conquered, colonized, displaced or ethnically cleansed any and all of those continents for the past 500 years.
As far as I see it, it is exactly the same with the Jewish homeland.
Yes, the Jewish people more readily accept Arabs, Christians or Muslims, living amongst them in Israel in peace or giving up land as they already have, than Muslims (and even Christians) ever have, or will in the future.
The word historical, does have a precise meaning to me.
America may have been "historically" colonized by the British. But if the French had taken over, it would no more make it their historical homeland, than it has for the British, or what eventually became....Americans.
You make a fair and reasonable point. One could argue that there are many places in the world which are "historically Jewish". One might argue that in a thousand years France will be "historically Arab Muslim".
But what does one DO with that?
That so many parts of the world do have Jewish history for centuries or thousands of years Is different from them being historically Jewish. They were not founded by Jews, and no Jewish nation was ever created there for people to remember them as being historically Jewish.
Kaybhar, in Saudi Arabia could e considered still as historically Jewish for how long they were there and the fact that it has been kept empty since there. Another is aJewish kingdom which existed in Arabia until the 11th century until the Muslims conquered it.




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