'Duck Dynasty' Under Fire Following Star's Incendiary Anti-Gay Remarks

[strollingbones]

'Duck Dynasty's' Phil Robertson: Five more debate-worthy quotes - latimes.com

who will win the ***** slap fest?

 

[Gracie]

I thought the show, when it first came on, as just a joke on playing on laughing at rednecks. I watched it a few times, and found myself busting up. I laughed at them. But the more I watched, the more I began to laugh WITH them. I wanted what they had..family, honor for their country, love for their families. Yes, they hunt. That turned me off. But eventually I saw they didn't hunt for sport. They hunted to feed their family. It was not "fun" to torture an animal or collect it's head or fur only. They EAT it. It is not wasted.
I think I am like many people who first saw it on tv. It was for a laugh. Turned out to be something much more, though. It turned into people wanting what used to be and is no longer. A longing for family to just be themselves, loving each other, supporting each other, laughing with each other and just living the life they have.

The rest of the shows on A&E suck. Where are the arts? All we get is hardcore pawn stars who show the worst of blacks and obnoxious thieves running their shop, greedy idiots running one in Vegas, two morons digging thru peoples barns to find "treasures" and now the newest one about some cowgirl skanks, storage wars that are nothing but scripted bullshit. I ask again..WHERE ARE THE ARTS? There are none. Except on KCET.

Bah. Phooey on A&E. Everything sucks on tv lately so I mainly watch reruns of Will and Grace, Frasier, NCIS, Law and Order and movies if any decent ones are on. Oh, and food channel because I love watching Cut Throat Kitchen. Nothing beats watching some guy try to fry an egg on a fry pan upside down. lol. The rest? *spit*

 

[Esmeralda]

How do you know what is 'normal'? Ten percent of the population is homosexual. Animals engage in same sex sexual activity. Prove, other than what your religion says, that homosexual behavior is not 'normal.' Empirically, with solid, indisputable, scientific evidence.

Seriously 60 pages is sad enough. But this is ridiculous. I hate to be crude but it seems to be the only way to call the trolls out. The purpose of sex is for procreation. That is it's function. That is normal. A guy dumping a load in another guy's ass is not. Like it or not that's reality. If you think it is then fine. But have the spine to say hey it ain't right but they have a right to do it.

I'm not a troll, you ******* jackass, but you are an idiot. You narrow minded, ignorant fools think there is only one way to see the world and that is your way. You've never opened or used your mind long enough to think about anything; never opened up and read a book long enough to learn anything outside your narrow little world.

Animals in the animal kingdom engage in same sex sexual activity. Ten percent of the human population is and always has been homosexual. How do you define normal? It is a subjective term. You and your ilk do not have the finite definition of normal, fool. You don't even realize that what you consider 'normal' or 'natural' is only what you consider it to be. You don't even realize that there are no absolutes, that the rest of the world does not have to adhere to your religious or personal perspective on what is right and what is wrong. You are an idiot for not even being able to understand that there are other perspectives of reality than your own.

 

[mskafka]

What I would like to see, is Phil's VERBATIM statements; especially regarding African Americans:

]" The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash."

Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson Gives Drew Magary a Tour

I will never disagree that racism existed then, and exists now; I've seen it, and even at 5'3 was usually one of the first to stand up to a bully. What I lack in height, I have in resonance. Gays were TORMENTED more than any group, in my high school.

He probably either said or meant we (his family) were "white trash." That's not the most eloquent way of expressing a belief, but it seems to be his way of saying: I was/am no better than anyone else.

He recently said in a....sermon of sorts: "We all came from the same dude, and I don't know what color he was."

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyL1xha_1aU]Duck Commander Phil Robertson Talks About Why This Country Needs More Jesus - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JoeB131]

I guess I'm having a hard time understand the Right Wing Outrage.

A&E has made a business decision that they won't make money airing a dirty old bigot....

Aren't you guys normally all about big corporations making money?

Who among the people screeching about Robertson actually watches the show?

Hint: Not many.

Would watching the show make his comments less offensive?

A lot of the people who screamed that Martin Bashir be fired didn't watch his show either. The same with the people who insisted that Alec Baldwin be fired from his show.

You can't insist those guys get fired and then say that this guy should get a pass.

 

[TemplarKormac]

 

[TemplarKormac]

I guess I'm having a hard time understand the Right Wing Outrage.

A&E has made a business decision that they won't make money airing a dirty old bigot....

Aren't you guys normally all about big corporations making money?

Who among the people screeching about Robertson actually watches the show?

Hint: Not many.

Would watching the show make his comments less offensive?

A lot of the people who screamed that Martin Bashir be fired didn't watch his show either. The same with the people who insisted that Alec Baldwin be fired from his show.

You can't insist those guys get fired and then say that this guy should get a pass.

It's only offensive to you, simply because he's a Christian, Joe. You want the right to say whatever you want to say about him, his faith and his show, but you begrudge him the right to speak out about his beliefs. Hypocrite!

 

[JoeB131]

Who among the people screeching about Robertson actually watches the show?

Hint: Not many.

Would watching the show make his comments less offensive?

A lot of the people who screamed that Martin Bashir be fired didn't watch his show either. The same with the people who insisted that Alec Baldwin be fired from his show.

You can't insist those guys get fired and then say that this guy should get a pass.

It's only offensive to you, simply because he's a Christian, Joe. You want the right to say whatever you want to say about him, his faith and his show, but you begrudge him the right to speak out about his beliefs. Hypocrite!

He's perfectly free to express his beliefs about his superstitions and bigotry.

And A&E is perfectly free to fire him.

But, no, comparing gays to terrorists and theives is REALLY offensive to most decent people.

 

[gallantwarrior]

How do you know what is 'normal'? Ten percent of the population is homosexual. Animals engage in same sex sexual activity. Prove, other than what your religion says, that homosexual behavior is not 'normal.' Empirically, with solid, indisputable, scientific evidence.

Seriously 60 pages is sad enough. But this is ridiculous. I hate to be crude but it seems to be the only way to call the trolls out. The purpose of sex is for procreation. That is it's function. That is normal. A guy dumping a load in another guy's ass is not. Like it or not that's reality. If you think it is then fine. But have the spine to say hey it ain't right but they have a right to do it.

I'm not a troll, you ******* jackass, but you are an idiot. You narrow minded, ignorant fools think there is only one way to see the world and that is your way. You've never opened or used your mind long enough to think about anything; never opened up and read a book long enough to learn anything outside your narrow little world.

Animals in the animal kingdom engage in same sex sexual activity. Ten percent of the human population is and always has been homosexual. How do you define normal? It is a subjective term. You and your ilk do not have the finite definition of normal, fool. You don't even realize that what you consider 'normal' or 'natural' is only what you consider it to be. You don't even realize that there are no absolutes, that the rest of the world does not have to adhere to your religious or personal perspective on what is right and what is wrong. You are an idiot for not even being able to understand that there are other perspectives of reality than your own.

I have raised animals of many kinds my entire life, what you ignorant deviants like to claim is "same sex" activities is nothing of the sort. Both male and female animals exhibit dominance displays that the uninformed, or the agenda-driven misinterpret or misrepresent as sexual activity. Generally, once dominance is established in a group of animals, mounting behavior decreases significantly. I have never witnessed any normal male animal sexually penetrating anything other than a willing female. Your weak-minded and misguided attempts to anthropomophize normal dominance displays and label them as equal to human sexual behavior is nothing more than a pile of PC bullshit.
OK, I'm ready for you to trot out the same old tired "studies" of animals held in abnormal conditions, animals that do exhibit abnormal sexual activity most likely resulting from deprivation of normalcy.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I guess I'm having a hard time understand the Right Wing Outrage.

A&E has made a business decision that they won't make money airing a dirty old bigot....

Aren't you guys normally all about big corporations making money?

Who among the people screeching about Robertson actually watches the show?

Hint: Not many.

Would watching the show make his comments less offensive?

A lot of the people who screamed that Martin Bashir be fired didn't watch his show either. The same with the people who insisted that Alec Baldwin be fired from his show.

You can't insist those guys get fired and then say that this guy should get a pass.

So you're offended? Time to grow up and get over yourself. If you find this offensive, change the channel. It's not like there aren't plenty of trashy shows out there that would be less offensive to you.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Wow, that pretty much says what I've said all along. The homosexual lobby (LGBT or whatever hell else they want to be called), demand what they would deny someone they don't agree with.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Would watching the show make his comments less offensive?

A lot of the people who screamed that Martin Bashir be fired didn't watch his show either. The same with the people who insisted that Alec Baldwin be fired from his show.

You can't insist those guys get fired and then say that this guy should get a pass.

It's only offensive to you, simply because he's a Christian, Joe. You want the right to say whatever you want to say about him, his faith and his show, but you begrudge him the right to speak out about his beliefs. Hypocrite!

He's perfectly free to express his beliefs about his superstitions and bigotry.

And A&E is perfectly free to fire him.

But, no, comparing gays to terrorists and theives is REALLY offensive to most decent people.

Tough.

 

[mskafka]

He's perfectly free to express his beliefs about his superstitions and bigotry.

1. Yes, he is. I disagree that he's a bigot; what he is, is a churches of Christ Elder. If one asks an Elder of the c of C a spiritual question, he's going to give you a blunt, non-sugarcoated answer. I've heard worse from Elders; but not all of them are this harsh.

2. Whatever you believe-whether it be Agnosticism, Atheism, Jainism, Buddhism, etc...is none of my business. I'm just wondering; is there no way that science and a supreme being can coexist?

 

[mskafka]

"...what you ignorant deviants like to claim is "same sex" activities is nothing of the sort."

I must be sleepy. I misunderstood what you were saying. I haven't raised farm animals, so I have no idea; and probably would have avoided this subject.

 

[Esmeralda]

Seriously 60 pages is sad enough. But this is ridiculous. I hate to be crude but it seems to be the only way to call the trolls out. The purpose of sex is for procreation. That is it's function. That is normal. A guy dumping a load in another guy's ass is not. Like it or not that's reality. If you think it is then fine. But have the spine to say hey it ain't right but they have a right to do it.

I'm not a troll, you ******* jackass, but you are an idiot. You narrow minded, ignorant fools think there is only one way to see the world and that is your way. You've never opened or used your mind long enough to think about anything; never opened up and read a book long enough to learn anything outside your narrow little world.

Animals in the animal kingdom engage in same sex sexual activity. Ten percent of the human population is and always has been homosexual. How do you define normal? It is a subjective term. You and your ilk do not have the finite definition of normal, fool. You don't even realize that what you consider 'normal' or 'natural' is only what you consider it to be. You don't even realize that there are no absolutes, that the rest of the world does not have to adhere to your religious or personal perspective on what is right and what is wrong. You are an idiot for not even being able to understand that there are other perspectives of reality than your own.

I have raised animals of many kinds my entire life, what you ignorant deviants like to claim is "same sex" activities is nothing of the sort. Both male and female animals exhibit dominance displays that the uninformed, or the agenda-driven misinterpret or misrepresent as sexual activity. Generally, once dominance is established in a group of animals, mounting behavior decreases significantly. I have never witnessed any normal male animal sexually penetrating anything other than a willing female. Your weak-minded and misguided attempts to anthropomophize normal dominance displays and label them as equal to human sexual behavior is nothing more than a pile of PC bullshit.
OK, I'm ready for you to trot out the same old tired "studies" of animals held in abnormal conditions, animals that do exhibit abnormal sexual activity most likely resulting from deprivation of normalcy.

You are ignorant. Scientific, empirical evidence backs up the claim of same sex activities within the animal kingdom. As I said, you are ignorant. Google it. Scientists have studied this. It isn't me being weak minded; it is you being ignorant of science. I don't need to cite any studies: this is considered common, general information--any educated person would be knowledgeable about it. Your personal anecdotal knowledge has no value.

Even if it wasn't normal in the animal kingdom to engage in same sex activities, you still cannot assume to determine what is normal or natural for humans; these are SUBJECTIVE terms, which cannot be definitively determined. If sex is only for procreation, for example, then why are most of the people engaging in sexual activity mostly not doing it for the purpose of procreation? If sex is only for procreation, then men would not want to have anal sex with women. If sex is only or procreatiom, then all women in and past menopause would not be having sex. Simple minds embrace simple ideas: one simple idea is thinking you know what is natural and normal for the whole of humanity.

 

[JoeB131]

Who among the people screeching about Robertson actually watches the show?

Hint: Not many.

Would watching the show make his comments less offensive?

A lot of the people who screamed that Martin Bashir be fired didn't watch his show either. The same with the people who insisted that Alec Baldwin be fired from his show.

You can't insist those guys get fired and then say that this guy should get a pass.

So you're offended? Time to grow up and get over yourself. If you find this offensive, change the channel. It's not like there aren't plenty of trashy shows out there that would be less offensive to you.

Guy, I work three jobs, I don't have time to watch TV. And I probably need to cut down on the time I waste here.

But that wasn't the point I was making to Cave-man.

The point is, Robertson made comments that were offensive to most decent people, and used the bible to justify them.

A&E decided they didn't want to get involved in that shit. They were just making a fun series about rednecks who hunt ducks.

 

[JoeB131]

He's perfectly free to express his beliefs about his superstitions and bigotry.

1. Yes, he is. I disagree that he's a bigot; what he is, is a churches of Christ Elder. If one asks an Elder of the c of C a spiritual question, he's going to give you a blunt, non-sugarcoated answer. I've heard worse from Elders; but not all of them are this harsh.

2. Whatever you believe-whether it be Agnosticism, Atheism, Jainism, Buddhism, etc...is none of my business. I'm just wondering; is no way that science and a supreme being can coexist?

I am kind of agnostic on the whole issue of a "Supreme Being". I do have those moments where I think the universe is too well organized to be just random chance.

However, I would hate to think that the universe is so badly designed that the petty, nasty, cruel vindictive God of the Bible is really the Supreme Being. That would be kind of depressing, because when you get right down to it, that guy is kind of a dick and there's very little to redeem him even in his own book.

The bible has been used for centuries to justify war, genocide, slavery, misogyny, racism, witch burnings- all things that all THINKING people conclude are wrong now.

But man, the homophobes will cling to those verses on Homosexuality, because, Gosh darn, they think the ghey sex is icky. At least when dudes do it, anyway. Most of them like them some Girl on Girl porn.

 

[jon_berzerk]

I'm not a troll, you ******* jackass, but you are an idiot. You narrow minded, ignorant fools think there is only one way to see the world and that is your way. You've never opened or used your mind long enough to think about anything; never opened up and read a book long enough to learn anything outside your narrow little world.

Animals in the animal kingdom engage in same sex sexual activity. Ten percent of the human population is and always has been homosexual. How do you define normal? It is a subjective term. You and your ilk do not have the finite definition of normal, fool. You don't even realize that what you consider 'normal' or 'natural' is only what you consider it to be. You don't even realize that there are no absolutes, that the rest of the world does not have to adhere to your religious or personal perspective on what is right and what is wrong. You are an idiot for not even being able to understand that there are other perspectives of reality than your own.

I have raised animals of many kinds my entire life, what you ignorant deviants like to claim is "same sex" activities is nothing of the sort. Both male and female animals exhibit dominance displays that the uninformed, or the agenda-driven misinterpret or misrepresent as sexual activity. Generally, once dominance is established in a group of animals, mounting behavior decreases significantly. I have never witnessed any normal male animal sexually penetrating anything other than a willing female. Your weak-minded and misguided attempts to anthropomophize normal dominance displays and label them as equal to human sexual behavior is nothing more than a pile of PC bullshit.
OK, I'm ready for you to trot out the same old tired "studies" of animals held in abnormal conditions, animals that do exhibit abnormal sexual activity most likely resulting from deprivation of normalcy.

You are ignorant. Scientific, empirical evidence backs up the claim of same sex activities within the animal kingdom. As I said, you are ignorant. Google it. Scientists have studied this. It isn't me being weak minded; it is you being ignorant of science. I don't need to cite any studies: this is considered common, general information--any educated person would be knowledgeable about it. Your personal anecdotal knowledge has no value.

the only same sex activity that i have seen out of farm animal is about dominance

on the other hand i have seen a dog dry hump another male dog

a cat and a dudes leg

so following your line of thinking we should accept beastiality

because of the dogs behavior

better yet i have seen a rooster chicken hump a dead chicken


are we to accept folks having sexual relations with the dead

because of that roosters high t level

 

[mskafka]

I am kind of agnostic on the whole issue of a "Supreme Being". I do have those moments where I think the universe is too well organized to be just random chance.

That's reasonable.

Any religious text, is dangerous in the hands of the ignorant, or those with sinister motives.

Phil is just homespun, and set in his ways; he isn't trying to start WWIII.
Is there a "war on Christianity"? I don't think so. I believe this article, and the ones who parroted it, are waging a war on American Unity.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much - latimes.com

seems phil was out to ***** slap a & e

To me, if they couldn't take what they considered to be a flaw of his, they never should have hooked up with him in the first place. They should have known that it was like getting married. When you say, "I do." , you are saying "I do." to everything that comes with the person that you are getting married to.

By the way, I love what you say in your signature here.

Yeah!!!

God bless you two and Mr. Robertson always!!!

Holly