Dr Hoettl Confirms The Six Million Jews Killed in The Holocaust

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The six million figure was essentially confirmed with population statistics
Getting a lot of miles out of that. Just remember that the victor always writes the history. I don't deny that the "Holocaust" happened, however I do question the 6M figure. Especially in a period in which the European Jewish population attempted to exist as autonomous & secretive as possible as a matter of self preservation. There are not enough fires in hell to bring justice for the Holocaust.

The estimates of the numbers killed in the Operation Reinhardt camps, some 3.5-4.1 million based on railroad data, and some 2 million more over the rest of occupied Europe and the Slavic countries isn't an unreasonable estimate. 'Religious' Jews self-segregated themselves whenever they could, so that made it hard to be 'anonymous' in much of Europe, except for those Jews who rejected the Orthodox and Hasidim focus on racism and isolationism and chose to assimilate.
Jews are not a race. They accept converts from all races. There are Black Jews and Chinese Jews. I presentted 2 pieces of evidence, idiot. You can't read.

Rubbish. The Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox have 'racial purity' laws that will take up several hundred pages of text. You don't know squat about Jewish history, especially since the return of the Babylonian exiles. The original early Jewish ghettos in Europe were segregated at the requests from Jewish leaders themselves. After the defeat of the Bar Kochba revolt they went on a recruitment spree, but their own 'laws' hampered their appeal to those without the right bloodlines, so their drives weren't very successful. They lost many to not only the Roman revolts but to the Christian sects as well, for obvious reasons; they would be a huge demographic by now if it weren't for the silly racist regulations the 'real Jews' insist on, and if their racism hadn't led them into stupid idiocy like believing they could beat the Romans. They invented a new cult in the 2nd Century A.D. built around some fabricated 'Oral Torah' that supposedly was superior to the Torah of Moses. Part of that cult was that the goy are not real people, they exist only as a way God chooses to reward or punish Jews. Some of the more secular ethnic Jewish sects probably have more liberal definitions of it, but they still have restrictions. So do most other tribes and peoples, for that matter. No Swede will ever make it to the top of the government in Red China, for instance, no matter who his daddy or mommy was.
 
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The six million figure was essentially confirmed with population statistics
Getting a lot of miles out of that. Just remember that the victor always writes the history. I don't deny that the "Holocaust" happened, however I do question the 6M figure. Especially in a period in which the European Jewish population attempted to exist as autonomous & secretive as possible as a matter of self preservation. There are not enough fires in hell to bring justice for the Holocaust.

The estimates of the numbers killed in the Operation Reinhardt camps, some 3.5-4.1 million based on railroad data, and some 2 million more over the rest of occupied Europe and the Slavic countries isn't an unreasonable estimate. 'Religious' Jews self-segregated themselves whenever they could, so that made it hard to be 'anonymous' in much of Europe, except for those Jews who rejected the Orthodox and Hasidim focus on racism and isolationism and chose to assimilate.
Jews are not a race. They accept converts from all races. There are Black Jews and Chinese Jews. I presentted 2 pieces of evidence, idiot. You can't read.

Rubbish. The Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox have 'racial purity' laws that will take up several hundred pages of text. You don't know squat about Jewsih history, especially since the return of the Babylonian exiles. The original early Jewish ghettos in Europe were segegrated at the requests from Jewish leaders themselves. After the defeat of the Bar Kochba revolt they went on a recruitment spree, but their own 'laws' hampered their appeal to those without the right bloodlines, so their drives weren't very successful. They lost many to not only the Roman revolts but to the Christian sects as well, for obvious reasons; they would be a huge demographic by now if it weren't for the silly racist regulations the 'real Jews' insist on, and if their racism hadn't led them into stupid idiocy like believing they could beat the Romans.
I am Jewish myself. Jews remain a small group because we are forbidden to proselytize.
Sammy Davis was a Black Jew. Connie Chung was a Chinese Jew.
 
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The six million figure was essentially confirmed with population statistics
Getting a lot of miles out of that. Just remember that the victor always writes the history. I don't deny that the "Holocaust" happened, however I do question the 6M figure. Especially in a period in which the European Jewish population attempted to exist as autonomous & secretive as possible as a matter of self preservation. There are not enough fires in hell to bring justice for the Holocaust.


I do not know anything about the Holocaust except that Germany decided to murder millions & millions of Jewish people.

I have read that some Jewish scholars do not agree on the 6,000,000 figure but do put the figure at about 5,000,000.

Personally, I believe that our schools should teach more about the Holocaust in a dramatic way: explicit photos & films of the sheer horror of what happened. It is still unbelievable that an advanced nation like Germany could have done something like that.
 
if their racism hadn't led them into stupid idiocy like believing they could beat the Romans.

So, just to be clear, everyone who fought against the Romans were racists?

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I have read that some Jewish scholars do not agree on the 6,000,000 figure but do put the figure at about 5,000,000.

"The other day, my little niece came home from her first day of Hebrew School". She said, 'Aunt Sarah, we learned about The Holocaust, when Hitler killed 60 Million Jews'. I told her, 'No Dear, Hitler only killed SIX Million Jews'.

"60 MILLION would have been unforgivable".

-- Sarah Silverman
 
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The six million figure was essentially confirmed with population statistics
Getting a lot of miles out of that. Just remember that the victor always writes the history. I don't deny that the "Holocaust" happened, however I do question the 6M figure. Especially in a period in which the European Jewish population attempted to exist as autonomous & secretive as possible as a matter of self preservation. There are not enough fires in hell to bring justice for the Holocaust.

The estimates of the numbers killed in the Operation Reinhardt camps, some 3.5-4.1 million based on railroad data, and some 2 million more over the rest of occupied Europe and the Slavic countries isn't an unreasonable estimate. 'Religious' Jews self-segregated themselves whenever they could, so that made it hard to be 'anonymous' in much of Europe, except for those Jews who rejected the Orthodox and Hasidim focus on racism and isolationism and chose to assimilate.
Jews are not a race. They accept converts from all races. There are Black Jews and Chinese Jews. I presentted 2 pieces of evidence, idiot. You can't read.

Rubbish. The Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox have 'racial purity' laws that will take up several hundred pages of text. You don't know squat about Jewsih history, especially since the return of the Babylonian exiles. The original early Jewish ghettos in Europe were segegrated at the requests from Jewish leaders themselves. After the defeat of the Bar Kochba revolt they went on a recruitment spree, but their own 'laws' hampered their appeal to those without the right bloodlines, so their drives weren't very successful. They lost many to not only the Roman revolts but to the Christian sects as well, for obvious reasons; they would be a huge demographic by now if it weren't for the silly racist regulations the 'real Jews' insist on, and if their racism hadn't led them into stupid idiocy like believing they could beat the Romans.
I am Jewish myself. Jews remain a small group because we are forbidden to proselytize.
Sammy Davis was a Black Jew. Connie Chung was a Chinese Jew.

So what? Too bad Jews did proselytize at various times, and that isn't any secret. In fact, one of the first recorded snivels about Da Evul Xians oppressing them in Spain comes from around 400 a.d., when the Visigoth king forbade them from forcibly converting their slaves.

My grandparents on my mother's side were descended from Moroccan Jews. Got any other irrelevant news you need to share? Try reading the Jewish encylopedia or the latest from the fine historians at Hebrew University instead of relying on the usual fairy tales
 
if their racism hadn't led them into stupid idiocy like believing they could beat the Romans.

So, just to be clear, everyone who fought against the Romans were racists?

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So just to be clear, you think the Pharisees and Sadduccees weren't?

No, I don't.

In the First Century CE, conversion to Judaism was more common than it is today. In fact, The Babylonian Talmud presents arguments against requiring circumcision for male converts.

If your faith accept converts from outside your community, how can you label it as racist?
 
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Jews murdered by Nazi Christians: 6 million
Christians murdered by Bolshevik Jews: 66 million

How come we never hear about the crimes of the Bolsheviks, of which, at least, there is hard evidence.
Excellent question. I would say it’s safe that dr receives massive funds from the government.lol
Show us the hard evidence of Bolshevik crimes.
 
I counted three nutzies and three quasi-nutzis on this thread so far. The following is for the ones who wish to know more about the Shoah:

I have provided 3/7 parts of an interview with Franz Suchomel, a junior sergeant in the SS who served in the death camp Treblinka in 1942. He was secretly recorded during the interview for the documentary film Shoah and gives invaluable information on the murder of the Jews in that death camp. At one point in the interview, he states that the new gas chambers at Treblinka "could finish off three thousand people in two hours"!

I have also provided the text of the documentary of the parts mentioned below the videos.







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PART ONE

TREBLINKA

Franz Suchomel, SS Unterscharfuehrer

Claude Lanzmann (interviewer): Are we ready?

Suchomel: Yes. We can begin.

Lanzmann: How's your heart? Is everything in order?

Suchomel: Oh, my heart -- for the moment, it's all right. If I have any pain, I'll tell you. We'll have to break off.

Lanzmann: Of course. But your health, in general, is...

Suchomel: The weather today suits me fine. The barometric pressure is high; that's good for me.

Lanzmann: You look to be in good shape, anyway. Let's begin with Treblinka. I believe you got there in August? Was it August 20 or 24?

Suchomel: The eighteenth.

Lanzmann: The eighteenth?

Suchomel: I don't know exactly. Around August 20, I arrived there with seven other men.

Lanzmann: From Berlin?

Suchomel: From Berlin.

Lanzmann: From Lublin?

Suchomel: From Berlin to Warsaw, from Warsaw to Lublin, from Lublin back to Warsaw and from Warsaw to Treblinka.

Lanzmann: What was Treblinka like then?

Suchomel: Treblinka then was operating at full capacity.

Lanzmann: Full capacity?

Suchomel: Full capacity! The Warsaw ghetto was being emptied then. Three trains arrived in two days, each with three, four, five thousand people aboard, all from Warsaw. But at the same time, other trains came in from Kielce and other places. So three trains arrived, and since the offensive against Stalingrad was in full swing, the trainloads of Jews were left on a station siding. What's more, the cars were French, made of steel. So that while five thousand Jews arrived in Treblinka, three
thousand were dead in the cars. They had slashed their wrists, or just died. The ones we unloaded were half dead and half mad. In the other trains from Kielce and elsewhere, at least half were dead. We stacked them here, here, here and here. Thousands of people piled one on top of another on the ramp. Stacked like wood. In addition, other Jews, still alive, waited there for two days: the small gas chambers could no longer handle the load. They functioned day and night in that period.

Lanzmann: Can you please describe, very precisely, your first
impression of Treblinka? Very precisely. It's very important.

Suchomel: My first impression of Treblinka, and that of some of the other men, was catastrophic. For we had not been told how and what...that people were being killed there. They hadn't told us.

Lanzmann: You didn't know?

Suchomel: No!

Lanzmann: Incredible!

Suchomel: But true. I didn't want to go. That was proved at my trial. I was told: "Mr. Suchomel, there are big workshops there for tailors and shoemakers, and you'll be guarding them."

Lanzmann: But you knew it was a camp?

Suchomel: Yes. We were told: "The Fuehrer ordered a resettlement program. It's an order from the Fuehrer." Understand?

Lanzmann: Resettlement program.

Suchomel: Resettlement program. No one ever spoke of killing.


PART TWO


Lanzmann: I understand. Mr. Suchomel, we're not discussing you, only Treblinka. You are a very important eyewitness, and you can explain what Treblinka was.

Suchomel: But don't use my name.

Lanzmann: No, I promised. All right, you've arrived at Treblinka.

Suchomel: So Stadie, the sarge, showed us the camp from end to end. Just as we went by, they were opening the gas-chamber doors, and people fell out like potatoes. Naturally, that horrified and appalled us. We went back and sat down on our stuicases and cried like old women.
Each day one hundred Jews were chosen to drag the corpses to the mass graves. In the evening the Ukrainians drove those Jews into the gas chambers or shot them. Every day!
It was in the hottest days of August. The ground undulated like waves because of the gas.

Lanzmann: From the bodies?

Suchomel: Bear in mind, the graves were maybe eighteen, twenty feet deep, all crammed with bodies! A thin layer of sand, and the heat. You see? It was a hell up there.

Lanzmann: You saw that?

Suchomel: Yes, just once, the first day. We puked and wept.

Lanzmann: You wept?

Suchomel: We wept too, yes. The smell was infernal because gas was constantly escaping. It stank horribly for miles around. You could smell it everywhere. It depended on the wind. The stink was carried on the wind. Understand?

More people kept coming, always more, whom we hadn't the facilities to kill. The brass was in a rush to clean out the Warsaw ghetto. The gas chambers couldn't handle the load. The small gas chambers. The Jews had to wait their turn for a day, two days, three days. They foresaw what was coming. They foresaw it. They may not have been certain, but many knew. There were Jewish women who slashed their daughters' wrists at
night, then cut their own. Others poisoned themselves.
They heard the engine feeding the gas chamber. A tank engine was used in that gas chamber. At Treblinka the only gas used was engine exhaust. Zyklon gas -- that was Auschwitz.
Because of the delay, Eberl, the camp commandant, phoned Lublin and said: "We can't go on this way. I can't do it any longer. We have to break off." Overnight, Wirth arrived. He inspected everything and then left. He returned with people from Belzec, experts. Wirth arranged to suspend the trains. The corpses lying there were cleared away. That was the period of the old gas chambers. Because there were so many dead that couldn't be gotten rid of, the bodies piled up around the gas chambers and stayed there for days. Under this pile of bodies was a
cesspool three inches deep, full of blood, worms and shit. No one wanted to clean it out. The Jews preferred to be shot rather than work there.

Lanzmann: Preferred to be shot?

Suchomel: It was awful. Burying their own people, seeing it all. The dead flesh came off in their hands. So Wirth went there himself with a few Germans and had long belts rigged up that were wrapped around the dead torsos to pull them.

Lanzmann: Who did that?

Suchomel: SS men and Jews.

Lanzmann: Jews too?

Suchomel: Jews too!

Lanzmann: What did the Germans do?

Suchomel: They forced the Jews to...

Lanzmann: They beat them?

Suchomel: ...or they themselves helped with the cleanup.

Lanzmann: Which Germans did that?

Suchomel: Some of our guards who were assigned up there.

Lanzmann: The Germans themselves?

Suchomel: They had to.

Lanzmann: They were in command!

Suchomel: They were in command, but they were also commanded.

Lanzmann: I think the Jews did it.

Suchomel: In that case, the Germans had to lend a hand.


PART THREE


Suchomel: The new gas chambers were built in September 1942.

Lanzmann: Who built them?

Suchomel: Hackenhold and Lambert supervised the Jews who did the work, the bricklaying at least. Ukrainian carpenters made the doors. The gas-chamber doors themselves were armored hunker doors. I think they were brought from Bialystok, from some Russian bunkers.

Lanzmann: What was the capacity of the new gas chambers? There were two of them, right?

Suchomel: Yes. But the old ones hadn't been demolished. When there were a lot of trains, a lot of people, the old ones were put back into service. And here...the Jews say there were five on each side. I say there were four, but I'm not sure. In any case, only the upper row on this side was in action.

Lanzmann: Why not the other side?

Suchomel: Disposing of the bodies would have been too complicated.

Lanzmann: Too far?

Suchomel: Yes. Up there Wirth had built the death camp, assigning a detail of Jewish workers to it. The detail had a fixed number in it, around two hundred people, who worked only in the death camp.

Lanzmann: But what was the capacity of the new gas chambers?

Suchomel: The new gas chambers... Let's see... They could finish off three thousand people in two hours.

Lanzmann: How many people at once in a single gas chamber?

Suchomel: I can't say exactly. The Jews say two hundred. Imagine a room this size.

Lanzmann: They put more in at Auschwitz.

Suchomel: Auschwitz was a factory!

Lanzmann: And Treblinka?

Suchomel: I'll give you my definition. Keep this in mind! Treblinka was a primitive but effective production line of death. Understand?

Lanzmann: Yes. But primitive?

Suchomel: Primitive, yes. But it worked well, that production line ofdeath.

Lanzmann: Was Belzec even more rudimentary?

Suchomel: Belzec was the laboratory. Wirth was camp commandant. He tried everything imaginable there. He got off on the wrong foot. The pits were overflowing and the cesspool seeped out in front of the SS mess hall. It stank -- in front of the mess hall, in front of their barracks.

Lanzmann: Were you at Belzec?

Suchomel: No. Wirth with his own men -- with Franz, with Oberhauser and Hackenhold -- he tried everything there. Those three had to put the bodies in the pits themselves so that Wirth could see how much space he needed. And when they rebelled -- Franz refused -- Wirth beat Franz with a whip. He whipped Hackenhold too. You see?

Lanzmann: Kurt Franz?

Suchomel: Kurt Franz. That's how Wirth was. Then, with that
experiment behind him, he came to Treblinka.
 
Provide a link for the 66 million.

66 million, 55 million, 100 million.

Does it really matter?


CountryMilitary Deaths Civilian and Military Deaths
Russia10,700,00024,000,000
Germany5,533,0008,800,000
China4,000,00020,000,000
Japan2,120,0003,100,000
United States416,800418,500
United Kingdom383,600450,700
Italy301,400457,000
Hungary300,000580,000
Romania300,000833,000
Austria261,000384,700
Poland240,0005,600,000
France217,600567,600
Finland95,00097,000
India87,0002,500,000
Philippines57,0001,000,000
Canada45,40045,400
Australia39,80040,500
Greece35,000800,000
Albania30,00030,200
Czech Republic25,000345,000
Bulgaria22,00025,000
Netherlands17,000301,000
Belgium12,10086,100
New Zealand11,90011,900
South Africa11,90011,900
Ethiopia5,000100,000
Norway3,0009,500
Denmark2,1003,200
Brazil1,0002,000
Luxembourg2,000
Estonia51,000
Latvia227,000
Lithuania353,000
Singapore50,000
Papua New Guinea15,000
Malaysia100,000

 
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Why is Holocaust Denial an attractive ideology?

At the end of World War II, there was still a strong base of support for Nazism among the German population. Particularly amongst the Hitler Jugen who had been raised, nearly from the cradle, to believe in and be devoted to the tenets of National Socialism.

The horrible crimes of the Nazis, particularly those of The Holocaust, are enough, in the minds of most people, to discredit Nazism and make it impossible to publicly support. Despite what you feel about the ideology of Hitler and his minions, no one can excuse the actions that nearly succeeded in wiping out an entire population of people because of what you thought was in their blood.

But, what if you could convince people that The Holocaust didn't happen? Or, even better, was perpetrated by the very victims themselves. What if you can convince people that the victims of The Holocaust were the Nazis themselves who were, after all, just defending themselves?

If you can discredit The Holocaust, then the entire ideology of Nazism, the concept of a 'Master Race' and everything that entails, is back on the table and can be debated.

Denial of the Holocaust if the first, and vital, step in bringing back Nazi Ideology, under a different name.
 
I thought other people besides the Jews died during the holocaust also?
You're absolutely correct. In WWII, 2 governments used the world's attention deficit to clean house at home. Mao killed one hundred million Chinese to solidify his Communist power. In the Union of Soviet Socialists Republic, the Communists were said by some to have killed 20 million to consolidate their power, but other scholars claimed the number of killings rivalled the Chinese eliminations of 100,000,000 also. I think Eisenhower knew, because it aggrieved him so much he pushed Congress to pass the Communist Control Act of 1954 to insure the American people would never fall into such killing fields to give all power to oligarches seeking to expedite control and power quickly in order to avoid the people catching onto human rights violations early Communists used to avoid conflicts when they grabbed all power to perpetrate total control over unruly people. It was nothing but convenience kills for powermongers the Communist mindset requires.
 
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The Nazis targeted many groups in their mission to rid the world of "untermenschen". Gypsies (Roma), Homosexual, Intellectuals, Communists, people with mental or physical disabilities.....
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Sounds like modern day Liberals, amirite?
 
Especially in a period in which the European Jewish population attempted to exist as autonomous & secretive as possible as a matter of self preservation.

European Jews were anything but anonymous. Jewish communities from Brest to Bialystok were easily identifiable and have been cheap and easy targets for 2,000 years.
What is it with Jews and honesty. The question wasn't whether they were easily identifiable--identification is no problem--just follow the trail of dispossessed natives. The question was whether any non-Jews kept an accurate count of the Jews among them and the answer is no. Jews have always fiercely resisted being counted by non-Jewish authorities. Probably for roughly the same reason they so frequently change their names. It's what shysters do.
 

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