Appeals Court Upholds Carroll’s $83 Million Judgment Against Trump.

[Donald H]

She doesn't stand a chance against fascism's power over the entire justice system.

Could any of history's fascist dictators ever lose in a court of law?

Trump isn't quite ready yet to declare himself innocent. He can make it look much cleaner and legitimate by taking the case to a court that he trusts won't fail him.

 

[Marener]

Trump has never been convicted of rape

You wouldn’t say that if he had violated one of your loved ones like that.

 

[BackAgain]

She doesn't stand a chance against fascism's power over the entire justice system.

Could any of history's fascist dictators ever lose in a court of law?

Trump isn't quite ready yet to declare himself innocent. He can make it look much cleaner and legitimate by taking the case to a court that he trusts won't fail him.

Your constant ignorant use of (or deliberately false use of) the words “fascist” and “dictator” completely destroy whatever “point” you hope to make.

 

[candycorn]

The judges rejected President Trump’s argument that the Supreme Court’s decision extending presidential immunity should shield him from liability for defaming the writer E. Jean Carroll.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/08/nyregion/trump-e-jean-carroll-defamation.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20250908&instance_id=162129&nl=breaking-news&regi_id=82070660&segment_id=205502&user_id=0be3b67ae7031af55ebcbfadb31786d5

A federal appeals court on Monday upheld a $83.3 million jury award against President Trump for defaming the writer E. Jean Carroll in 2019, after she accused him of a decades-old rape in a Manhattan department store — an attack for which he was separately found liable of sexual abuse.

The court also rejected Mr. Trump’s argument that the Supreme Court’s decision last year affording presidential immunity for official acts barred a finding of liability in Ms. Carroll’s lawsuit.

The unsigned ruling by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in Manhattan was unanimous.

It really doesn't if Ms. Carroll get the money. What is important is that Trump defamed her and she beat him in court. He also remains an adjudicated rapist. Not to mention a convicted FELON!

A rare win for the good guys.

 

[Dante]

Trump has never been convicted of rape. Now let's talk about you assholes in the UK and allowing illegals to rape children.

We both know it's true so STFU and sit the fck down, Stumps

Getting off on a technicality in a state law is not a great thing to brag about


Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

“This was a rape claim, this was a rape case all along, and the jury rejected that — made other findings,” his lawyer, Joe Tacopina, said outside the courthouse.

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

...

“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.
He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0.pdf

 

[Donald H]

Nobody is above the law.

That has never been true for a president and you know that. Thugh there's something to be said for stating it here on this board.

Impeachment and conviction has never worked and obviously never can.

It's as bad as Trump naming his own jury being made up of his immediate family.

That doesn't even depend on the fascist regime to his rescue. It's been true for all presidents.

The fanding fouthers in fact laid no impediments in the way of an ambitious president that was/is intent on ending democracy.

IF America survives fascism running its course, its Constitution will have to be revisited.

 

[Dante]

Trump has never been convicted of rape. Now let's talk about you assholes in the UK and allowing illegals to rape children.

We both know it's true so STFU and sit the fck down, Stumps

You apologists for a rape are pathetic!

 

[Dante]

New York doesn’t DEFINE “sexual abuse” in the same way it DEFINES “rape” in the NY State Penal Law, the dainty.



It’s always a tell when you choose to fly off topic.

A real judge vs the usmb failed Liability supposed-lawyer:

“This was a rape claim, this was a rape case all along, and the jury rejected that — made other findings,” his lawyer, Joe Tacopina, said outside the courthouse.

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

...

“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.
He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0.pdf

 

[BackAgain]

Trump loses again due to his own stupidity.

Judge told him to shut up
His lawyers told him to shut up
His family told him to shut up.


But he kept attacking Carrol.
Why he lost Bigly

Nope. He lost because this case was brought in the deep blue cesspool of NYC.
Actual facts and logic and justice and fairness were irrelevant in that proceeding.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The judges rejected President Trump’s argument ....

He won't be impeached.
He won't be removed.
Your only recourse is violence.

 

[BackAgain]

View attachment 1159594


WINNING!

That particular argument was just one of several. I’m not surprised the circuit court dismissed that argument.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Nope. He lost because this case was brought in the deep blue cesspool of NYC.
Actual facts and logic and justice and fairness were irrelevant in that proceeding.

Juries are members of the public and their selection is approved by the prosecution and by the defense.

Do you think the defendant should have a direct say in who is on the jury?

 

[Dante]

That particular argument was just one of several. I’m not surprised the circuit court dismissed that argument.

right

 

[BackAgain]

A rare win for the good guys.

Nonsense. One argument of many was rejected. As I agree it should have been.

But the balance of that execrably partisan case should have resulted in a reversal.

So there was no win for the good guys.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Juries are members of the public and their selection is approved by the prosecution and by the defense.

Do you think the defendant should have a say in who is on the jury?

That's why change of venue is an option

 

[Donald H]

Your constant ignorant use of (or deliberately false use of) the words “fascist” and “dictator” completely destroy whatever “point” you hope to make.

My point was just to put in words, that which was near unanimous on the question. That is:

Trump will win in some future court.

Why do the words from a foreigner have so much more impact? You don't seem to be objecting to the truth out of the mouths of your fellow Americans.

 

[BackAgain]

right

It is right. Therefore, mindless shitlibs, like the dainty won’t grasp it or choose not to acknowledge it.

 

[Dante]

It is right. Therefore, mindless shitlibs, like the dainty won’t grasp it or choose not to acknowledge it.

The ruling went against the argument that: "presidential immunity should shield him from liability for defaming the writer E. Jean Carroll." That is a big deal and you should celebrate it as it goes against any narrative that the SCOTUS ruling made Trump a King.

D'Oh!

 

[Dante]

My point was just to put in words, that which was near unanimous on the question. That is:

Trump will win in some future court.

Why do the words from a foreigner have so much more impact? You don't seem to be objecting to the truth out of the mouths of your fellow Americans.

USMB needs to fix the system that anticipates words and enters them. I know you want to write: "Trump will win in some future alternate reality, where truth isn't truth'".
Rudy Giuliani:

Giuliani: 'Truth isn't truth'

On Meet the Press, President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani says that he doesn't want to rush the president to testify and end up in a perjury "trap."

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Donald H]

It is right. Therefore, mindless shitlibs, like the dainty won’t grasp it or choose not to acknowledge it.

Let's have a look at how friends of the Triump regime state it, if that's more comforting to you?

He won't be impeached.
He won't be removed.
Your only recourse is violence.

Every ass loves his own bray too much to choose its words carefully.