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The only obligations I have are the ones I agreed to. I never agreed to pay taxes or to may for all your shit government programs.

Tax deductions are not corporate subsidies.

Which obligations did you agree too?

Tax deductions ARE financial AID, thus subsidies.

My mortgage is an obligation I agreed to. Taxes are ransom I pay to the devil.

Tax deductions are not financial aid.
 
You're an idiot. I believe it's right to pay for what you've agreed to pay for. I never agreed to pay for any so-called government "services."

Which did you agree? Make sure you post the form you filled out.
 
You can read up on William Shockley, who got the Nobel prize for inventing the transistor.

That's as much as I care to go into it. I really don't care if you insist on proving you're an ignoramus.

As usual, you can't.
 
Nope. You don't know shit about how the transistor and the integrated circuit came to be, do you?

Then refute my post.

You can read up on William Shockley, who got the Nobel prize for inventing the transistor.

That's as much as I care to go into it. I really don't care if you insist on proving you're an ignoramus.

He sealed that argument a long time ago.

bripats handle should be HERPES.
 
I'd rather just go straight to the heart of the matter. Cut the programs that pay out the money.

So people that can't afford healthcare and food because they have an employer that won't do the right thing should get sick and starve? You're a POS, herpes.
 
My mortgage is an obligation I agreed to. Taxes are ransom I pay to the devil.

Tax deductions are not financial aid.

How about public financed service such as roads?

Tax deductions ARE subsidies because they are financial aid.
 
I'd rather just go straight to the heart of the matter. Cut the programs that pay out the money.

So people that can't afford healthcare and food because they have an employer that won't do the right thing should get sick and starve? You're a POS, herpes.

I thought you were against subsidizing Walmart. It appears you can't make up your mind.

If you're so eager to help Walmart employees, then simply go into the store and hand out checks to them. No government subsidies required.
 
My mortgage is an obligation I agreed to. Taxes are ransom I pay to the devil.

Tax deductions are not financial aid.

How about public financed service such as roads?

Tax deductions ARE subsidies because they are financial aid.

Government forces me to use it's roads. And it also forces me to pay for them. I have no "obligation" to pay for things I'm forced to use. Just check with a lawyer if you disagree.
 
I thought you were against subsidizing Walmart. It appears you can't make up your mind.

If you're so eager to help Walmart employees, then simply go into the store and hand out checks to them. No government subsidies required.

I am against subsidizing WalMart.

So let's do this:

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 300 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure. Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.
 
Government forces me to use it's roads. And it also forces me to pay for them. I have no "obligation" to pay for things I'm forced to use. Just check with a lawyer if you disagree.

This has got to be the most stupid post ever written.....

They forced you to drive on roadways to the store.....

They forced you to call the fire department when your house was on fire.....

They force you to drive to the store. You don't like shopping, so it's the governments fault.
 
I thought you were against subsidizing Walmart. It appears you can't make up your mind.

If you're so eager to help Walmart employees, then simply go into the store and hand out checks to them. No government subsidies required.

I am against subsidizing WalMart.

So let's do this:

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 300 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure. Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

Let's not do that. I've never seen so much concentrated stupidity in a single post.
 
I thought you were against subsidizing Walmart. It appears you can't make up your mind.

If you're so eager to help Walmart employees, then simply go into the store and hand out checks to them. No government subsidies required.

I am against subsidizing WalMart.

So let's do this:

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 300 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure. Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

Let's not do that. I've never seen so much concentrated stupidity in a single post.

Reducing all taxes and fees as well as employee costs for small business to a maximum of 35-40% is stupidity?

A small business owner can hire 20 more employees and provide them benefits and his/her costs never exceed 35-40%.

In addition, everyone in town receives a huge raise making many additional sales possible.

Payroll tax revenues will triple

Sales tax revenues will at least triple

It's a win-win.

Unfortunately, Republicans will NEVER go with this. Republicans believe that employees aren't worth that much.
 
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I thought you were against subsidizing Walmart. It appears you can't make up your mind.

If you're so eager to help Walmart employees, then simply go into the store and hand out checks to them. No government subsidies required.

I am against subsidizing WalMart.

So let's do this:

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 300 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure. Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

Let's not do that. I've never seen so much concentrated stupidity in a single post.

Reducing all taxes and fees as well as employee costs for small business to a maximum of 35-40% is stupidity?

A small business owner can hire 20 more employees and provide them benefits and his/her costs never exceed 35-40%.

In addition, everyone in town receives a huge raise making many additional sales possible.

Payroll taxes will treble

Sales tax will at least triple

It's a win-win.

Unfortunately, Republicans will NEVER go with this. Republicans believe that employees aren't worth that much.

You don't want to reduce taxes on small business, you want to increase them. You want to limit deductions to a few categories. That means businesses will be paying taxes an a large part of their gross revenue.
 
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You don't want to reduce taxes on small business, you want to increase them. You want to limit deductions to a few categories. That means businesses will be paying taxes an a large part of their gross revenue.

In a typical small business, what percentage of gross are all taxes, fees, and employees costs?
 
You don't want to reduce taxes on small business, you want to increase them. You want to limit deductions to a few categories. That means businesses will be paying taxes an a large part of their gross revenue.

In a typical small business, what percentage of gross are all taxes, fees, and employees costs?
If you own a hardware store, then the bulk of your expenses are your inventory.
 
Ingenuity and private investment makes jobs possible. For example - Steve Jobs developed the iPad, promoted it's use for paperless books which peaked interest and created demand among consumers, this led to copycat products like the Kindle, which increased competition and demand among potential buyers, which LED to further spending and the creation of more jobs to meet the demand.

Without the ingenuity behind innovations like the iPad, Blue Ray players, Flat Screen televisions, supported by private investors, there would be no spike in consumer spending and a need for jobs to meet that demand.

Steve Jobs didn't develop the iPad, his employees did.

The LED and computer microchip were developed by NASA.

His employees aren't smart enough to dream up and develop the iPad, they only followed after his idea. Remember, the development of the apple computer began with two guys in a garage pursuing after an idea. That business empire, which would compete with Microsoft, would later employ thousands of jobs, all thanks to someone's creative innovation.
 
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