Don't Waste Your Votes on Dems or Reps

[Liability]

**** bedwetter33.

The fact is: if you don't vote for Romney (especially in a state where the margin could be close) you are IN EFFECT, for all practical intents and purposes, voting for The ONE.

So, by your "logic", if I don't vote for Obama I am IN EFFECT, voting for Romney. Right?


Hmmm....

Ok... so, doing the math here, if I don't vote for Romney and I don't vote for Obama I am IN EFFECT voting for both Obama and Romney??

I think you've proven that 1 = 0.

You've proved that you are a dullard.

 

[pvsi.]

It has been obvious to me for thirty years that the Dems + Reps are both corrupt. I stopped choosing between them a long time ago and have always voted for Independents or third party candidates. I just have to shake my head at the 99% of voters who keep making the same mistake and voting against themselves by choosing the supposed lesser of two evils.

What will it take for the masses to realize they can vote the liars and thieves out of our government simply by voting for Independents? How difficult is it for people to accept the fact that all of the TV hype for the Dems versus the Reps cons us into making the idiotic choice to pick one of them instead of voting against both corrupt parties? Can't people understand that it makes absolutely no difference which one of those corrupt parties wins? Can't they see that both parties are owned by bankers and corporations and that they both work against average citizens to make the bankers and corporations richer?

I ask all of you to break free of the hype that cons you into throwing your votes away by making the idiotic choice of voting for Dems or Reps. I'm running. Write me in. Here's my platform. (Sorry, the forum won't let me post any links until I write 15 posts.) Maybe someone will post the link for me. it's johnbestjr at blogspot dot com

Why am I not surprised that you have full of red dots like me, instead of green dots? oh yea, because there's government bots here who give out minuses to people who make sense. red means good

 

[Liability]

It has been obvious to me for thirty years that the Dems + Reps are both corrupt. I stopped choosing between them a long time ago and have always voted for Independents or third party candidates. I just have to shake my head at the 99% of voters who keep making the same mistake and voting against themselves by choosing the supposed lesser of two evils.

What will it take for the masses to realize they can vote the liars and thieves out of our government simply by voting for Independents? How difficult is it for people to accept the fact that all of the TV hype for the Dems versus the Reps cons us into making the idiotic choice to pick one of them instead of voting against both corrupt parties? Can't people understand that it makes absolutely no difference which one of those corrupt parties wins? Can't they see that both parties are owned by bankers and corporations and that they both work against average citizens to make the bankers and corporations richer?

I ask all of you to break free of the hype that cons you into throwing your votes away by making the idiotic choice of voting for Dems or Reps. I'm running. Write me in. Here's my platform. (Sorry, the forum won't let me post any links until I write 15 posts.) Maybe someone will post the link for me. it's johnbestjr at blogspot dot com

Why am I not surprised that you have full of red dots like me, instead of green dots? oh yea, because there's government bots here who give out minuses to people who make sense. red means good

Wrong again. You are a loon.

Red means you have been determined to have a lousy reputation.

In your case it is obviously a valid conclusion.

In bedwetter33's case, the jury doesn't seem to have required much time to reach a verdict, either.

You may take the interwebz too seriously, but at least your credibility sucks as much dick as you do.

 

[bettwice33]

**** bedwetter33.

The fact is: if you don't vote for Romney (especially in a state where the margin could be close) you are IN EFFECT, for all practical intents and purposes, voting for The ONE.

It does matter because we can ill afford (if we can afford at all) another term with Obama as President.

He HAS to be voted out.

Please, show us you understand what's going on here. Obama is not now and has never been the Prez. Lord Rothschild is our Prez. Obama is his puppet. Romney is also his puppet. Keep repeating this until it sinks in.

Please take a quarter and use it to go out and buy a brain. Yours is defective. It doesn't work, you AlexJones cock-sucking idiot.

You assholes and your conspiracy shit with "the Rothschilds" crap are so pathetic and so stupid. You are a waste of oxygen.

Good insults! Not much substance to your argument though.

 

[The T]

Please, show us you understand what's going on here. Obama is not now and has never been the Prez. Lord Rothschild is our Prez. Obama is his puppet. Romney is also his puppet. Keep repeating this until it sinks in.

Please take a quarter and use it to go out and buy a brain. Yours is defective. It doesn't work, you AlexJones cock-sucking idiot.

You assholes and your conspiracy shit with "the Rothschilds" crap are so pathetic and so stupid. You are a waste of oxygen.

Good insults! Not much substance to your argument though.

Go back and tell Alex WE didn't bite, will you?

 

[Desperado]

We have had a Democratic President and a Democratic controlled Congress.
Nothing got done because the Democrats blame the Republicans, even though they controlled everything.
We have had a Republican President and a Republican controlled Congress.
Again Nothing get done because the Republicans blame the Democrats, even though they controlled everything.
Nothing changes because neither side want it to change. That should be the clue that both the Democrats and Republicans are only the flip side of the same coin and nothing will change until there is a strong third party challenge.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Ron Paul has nothing to do with this. We're debating an irrational voting strategy.

**** you....you did not say that to the people who were talking about McCain a while back...as a matter of fact you commented on what was said about him.....is Paul somehow different?.....if Ron Paul was your guy and you dont like what i said about him tough shit.....i did not bring the guy up,someone else did......and you did not say this to that person either.. ....be consistent Black......

I really have no idea what you're trying to say here. Can you rephrase it or something?

by playing stupid like Dean does.....your just as dishonest as he is.....how is that?....

 

[dblack]

**** you....you did not say that to the people who were talking about McCain a while back...as a matter of fact you commented on what was said about him.....is Paul somehow different?.....if Ron Paul was your guy and you dont like what i said about him tough shit.....i did not bring the guy up,someone else did......and you did not say this to that person either.. ....be consistent Black......

I really have no idea what you're trying to say here. Can you rephrase it or something?

by playing stupid like Dean does.....your just as dishonest as he is.....how is that?....

Sure got it. Something made you angry and you blustered a bit. **** you too?

 

[healthmyths]

It has been obvious to me for thirty years that the Dems + Reps are both corrupt. I stopped choosing between them a long time ago and have always voted for Independents or third party candidates. I just have to shake my head at the 99% of voters who keep making the same mistake and voting against themselves by choosing the supposed lesser of two evils.

What will it take for the masses to realize they can vote the liars and thieves out of our government simply by voting for Independents? How difficult is it for people to accept the fact that all of the TV hype for the Dems versus the Reps cons us into making the idiotic choice to pick one of them instead of voting against both corrupt parties? Can't people understand that it makes absolutely no difference which one of those corrupt parties wins? Can't they see that both parties are owned by bankers and corporations and that they both work against average citizens to make the bankers and corporations richer?

I ask all of you to break free of the hype that cons you into throwing your votes away by making the idiotic choice of voting for Dems or Reps. I'm running. Write me in. Here's my platform. (Sorry, the forum won't let me post any links until I write 15 posts.) Maybe someone will post the link for me. it's johnbestjr at blogspot dot com

PLEASE IDIOTS like YOU post stupid, personal observations that evidently have not taken a few minutes to do an Internet SEARCH!

reality check:

of the 2008 election 131 million voters:

black 12.1% 15,851,000 91% for Obama 87% today
Hispanics 7.4% 9,694,000 more democrats 67%
Asian 2.5% 3,275,000 not sure
White 76.3% 99,953,000 44% Democrat Obama
Dissecting the 2008 Electorate: Most Diverse in U.S. History | Pew Hispanic Center


The 46% of registered voters supporting Obama today is five percentage points below the 51% supporting him in final weeks of the 2008 election campaign.

June 12, 2012
Similarly, whites' support for Obama is six points lower than it was in October/November 2008 (38% vs. 44%), and blacks' is down four points (87% vs. 91%). At the same time, Hispanics' support, at 67%, is essentially unchanged.
Obama's White Base Shows Cracks Compared With 2008

FACTS for the 2012 Election:
Conclusion if election today
38% of whites or 37.9 million for Obama
87% of blacks or 13.8 million for Obama
67% of Hispanics or 6.5 million
Total voters: 58.2 million of 131 million
leaving 72.7 million AGAINST OBAMA or 55%!

Right now ..it appears Obama Won't be re-elected!!!

So all of your personal ANECDOTAL totally subjective comments have NO relevancy!

Unless you are totally berift of logic follow this:

Laws that daily affect our lives are passed by politicians that follow what they think is the will of the people. People express their will in reality in polling of people's opinions.
Opinions are generally based on personal experience first FACTS last!
FACTS that come from OTHER then MSM generally are unbiased and supported by data.

That is how you should form opinions which make polls which influence politicianS!

USE FACTs like I've done abovE and based on the FACTS today Obama is OUT!
Votes by Congress are representative of what politicians reading polls think are the people's will.

Your inane statistics leave out the fact that Obama and Romney both work for Rothschild. Please wake up.

NOT INANE but the facts! DEAL with the fact they are NOT MY facts!
This is the real way people voted and right now will vote REGARDLESS your idiocy Obama out!

 

[The T]

**** you....you did not say that to the people who were talking about McCain a while back...as a matter of fact you commented on what was said about him.....is Paul somehow different?.....if Ron Paul was your guy and you dont like what i said about him tough shit.....i did not bring the guy up,someone else did......and you did not say this to that person either.. ....be consistent Black......

I really have no idea what you're trying to say here. Can you rephrase it or something?

by playing stupid like Dean does.....your just as dishonest as he is.....how is that?....

Seems as the OP's premise has been rippped apart...Alex Jones strikes out agian.

maybe if the OP was here will a bullhorn accusing the Bilderbergs of having baked babies shipped in during a conference wrapped in GOLD FOIL for them to eat would have sufficed?

 

[pvsi.]

your credibility sucks as much dick as you do.

 

[bettwice33]

PLEASE IDIOTS like YOU post stupid, personal observations that evidently have not taken a few minutes to do an Internet SEARCH!

reality check:

of the 2008 election 131 million voters:

black 12.1% 15,851,000 91% for Obama 87% today
Hispanics 7.4% 9,694,000 more democrats 67%
Asian 2.5% 3,275,000 not sure
White 76.3% 99,953,000 44% Democrat Obama
Dissecting the 2008 Electorate: Most Diverse in U.S. History | Pew Hispanic Center


The 46% of registered voters supporting Obama today is five percentage points below the 51% supporting him in final weeks of the 2008 election campaign.

June 12, 2012
Similarly, whites' support for Obama is six points lower than it was in October/November 2008 (38% vs. 44%), and blacks' is down four points (87% vs. 91%). At the same time, Hispanics' support, at 67%, is essentially unchanged.
Obama's White Base Shows Cracks Compared With 2008

FACTS for the 2012 Election:
Conclusion if election today
38% of whites or 37.9 million for Obama
87% of blacks or 13.8 million for Obama
67% of Hispanics or 6.5 million
Total voters: 58.2 million of 131 million
leaving 72.7 million AGAINST OBAMA or 55%!

Right now ..it appears Obama Won't be re-elected!!!

So all of your personal ANECDOTAL totally subjective comments have NO relevancy!

Unless you are totally berift of logic follow this:

Laws that daily affect our lives are passed by politicians that follow what they think is the will of the people. People express their will in reality in polling of people's opinions.
Opinions are generally based on personal experience first FACTS last!
FACTS that come from OTHER then MSM generally are unbiased and supported by data.

That is how you should form opinions which make polls which influence politicianS!

USE FACTs like I've done abovE and based on the FACTS today Obama is OUT!
Votes by Congress are representative of what politicians reading polls think are the people's will.

Your inane statistics leave out the fact that Obama and Romney both work for Rothschild. Please wake up.

NOT INANE but the facts! DEAL with the fact they are NOT MY facts!
This is the real way people voted and right now will vote REGARDLESS your idiocy Obama out!

Obama is not the one you have to be concerned with. Rothschild arranged for him to win the last election so he could laugh at the USA for being stupid enough to elect him.

 

[pvsi.]

Obama is not the one you have to be concerned with. Rothschild arranged for him to win the last election so he could laugh at the USA for being stupid enough to elect him.

Bettwice,, if you want to be a senator or congressman, we can make it happen, would you be willing to make this oath on video:

- I will only serve one 4 year term and then never serve in government again.
- I will not accept any gifts or donations for my campaign from anyone
- I will unconditionally vote for the following 5 laws immediately once elected:
1. In order to end the elite socialist monopoly of influence, using money, Create national political media outlet, for the sole purpose of political debates - this will cost tax payers nothing as it will be run by volunteers who will be elected and replaced by the people, just like politicians. they will be considered government officials, and will be upheld to the same bribery law listed below. presence of this media outlet will be made known as follows:
2. A law that requires any private media outlet, that wants to have the right to broadcast any political debate, to air 10 second ads on their radio or television, or, 2"x2" ads on their web sites or news papers, stating the following: "WARNING: being mislead by propaganda on the special interest controlled news media, can be dangerous to your society, you can alternatively watch the political coverage on a national political media"
3. Law that makes it a crime, for any special interest lobbyists or anyone else to make any contributions to public officials. and, for public officials to accept any money or gifts, because public officials, are supposed to represent everyone equally - they are not businesses, they can not be turned into prostitutes, they have nothing to sell but humans. children. elderly.
4. Set up an internet voting system in all parts of the nation, so that each vote can be easily registered and verified.
5. Implement negative voting, in all elections, in order to offset any propaganda attempts for any candidate. each voter gets one for vote, as well as one against vote. so that we can also vote against a candidate, if we feel he was overwhealmingly publicized by the special interests, targeting ignorant and stupid voters

 

[MaryL]

Bravo. I couldn't agree more. I haven't voted in the last 10 years or so. Independent candidates are just spoilers, and the OTHER two parties are a joke. Any way you slice it, its a hobson's choice. Whether they are Liberal or Conservative, they are usually wealthy defending the staus quo of the wealthy. The last GOOD president we had was Eisenhower.

 

[bettwice33]

Obama is not the one you have to be concerned with. Rothschild arranged for him to win the last election so he could laugh at the USA for being stupid enough to elect him.

Bettwice,, if you want to be a senator or congressman, we can make it happen, would you be willing to make this oath on video:

- I will only serve one 4 year term and then never serve in government again.
- I will not accept any gifts or donations for my campaign from anyone
- I will unconditionally vote for the following 5 laws immediately once elected:
1. In order to end the elite socialist monopoly of influence, using money, Create national political media outlet, for the sole purpose of political debates - this will cost tax payers nothing as it will be run by volunteers who will be elected and replaced by the people, just like politicians. they will be considered government officials, and will be upheld to the same bribery law listed below. presence of this media outlet will be made known as follows:
2. A law that requires any private media outlet, that wants to have the right to broadcast any political debate, to air 10 second ads on their radio or television, or, 2"x2" ads on their web sites or news papers, stating the following: "WARNING: being mislead by propaganda on the special interest controlled news media, can be dangerous to your society, you can alternatively watch the political coverage on a national political media"
3. Law that makes it a crime, for any special interest lobbyists or anyone else to make any contributions to public officials. and, for public officials to accept any money or gifts, because public officials, are supposed to represent everyone equally - they are not businesses, they can not be turned into prostitutes, they have nothing to sell but humans. children. elderly.
4. Set up an internet voting system in all parts of the nation, so that each vote can be easily registered and verified.
5. Implement negative voting, in all elections, in order to offset any propaganda attempts for any candidate. each voter gets one for vote, as well as one against vote. so that we can also vote against a candidate, if we feel he was overwhealmingly publicized by the special interests, targeting ignorant and stupid voters

I don't want to be part of Congress, at least not as it exists now working under Rothschild. I do agree with you though except, as Prez, I would seize the networks from Rothschild and the other scum and give everyone equal time who wants to run for office.
I think hackers would subvert your internet voting system and that would also nullify secret ballots, something we don't want. Why not go back to all paper (or cardboard) ballots?
Having TV owned by corporations takes away freedom of speech. TV should be in the hands of the public. Perhaps a board of overseers who represent segments of the population could manage it usefully.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I really have no idea what you're trying to say here. Can you rephrase it or something?

by playing stupid like Dean does.....your just as dishonest as he is.....how is that?....

Sure got it. Something made you angry and you blustered a bit. **** you too?

you got on me for doing the same thing you did earlier....now do you know what that something was?.......

 

[pvsi.]

I will have to chop up your thread

I don't want to be part of Congress, at least not as it exists now

Neither do I

1. I do agree with you though except, as Prez, I would seize the networks from Rothschild and the other scum and give everyone equal time who wants to run for office.

No exceptions, I would wipe them all out and do similar thing, but as I explained. basicaly the same, only they can not whine about it, so pay closer attention to 5 laws please... read them again. the first two.

I think hackers would subvert your internet voting system and that would also nullify secret ballots, something we don't want. Why not go back to all paper (or cardboard) ballots?

Not any more then paper ballots, imagine banks doing all their accounting on paper,

 

[hortysir]

It has been obvious to me for thirty years that the Dems + Reps are both corrupt. I stopped choosing between them a long time ago and have always voted for Independents or third party candidates. I just have to shake my head at the 99% of voters who keep making the same mistake and voting against themselves by choosing the supposed lesser of two evils.

What will it take for the masses to realize they can vote the liars and thieves out of our government simply by voting for Independents? How difficult is it for people to accept the fact that all of the TV hype for the Dems versus the Reps cons us into making the idiotic choice to pick one of them instead of voting against both corrupt parties? Can't people understand that it makes absolutely no difference which one of those corrupt parties wins? Can't they see that both parties are owned by bankers and corporations and that they both work against average citizens to make the bankers and corporations richer?

I ask all of you to break free of the hype that cons you into throwing your votes away by making the idiotic choice of voting for Dems or Reps. I'm running. Write me in. Here's my platform. (Sorry, the forum won't let me post any links until I write 15 posts.) Maybe someone will post the link for me. it's johnbestjr at blogspot dot com

And how's that worked out so far?

What policies have been enacted by these candidates?

 

[dblack]

by playing stupid like Dean does.....your just as dishonest as he is.....how is that?....

Sure got it. Something made you angry and you blustered a bit. **** you too?

you got on me for doing the same thing you did earlier....now do you know what that something was?.......

No... I wasn't getting on you about anything. I was simply trying to keep T from turning this into yet-another-paulbot-bashing thread. It has nothing to do with Ron Paul. We're discussing the futility of voting for Dems and Republicans as though they are the only choices. Someone else cited, as an example of this kind of thing, the way a lot of conservatives voted for McCain, even though he was anything but a conservative, simply because he was a Republican - and I agreed.

Anyway, I'm not sure what you're upset about. There was no insult intended or implied.

 

[Liability]

your credibility sucks as much dick as you do.

I have a question for you, yes.

Were you always an unfunny, unoriginal yutz, or have you studied hard to become such an abject loser?