E. Jean Carroll is $5M richer

[rightwinger]

and you call that justice? Then why weren't you calling for Tara reade to be vindicated?

Accordomg.to you, any woman can accused a man, have.absolutley no proof, and she will win.

The fact that he said women let him grab them isn't evidence that he grabbed her or touched her in any way. The only way that should have been decided is if she had an eye witness, a security camera recording, a rape test with dna, even a police report with an investigation.

But using "he said this statement so that means he raped me 30 years ago" is not evidence.

A criminal charge requires beyond a reasonable doubt. Civil lawsuit requires a preponderance of evidence.
For defamation, Trumps defense claimed Trump never met her and she was not his type.

Evidence the jury considered

Trump bragging he likes to grab women by the pussy
Other women testifying Trump had done the same to them
Carroll testifying what happened and friends testifying she had told them after it happened

The Jury believed Carroll and there was ample evidence of defamation by Trump

 

[rightwinger]

Other Presidents have been accused by women.
Only Trump was liable for defamation

Difference is Trump can’t keep his mouth shut

 

[0311]

So if you win your case you have to STFU and take the bitch slandering you? Fuck off. Trump needs to sue her for slander and based on your stupid shit he should win.

There was no "Slander". There was no criminal trial. It was a defamation suit. And remember, he starts a legal action against Ms. Carroll there will subpoena his records to prove there was slander and that will not work for him, He not for his cooperation with the courts.

 

[0311]

A criminal charge requires beyond a reasonable doubt. Civil lawsuit requires a preponderance of evidence.
For defamation, Trumps defense claimed Trump never met her and she was not his type.

Evidence the jury considered

Trump bragging he likes to grab women by the pussy
Other women testifying Trump had done the same to them
Carroll testifying what happened and friends testifying she had told them after it happened

The Jury believed Carroll and there was ample evidence of defamation by Trump

Its an established pattern of behavior. Trump treats Women as sex objects. They are there to fulfil his sexual desires. Trump's only defense was that "She was not my type". Which is joke, if she living and breathing then she is his type.

 

[WEATHER53]

He was found guilty in trial... They heard the evidence and found him guilty...

He has now lost on appeal...

That is how the legal system works...

They have Trump on tape a number of times stating that he should be allowed to sexually assault women because he is famous...

You weren't a part of the jury, you a product of the media you were fed. They know you are gullible and will believe what you are told..

There are zero tapes where Trump is heard stating that

 

[WEATHER53]

A criminal charge requires beyond a reasonable doubt. Civil lawsuit requires a preponderance of evidence.
For defamation, Trumps defense claimed Trump never met her and she was not his type.

Evidence the jury considered

Trump bragging he likes to grab women by the pussy
Other women testifying Trump had done the same to them
Carroll testifying what happened and friends testifying she had told them after it happened

The Jury believed Carroll and there was ample evidence of defamation by Trump

He never said he personally grabs
He did say some women let the rich and famous do that

 

[Mashmont]

Trump loses appeal of E. Jean Carroll $5 million defamation verdict​

NEW YORK, Dec 30 (Reuters) - A federal appeals court on Monday upheld a $5 million verdict that E. Jean Carroll won against Donald Trump when a jury found the U.S. president-elect liable for sexually abusing and later defaming the former magazine columnist.
The decision was issued by a three-judge panel of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan.
The May 2023 verdict stemmed from an incident around 1996 in a Bergdorf Goodman department store dressing room in Manhattan, where Carroll said Trump raped her, and an October 2022 Truth Social post where Trump denied Carroll's claim as a hoax.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-loses-appeal-e-jean-carroll-5-million-defamation-verdict-2024-12-30/

There's no doubt trump's court, if given the chance, will rule in his favor on appeal.

Yeah. Going from $88 million to five is 'getting richer'. Plus after all the appeals are exhausted, the old hag golddigger will probably be dead. "Evil never profiteth a man in the end".

 

[rightwinger]

He never said he personally grabs
He did say some women let the rich and famous do that

You can try that….the jury didn’t buy it
Especially with sworn testimony from women saying that he did grab them without consent

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah. Going from $88 million to five is 'getting richer'. Plus after all the appeals are exhausted, the old hag golddigger will probably be dead. "Evil never profiteth a man in the end".

Sure is….getting much richer
All because Trump can’t keep his mouth shut

Yea……Trump will run appeal after appeal
But time eventually runs off

Ask Rudy Giuliani who is selling off his possessions

 

[rightwinger]

Its an established pattern of behavior. Trump treats Women as sex objects. They are there to fulfil his sexual desires. Trump's only defense was that "She was not my type". Which is joke, if she living and breathing then she is his type.

Trump is so predictable

First it is…..I do not know that person
Then, with women it is……she is ugly, not my type

 

[Lastamender]

Not witch hunts. He broke the law, his crimes were investigated, evidence was presented to grand juries, they voted to indict, he was indicted, and was afforded every opportunity to defend himself. That is what the US system of justice working looks like.

Your hate and stupidity make your posts unreadable.

 

[Clipper]

Yet, those sucking Carroll’s dick vilify Tara Reade. The woman Joe Biden raped.

Why is that?

"Dear Leader Donald has to shell out $5 million for sexually assaulting a woman"!

 

[Clipper]

Even when he loses there, he still won’t pay

Him & the piece of scum Guiliani should hold hands.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Two juries heard the same two stories

E Jean Carroll said Trump molested her in a dressing room
Trump denied he knew her

Guess who they believed ?

Sure, I guess the moral of the story here is, you don't need to be right, you just need to be convincing.

 

[ThisIsMe]

It was a defamation case

Dumb fuk Trump couldn’t keep his mouth shut

Why should he? Just because she convinced some jury it's possible he could have done it doesn't mean he did it. Defamation isn't asserting your innocence. You don't lose your freedom of speech because some jury decided it's possible he could have abused her. At some point, if she can prove it happened, then we will be looking at something different.

It's ok, surely this case will be overturned by scotus. Proponderence of evidence cases should have some sort of restrictions on them. They should not be able to be used in conjunction with massive payouts. Clear evidence should be required for those.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Trumpy should have done his raping in Texas if he needs a Trumpling jury to escape justice.

Ahh, so you admit he was convicted because the jury was democrat leaning...thanks!

 

[ThisIsMe]

"Dear Leader Donald has to shell out $5 million for sexually assaulting a woman"!

Nah, he has to shell out 5M because a woman put on a good story (from TV no less) that a jury believed. No evidence of sexual assault was ever shown.

Hopefully he will run this up the chain, get it dismissed, and then, he should have an investigation started into the whole thing, and see how far up the ladder this goes. Sue her personally for 20 million and...10 years in prison. See how that works. Unless, of course, she can produce some evidence.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Listen shit for brains, it NOT a criminal trial. It was a DEFAMATION SUIT. He defamed her and he lost. Guilt need be NOT established in defamation suit. He has a established pattern of behavior against women. He was found liable for her rape, NOT criminally charged. He defamed her two times, do you fucking understand that. He cannot keep his fucking big fuck mouth fucking shut.

How could he defame her? She never actually proved he did anything lol. She merely got a jury to buy her story....which we kinda figure...because NY..and...because democrat, how they were able to come to the conclusion that he assaulted HER based on a tape, and some testimony from other women who never actually proved he touched them either, and she came with zero evidence, yet, because he said something on tape, 30 years ago, that somehow correlates to him assaulting her. Plus, the case was past it's statute of limitations, until NY mysteriously passed a law, at the perfect time, to allow her to come forward with the case. Now THATS convenient lol..

 

[ThisIsMe]

You are flatly wrong about that. Some Americans are repulsed by the idea that after being accused of various forms of sexual assault 26 times, admitting to sexual assault on tape, and being found liable for sexual assault as well as financially liable for defamation, trump is not regarded as unfit to hold elected office as any other politician would.

1) accused but never proven.

2) who did he admit to sexually assaulting on tape.

3) only held liable for defamation because ny courts are crooked apparently

Ever notice that most accusations coming out now are of a sexual nature? Seems like it used to he about being a commumist...then it was about money fraud...now it's sexual claims. Any time someone comes up ..they roll out the sex assault victims....I guess that's what gets people all up in arms so that's what they are using now.

 

[ThisIsMe]

And Trumps memory was that he had never met her and that she wasn’t his type

Both disproven in court

And? Because he didn't remember meeting her, that means he raped her? Hell, even if he outright lied about meeting her..that still doesn't mean he raped her...