Don t Let Anybody Tell You That Businesses Create Jobs

[OnePercenter]

My answer is to increase the tax burden on everyone until the debt is paid and budget balanced.

That includes most especially the "47%" paying no Federal Personal Income Tax.

We amended the Constitution to allow an income tax, it is time to amend the Constitution to allow a head tax, payable in cash or labor.

Increase the tax burden on the middle class. That would be STUPID.

 

[OnePercenter]

The dependent class has gotten away with mass murder!!!

It is high time we changed our way of doing things.

I am for a guaranteed job for every able bodied person, but no aid to them.

If they refuse to take a job at a salary commensurate with their skills, or lack of same, let them starve or let their momma feed them.

We could employ every person on welfare today just cleaning up trash and tearing down our decaying cities.

Corporate America has gotten away with mass murder.

Employees make all the money for an employer. How much money should they make?

 

[OnePercenter]

It was an analogy.

Keep filing your quarterlies and subsidizing the non-productive in order to keep your deductions and your complex tax code.

Apparently you are content with things the way they are.

I LOVE the complex tax code. I get to deduct my boat, my jet, and every place I live! Thank Republicans for that.

 

[Roadrunner]

The dependent class has gotten away with mass murder!!!

It is high time we changed our way of doing things.

I am for a guaranteed job for every able bodied person, but no aid to them.

If they refuse to take a job at a salary commensurate with their skills, or lack of same, let them starve or let their momma feed them.

We could employ every person on welfare today just cleaning up trash and tearing down our decaying cities.

Corporate America has gotten away with mass murder.

Employees make all the money for an employer. How much money should they make?

Corporate America needs to get weaned from the government tit too.

And labor is but one of the factors of production.

The employer provides the capital, equipment, raw materials etc, without which the employee would have no job in the first place.

 

[OnePercenter]

SO according to you getting fired from your job is also a subsidy because it lowers your tax bill due to reduced income.
QED, you are a total nincompoop.
Another nail in the coffin of Naught Percenter.

If you get fired the government is going to give you a benefit?

 

[Roadrunner]

SO according to you getting fired from your job is also a subsidy because it lowers your tax bill due to reduced income.
QED, you are a total nincompoop.
Another nail in the coffin of Naught Percenter.

If you get fired the government is going to give you a benefit?

In theory, the government give you your unemployment insurance benefit.

Your employer "pays" the insurance by paying you less.

When fired, you get a payout.

Of course, extending it out to two years in insane, no premium paid covers that.

Part of the reason we are so in debt.

 

[OnePercenter]

I still think lower rates and cut all the bullshit and simplify things is a better option.

Unless of course your business is tax preparation.

Business putting people to work would be a better plan. Corporate America won't do anything good for America unless incentivized or regulated.

 

[Oldstyle]

Sowell is a well respected economist. You are someone who pretends to be a millionaire and have an MBA on an internet chat board.

Sowell is a hack, a 1%er with a book to sell.

Thomas Sowell is a hack? You continue to embarrass yourself. I had the good fortune to take an economics class with Dr. Sowell during his stay at Amherst College. He was one of the best professors I ever studied under. He doesn't have "a" book to sell since he is the author of many...

Books by Sowell

• 2013. Intellectuals and Race. Basic Books. p. 192. ISBN 978-0465058723.
• 2011. The Thomas Sowell Reader. Basic Books. p. 464. ISBN 978-0-465-02250-2.
• 2010. Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy (4th ed.). Cambridge, Mass: Perseus Books Group. ISBN 978-0-465-02252-6.
• 2010. Dismantling America. Basic Books. p. 352. ISBN 978-0-465-02251-9.
• 2010. Intellectuals and Society. Basic Books. p. 416. ISBN 978-0-465-01948-9.
• 2009. The Housing Boom and Bust. Basic Books. p. 184. ISBN 978-0-465-01880-2.
• 2008. Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One (2nd ed.). Basic Books. p. 400. ISBN 978-0-465-00345-7. OCLC 260206351.
• 2007. Economic Facts and Fallacies. Basic Books. p. 262. ISBN 978-0-465-00349-5.
• 2007. Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy (3rd ed.). Cambridge, Mass: Perseus Books Group. ISBN 978-0-465-00260-3. OCLC 76897806.
• 2007. A Man of Letters. San Francisco: Encounter Books. p. 320. ISBN 978-1-59403-196-0.
• 2006. Ever Wonder Why? And Other Controversial Essays. Stanford, CA: Hoover Institution Press. p. 460. ISBN 978-0-8179-4752-1.
• 2006. On Classical Economics. New Haven, Conn: Yale University Press. 2006. p. 320. ISBN 978-0-300-12606-8.
• 2005. Black Rednecks and White Liberals: And Other Cultural And Ethnic Issues. San Francisco: Encounter Books. p. 360. ISBN 978-1-59403-086-4.
• 2004. Affirmative Action Around the World: An Empirical Study. New Haven, Conn: Yale University Press. p. 256. ISBN 978-0-300-10775-3.
• 2004. Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy, revised and expanded ed. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-08145-2 (1st ed. 2000)
• 2003. Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One, ISBN 0-465-08143-6
• 2002. The Einstein Syndrome: Bright Children Who Talk Late, ISBN 0-465-08141-X
• 2002. Controversial Essays, ISBN 0-8179-2992-4
• 2002. A Personal Odyssey, ISBN 0-684-86465-7
• 2002. The Quest For Cosmic Justice, ISBN 0-684-86463-0
• 1998. Conquests and Cultures: An International History, ISBN 0-465-01400-3
• 1996. Migrations and Cultures: A World View, ISBN 0-465-04589-8 OCLC 41748039
• 1996. The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation As a Basis for Social Policy. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-08995-X
• 1995. Race and Culture: A World View. Description & chapter previews. ISBN 0-465-06796-4
• 1993. Is Reality Optional? ISBN 978-0817992620
• 1993. Inside American Education, ISBN 0-7432-5408-2
• 1990. Preferential Policies: An International Perspective, ISBN 0-688-08599-7
• 1987. A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political Struggles. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-06912-6
• 1987. Compassion Versus Guilt and Other Essays. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-07114-7
• 1986. Education: Assumptions Versus History. Hoover Press, ISBN 0-8179-8112-8
• 1985. Marxism: Philosophy and Economics. Quill, ISBN 0-688-06426-4
• 1984. Civil Rights: Rhetoric or Reality? William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-03113-7
• 1983. The Economics and Politics of Race. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-01891-2
• 1981. Ethnic America: A History. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-02074-7
• 1981. Markets and Minorities. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-04399-2
• 1980. Knowledge and Decisions. Basic Books.
• 1975. Race and Economics. David McKay Company Inc, ISBN 0-679-30262-X
• 1972. Say's Law: A Historical Analysis. Princeton University Press. ISBN 0-691-04166-0

 

[OnePercenter]

Thats true now. Tax is paid only on actual income from an operation. If the operation earns no income it pays no tax.
What you seem to want is to have even unprofitable businesses paying tax on something--you're not very clear what.

Due to subsidies.

 

[OnePercenter]

BTW, what I want is America, all of America, to pay its fuckin' debt and not pass it on to our kids.

The you should agree with this.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 300 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure. Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

 

[OnePercenter]

No, was a pioneer in indoor high quality marijuana production.
Before crack was even invented.

So you paid tax on the monies you received?

 

[OnePercenter]

Corporate America needs to get weaned from the government tit too.

And labor is but one of the factors of production.

The employer provides the capital, equipment, raw materials etc, without which the employee would have no job in the first place.

The employer provides the platform. The employee does all of the work. The employer collects the monies.

 

[OnePercenter]

In theory, the government give you your unemployment insurance benefit.

Your employer "pays" the insurance by paying you less.

When fired, you get a payout.

Of course, extending it out to two years in insane, no premium paid covers that.

Part of the reason we are so in debt.

An unemployed person receives a payment to cover his/her basic needs so they don't become dependent on taxpayers.

An employer deducts the cost and reducing the costs dramatically.

When you are fired without cause or are laid-off you get a payoff.

Extending unemployment benefits was due to the worst economic failure in history caused by Republicans/corporate America/wall street which is why we are 'so in debt.'

 

[OnePercenter]

Sowell is a well respected economist. You are someone who pretends to be a millionaire and have an MBA on an internet chat board.

Sowell is a hack, a 1%er with a book to sell.

Thomas Sowell is a hack? You continue to embarrass yourself. I had the good fortune to take an economics class with Dr. Sowell during his stay at Amherst College. He was one of the best professors I ever studied under. He doesn't have "a" book to sell since he is the author of many...

Books by Sowell

• 2013. Intellectuals and Race. Basic Books. p. 192. ISBN 978-0465058723.
• 2011. The Thomas Sowell Reader. Basic Books. p. 464. ISBN 978-0-465-02250-2.
• 2010. Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy (4th ed.). Cambridge, Mass: Perseus Books Group. ISBN 978-0-465-02252-6.
• 2010. Dismantling America. Basic Books. p. 352. ISBN 978-0-465-02251-9.
• 2010. Intellectuals and Society. Basic Books. p. 416. ISBN 978-0-465-01948-9.
• 2009. The Housing Boom and Bust. Basic Books. p. 184. ISBN 978-0-465-01880-2.
• 2008. Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One (2nd ed.). Basic Books. p. 400. ISBN 978-0-465-00345-7. OCLC 260206351.
• 2007. Economic Facts and Fallacies. Basic Books. p. 262. ISBN 978-0-465-00349-5.
• 2007. Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy (3rd ed.). Cambridge, Mass: Perseus Books Group. ISBN 978-0-465-00260-3. OCLC 76897806.
• 2007. A Man of Letters. San Francisco: Encounter Books. p. 320. ISBN 978-1-59403-196-0.
• 2006. Ever Wonder Why? And Other Controversial Essays. Stanford, CA: Hoover Institution Press. p. 460. ISBN 978-0-8179-4752-1.
• 2006. On Classical Economics. New Haven, Conn: Yale University Press. 2006. p. 320. ISBN 978-0-300-12606-8.
• 2005. Black Rednecks and White Liberals: And Other Cultural And Ethnic Issues. San Francisco: Encounter Books. p. 360. ISBN 978-1-59403-086-4.
• 2004. Affirmative Action Around the World: An Empirical Study. New Haven, Conn: Yale University Press. p. 256. ISBN 978-0-300-10775-3.
• 2004. Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy, revised and expanded ed. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-08145-2 (1st ed. 2000)
• 2003. Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One, ISBN 0-465-08143-6
• 2002. The Einstein Syndrome: Bright Children Who Talk Late, ISBN 0-465-08141-X
• 2002. Controversial Essays, ISBN 0-8179-2992-4
• 2002. A Personal Odyssey, ISBN 0-684-86465-7
• 2002. The Quest For Cosmic Justice, ISBN 0-684-86463-0
• 1998. Conquests and Cultures: An International History, ISBN 0-465-01400-3
• 1996. Migrations and Cultures: A World View, ISBN 0-465-04589-8 OCLC 41748039
• 1996. The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation As a Basis for Social Policy. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-08995-X
• 1995. Race and Culture: A World View. Description & chapter previews. ISBN 0-465-06796-4
• 1993. Is Reality Optional? ISBN 978-0817992620
• 1993. Inside American Education, ISBN 0-7432-5408-2
• 1990. Preferential Policies: An International Perspective, ISBN 0-688-08599-7
• 1987. A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political Struggles. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-06912-6
• 1987. Compassion Versus Guilt and Other Essays. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-07114-7
• 1986. Education: Assumptions Versus History. Hoover Press, ISBN 0-8179-8112-8
• 1985. Marxism: Philosophy and Economics. Quill, ISBN 0-688-06426-4
• 1984. Civil Rights: Rhetoric or Reality? William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-03113-7
• 1983. The Economics and Politics of Race. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-01891-2
• 1981. Ethnic America: A History. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-02074-7
• 1981. Markets and Minorities. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-04399-2
• 1980. Knowledge and Decisions. Basic Books.
• 1975. Race and Economics. David McKay Company Inc, ISBN 0-679-30262-X
• 1972. Say's Law: A Historical Analysis. Princeton University Press. ISBN 0-691-04166-0

A one percenter with something to sell.

 

[Oldstyle]

I still think lower rates and cut all the bullshit and simplify things is a better option.

Unless of course your business is tax preparation.

Business putting people to work would be a better plan. Corporate America won't do anything good for America unless incentivized or regulated.

Government does not need to incentivize

Sowell is a well respected economist. You are someone who pretends to be a millionaire and have an MBA on an internet chat board.

Sowell is a hack, a 1%er with a book to sell.

Thomas Sowell is a hack? You continue to embarrass yourself. I had the good fortune to take an economics class with Dr. Sowell during his stay at Amherst College. He was one of the best professors I ever studied under. He doesn't have "a" book to sell since he is the author of many...

Books by Sowell

• 2013. Intellectuals and Race. Basic Books. p. 192. ISBN 978-0465058723.
• 2011. The Thomas Sowell Reader. Basic Books. p. 464. ISBN 978-0-465-02250-2.
• 2010. Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy (4th ed.). Cambridge, Mass: Perseus Books Group. ISBN 978-0-465-02252-6.
• 2010. Dismantling America. Basic Books. p. 352. ISBN 978-0-465-02251-9.
• 2010. Intellectuals and Society. Basic Books. p. 416. ISBN 978-0-465-01948-9.
• 2009. The Housing Boom and Bust. Basic Books. p. 184. ISBN 978-0-465-01880-2.
• 2008. Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One (2nd ed.). Basic Books. p. 400. ISBN 978-0-465-00345-7. OCLC 260206351.
• 2007. Economic Facts and Fallacies. Basic Books. p. 262. ISBN 978-0-465-00349-5.
• 2007. Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy (3rd ed.). Cambridge, Mass: Perseus Books Group. ISBN 978-0-465-00260-3. OCLC 76897806.
• 2007. A Man of Letters. San Francisco: Encounter Books. p. 320. ISBN 978-1-59403-196-0.
• 2006. Ever Wonder Why? And Other Controversial Essays. Stanford, CA: Hoover Institution Press. p. 460. ISBN 978-0-8179-4752-1.
• 2006. On Classical Economics. New Haven, Conn: Yale University Press. 2006. p. 320. ISBN 978-0-300-12606-8.
• 2005. Black Rednecks and White Liberals: And Other Cultural And Ethnic Issues. San Francisco: Encounter Books. p. 360. ISBN 978-1-59403-086-4.
• 2004. Affirmative Action Around the World: An Empirical Study. New Haven, Conn: Yale University Press. p. 256. ISBN 978-0-300-10775-3.
• 2004. Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy, revised and expanded ed. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-08145-2 (1st ed. 2000)
• 2003. Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One, ISBN 0-465-08143-6
• 2002. The Einstein Syndrome: Bright Children Who Talk Late, ISBN 0-465-08141-X
• 2002. Controversial Essays, ISBN 0-8179-2992-4
• 2002. A Personal Odyssey, ISBN 0-684-86465-7
• 2002. The Quest For Cosmic Justice, ISBN 0-684-86463-0
• 1998. Conquests and Cultures: An International History, ISBN 0-465-01400-3
• 1996. Migrations and Cultures: A World View, ISBN 0-465-04589-8 OCLC 41748039
• 1996. The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation As a Basis for Social Policy. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-08995-X
• 1995. Race and Culture: A World View. Description & chapter previews. ISBN 0-465-06796-4
• 1993. Is Reality Optional? ISBN 978-0817992620
• 1993. Inside American Education, ISBN 0-7432-5408-2
• 1990. Preferential Policies: An International Perspective, ISBN 0-688-08599-7
• 1987. A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political Struggles. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-06912-6
• 1987. Compassion Versus Guilt and Other Essays. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-07114-7
• 1986. Education: Assumptions Versus History. Hoover Press, ISBN 0-8179-8112-8
• 1985. Marxism: Philosophy and Economics. Quill, ISBN 0-688-06426-4
• 1984. Civil Rights: Rhetoric or Reality? William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-03113-7
• 1983. The Economics and Politics of Race. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-01891-2
• 1981. Ethnic America: A History. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-02074-7
• 1981. Markets and Minorities. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-04399-2
• 1980. Knowledge and Decisions. Basic Books.
• 1975. Race and Economics. David McKay Company Inc, ISBN 0-679-30262-X
• 1972. Say's Law: A Historical Analysis. Princeton University Press. ISBN 0-691-04166-0

A one percenter with something to sell.

Thomas Sowell is probably the most highly regarded proponent of the Chicago School of Economics now alive. He's taught at some of the best schools of higher learning in the nation. He's received dozens of awards for both economics and journalism.

THAT is who Thomas Sowell is...the amusing thing is that I highly doubt that Dr. Sowell is even CLOSE to being in the 1% that you're so obsessed by. He's an academic.

 

[OnePercenter]

I still think lower rates and cut all the bullshit and simplify things is a better option.

Unless of course your business is tax preparation.

Business putting people to work would be a better plan. Corporate America won't do anything good for America unless incentivized or regulated.

Government does not need to incentivize

Sowell is a well respected economist. You are someone who pretends to be a millionaire and have an MBA on an internet chat board.

Sowell is a hack, a 1%er with a book to sell.

Thomas Sowell is a hack? You continue to embarrass yourself. I had the good fortune to take an economics class with Dr. Sowell during his stay at Amherst College. He was one of the best professors I ever studied under. He doesn't have "a" book to sell since he is the author of many...

Books by Sowell

• 2013. Intellectuals and Race. Basic Books. p. 192. ISBN 978-0465058723.
• 2011. The Thomas Sowell Reader. Basic Books. p. 464. ISBN 978-0-465-02250-2.
• 2010. Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy (4th ed.). Cambridge, Mass: Perseus Books Group. ISBN 978-0-465-02252-6.
• 2010. Dismantling America. Basic Books. p. 352. ISBN 978-0-465-02251-9.
• 2010. Intellectuals and Society. Basic Books. p. 416. ISBN 978-0-465-01948-9.
• 2009. The Housing Boom and Bust. Basic Books. p. 184. ISBN 978-0-465-01880-2.
• 2008. Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One (2nd ed.). Basic Books. p. 400. ISBN 978-0-465-00345-7. OCLC 260206351.
• 2007. Economic Facts and Fallacies. Basic Books. p. 262. ISBN 978-0-465-00349-5.
• 2007. Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy (3rd ed.). Cambridge, Mass: Perseus Books Group. ISBN 978-0-465-00260-3. OCLC 76897806.
• 2007. A Man of Letters. San Francisco: Encounter Books. p. 320. ISBN 978-1-59403-196-0.
• 2006. Ever Wonder Why? And Other Controversial Essays. Stanford, CA: Hoover Institution Press. p. 460. ISBN 978-0-8179-4752-1.
• 2006. On Classical Economics. New Haven, Conn: Yale University Press. 2006. p. 320. ISBN 978-0-300-12606-8.
• 2005. Black Rednecks and White Liberals: And Other Cultural And Ethnic Issues. San Francisco: Encounter Books. p. 360. ISBN 978-1-59403-086-4.
• 2004. Affirmative Action Around the World: An Empirical Study. New Haven, Conn: Yale University Press. p. 256. ISBN 978-0-300-10775-3.
• 2004. Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy, revised and expanded ed. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-08145-2 (1st ed. 2000)
• 2003. Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One, ISBN 0-465-08143-6
• 2002. The Einstein Syndrome: Bright Children Who Talk Late, ISBN 0-465-08141-X
• 2002. Controversial Essays, ISBN 0-8179-2992-4
• 2002. A Personal Odyssey, ISBN 0-684-86465-7
• 2002. The Quest For Cosmic Justice, ISBN 0-684-86463-0
• 1998. Conquests and Cultures: An International History, ISBN 0-465-01400-3
• 1996. Migrations and Cultures: A World View, ISBN 0-465-04589-8 OCLC 41748039
• 1996. The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation As a Basis for Social Policy. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-08995-X
• 1995. Race and Culture: A World View. Description & chapter previews. ISBN 0-465-06796-4
• 1993. Is Reality Optional? ISBN 978-0817992620
• 1993. Inside American Education, ISBN 0-7432-5408-2
• 1990. Preferential Policies: An International Perspective, ISBN 0-688-08599-7
• 1987. A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political Struggles. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-06912-6
• 1987. Compassion Versus Guilt and Other Essays. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-07114-7
• 1986. Education: Assumptions Versus History. Hoover Press, ISBN 0-8179-8112-8
• 1985. Marxism: Philosophy and Economics. Quill, ISBN 0-688-06426-4
• 1984. Civil Rights: Rhetoric or Reality? William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-03113-7
• 1983. The Economics and Politics of Race. William Morrow, ISBN 0-688-01891-2
• 1981. Ethnic America: A History. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-02074-7
• 1981. Markets and Minorities. Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-04399-2
• 1980. Knowledge and Decisions. Basic Books.
• 1975. Race and Economics. David McKay Company Inc, ISBN 0-679-30262-X
• 1972. Say's Law: A Historical Analysis. Princeton University Press. ISBN 0-691-04166-0

A one percenter with something to sell.

Thomas Sowell is probably the most highly regarded proponent of the Chicago School of Economics now alive. He's taught at some of the best schools of higher learning in the nation. He's received dozens of awards for both economics and journalism.

THAT is who Thomas Sowell is...the amusing thing is that I highly doubt that Dr. Sowell is even CLOSE to being in the 1% that you're so obsessed by. He's an academic.

You say; 'Government does not need to incentivize' Really? The big box deals, the subsidies for oil companies? That didn't occur?

Thomas Sowell is a multimillionaire. He's a one percenter with something to sell, his books, his speaking fees, his teaching fees.

 

[bripat9643]

The middle class can't spend a dime without a job. So what you're saying is that jobs make jobs possible. Circular logic.

Spending makes jobs possible.

You can't spend a dime without a job, so once again what you've said is that jobs make jobs possible.

The main Dim economic theory is an example circular logic.

I stated 'Spending makes jobs possible.' Aren't subsidies spending?

The government can't spend a dime it hasn't taken from someone else.

 

[bripat9643]

Once again you are a ******* moron ......................

sub·si·dy
ˈsəbsədē/
noun
plural noun: subsidies

1. 1.
   a sum of money granted by the government or a public body to assist an industry or business so that the price of a commodity or service may remain low or competitive.
   "a farm subsidy"
   • a sum of money granted to support an arts organization or other undertaking held to be in the public interest.
   • a grant or contribution of money.
     

     synonyms:

     grant, allowance, endowment, contribution, donation, bursary, handout;More backing, support, sponsorship, finance, funding; formalbenefaction "the theater receives a subsidy of 1.7 million dollars a year"

     [TBODY] [/TBODY]
2. 2.
   historical
   a parliamentary grant to the sovereign for state needs.

We went down this road with the other moron already, see definition #1.
There is no mention of employee(s) receiving shit as it would do little to keep the price low or competitive.

Payroll taxes are paid in part by the employee and matched in part by the employer, even donating money to a worker who you perceive as under paid will actually not only negate any benefits but would actually deepen the governments indebtedness.

Hey Moron, sales tax comes from the sale of goods, you are arguing that giving dollars in aid will bring pennies in taxes ......................

subsidy
/ˈsʌbsɪdɪ/
noun (pl) -dies
1.
a financial aid supplied by a government, as to industry, for reasons of public welfare, the balance of payments, etc
2.
(English history) a financial grant made originally for special purposes by Parliament to the Crown
3.
any monetary contribution, grant, or aid

Make an argument that a tax deduction isn't aid.

Payroll taxes will triple. The business side is deductible.

The minimum wage will triple. What do you think will happen to sale tax receipts?

A tax deduction is not aid.
You don't know what you're talking about.

ALL deductions and exemptions and credits should be eliminated, for persons and corportations.

Every dime of income should be taxed at least 5%, but, no more than 20%.

That would balance the budget and pay off the debt.

And, put H&R Block et al out of business as the tax code would be simple, and most could prepare their own returns like "back in the day".

Seriously?
You understand that "deductions" include things like cost of labor, cost of material, and other costs of doing business, right?
I mean, you've actually filled out a tax form more complicated than the 1040EZ, right?

Pass the cost to the consumer, not the taxpayer.

Fuckin' special bennies like that are why people hate fuckin' Republicans even when they are right on lots of things.

NOBODY gets ANY slack on taxes.

Rates stay low.

Forms stay simple.

EVERYBODY with ANY income has skin in the game.

Its called Liberty.

Paying taxes is liberty?

God, are you ever and idiot.

 

[bripat9643]

Pass the cost to the consumer, not the taxpayer.

Fuckin' special bennies like that are why people hate fuckin' Republicans even when they are right on lots of things.

NOBODY gets ANY slack on taxes.

Rates stay low.

Forms stay simple.

EVERYBODY with ANY income has skin in the game.

Its called Liberty.

Placing an increased tax burden on the middle class is 'liberty.'

The middle class neglected their civic duty for decades in the mistaken belief that domestic tranquillity can be purchased by bread and circuses for the masses paid for by borrowed money.

They had their eyes glued to the TV while the nation turned to shit.

Liberty has to paid for by diligence and taxes.

Middle class did not pay their share of either.

How is placing an increased tax burden on the middle class 'liberty.'

It is paying for liberty.

They got off light as did many others, now we suck it up, pay off the debt, or die as a nation.

We don't have liberty, and what part of it didn't the middle class pay for?

 

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Ingenuity and private investment makes jobs possible. For example - Steve Jobs developed the iPad, promoted it's use for paperless books which peaked interest and created demand among consumers, this led to copycat products like the Kindle, which increased competition and demand among potential buyers, which LED to further spending and the creation of more jobs to meet the demand.

Without the ingenuity behind innovations like the iPad, Blue Ray players, Flat Screen televisions, supported by private investors, there would be no spike in consumer spending and a need for jobs to meet that demand.

Steve Jobs didn't develop the iPad, his employees did.

The LED and computer microchip were developed by NASA.

Wrong, they were developed by Bell Labs and Texas Instruments.