Grumblenuts
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Doge reduced warning and response time for the Texas flood.
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Lets be little more honest here.....
The agency lost over 560 employees earlier this year due to layoffs and early retirement incentives under the Trump administration.
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The Trump administration offered buyouts and early retirement incentives, which led to roughly 200 and 300 employees leaving, respectively.
Your definition of "Appropriate warnings": "Hey! Its flooding youre going to die!".
Appropriate warnings would have been "life threatening rain a possibility for underlying areas".
Nostra
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May have…….could have……..THIS IS SPECULATION……Doge taking a chain saw to our weather monitoring and warning systems and to FEMA has made the tragedy of the Texas flood even worse than it had to be. Those agencies were in place for a reason, and should have never been degraded by someone who didn't even understand why we need those agencies.
Yes, it's quite possible that victims of the recent Texas flood could have received earlier or more effective warnings if not for cuts and policy shifts tied to the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and former President Donald Trump's administration.
What Happened in Texas?
On July 4, 2025, catastrophic flash flooding struck areas along the Guadalupe River, leading to fatalities and widespread emergency rescues. Local authorities issued urgent warnings, but the scale and speed of the flooding overwhelmed many systems.
How DOGE and Trump’s Policies May Have Affected This
According to investigative reporting from the Texas Observer and San Antonio Current, the Trump administration’s DOGE initiative significantly impacted federal disaster preparedness and response:
- FEMA Cuts: DOGE slashed FEMA’s workforce by about 20% and froze parts of its funding.
- Disaster Aid Shift: Trump announced plans to phase out FEMA and shift disaster response responsibilities to individual states, arguing governors should handle emergencies independently.
- Climate Risk Data Degradation: DOGE reportedly dismantled or degraded federal resources that track and model climate-augmented weather risks, such as flood forecasting and early warning systems.
- Infrastructure Investment Delays: Federal support for flood prevention projects—like levees and drainage upgrades—was reduced or delayed, leaving vulnerable areas more exposed.
Could Earlier Warnings Have Been Possible?
While local agencies like the Harris County Flood Control District did issue warnings, the broader federal infrastructure that supports early detection, modeling, and communication of extreme weather risks may have been weakened. This could have:
- Reduced the lead time for warnings
- Limited the accuracy of flood forecasts
- Slowed coordination between federal and local responders
So while it's speculative to say definitively that lives would have been saved, the evidence strongly suggests that federal cuts and policy shifts under DOGE and Trump made Texas—and its residents—more vulnerable to disasters like this one.
What a ******* joke you
are.
FIrings were random and based on tenure. New hires and close to retirement. NO effort put on efficiency.
The new hires would not make up for all the personnel lost in the Trump administration’s cutbacks to the NWS and its parent organization, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. More offices are slated to transition to less-than-24/7 operations if additional staffing is not secured.
National Weather Service adding around 125 new hires after laying off hundreds | CNN
The new hires would not make up for all the personnel lost in the Trump administration’s cutbacks, but could reduce the number of offices that need to cut back on 24/7 operations.
amp.cnn.com
Nostra
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Show specifics. Your link full of moronic bed wetting contains ZERO facts. Just speculation from left wing hacks.
OODA_Loop
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Your definition of "Appropriate warnings": "Hey! Its flooding youre going to die!".
National Weather Service (NWS) meteorologists have warned people in Central Texas to move to higher ground on Friday, with the risk of heavy rain causing life-threatening flash floods across the region.
As much as 15 inches (38 cm) of rain have been reported north of San Angelo, NWS meteorologist James Wingenroth told Newsweek. The official rainfall report for San Angelo is 3.52 inches, which is more than three times the average for the entire month of July.
www.newsweek.com
Urgent Warning Issued Amid Major Texas Floods: 'Move to Higher Ground Now'
National Weather Service (NWS) meteorologists have warned people in Central Texas to move to higher ground on Friday, with the risk of heavy rain causing life-threatening flash floods across the region.
As much as 15 inches (38 cm) of rain have been reported north of San Angelo, NWS meteorologist James Wingenroth told Newsweek. The official rainfall report for San Angelo is 3.52 inches, which is more than three times the average for the entire month of July.
Urgent warning issued amid major Texas floods: "Move to higher ground now"
More heavy rain will hammer Central Texas, with one river expected to rise by 20 feet by Saturday morning.
www.newsweek.com
airplanemechanic
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How many more employees did we need to hire to have them make that statement?
Nostra
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FIrings were random and based on tenure. New hires and close to retirement. NO effort put on efficiency.
The new hires would not make up for all the personnel lost in the Trump administration’s cutbacks to the NWS and its parent organization, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. More offices are slated to transition to less-than-24/7 operations if additional staffing is not secured.
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National Weather Service adding around 125 new hires after laying off hundreds | CNN
The new hires would not make up for all the personnel lost in the Trump administration’s cutbacks, but could reduce the number of offices that need to cut back on 24/7 operations.
Whew! What a relief. Now Texas will be able to track rain.
FIrings were random and based on tenure. New hires and close to retirement. NO effort put on efficiency.
The new hires would not make up for all the personnel lost in the Trump administration’s cutbacks to the NWS and its parent organization, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. More offices are slated to transition to less-than-24/7 operations if additional staffing is not secured.
View attachment 1132652
National Weather Service adding around 125 new hires after laying off hundreds | CNN
The new hires would not make up for all the personnel lost in the Trump administration’s cutbacks, but could reduce the number of offices that need to cut back on 24/7 operations.
The Trump administration offered buyouts and early retirement incentives, which led to roughly 200 and 300 employees leaving, respectively.
Yep. Like i said. "Floods are here move to higher ground!"Your definition of "Appropriate warnings": "Hey! Its flooding youre going to die!".
Urgent Warning Issued Amid Major Texas Floods: 'Move to Higher Ground Now'
National Weather Service (NWS) meteorologists have warned people in Central Texas to move to higher ground on Friday, with the risk of heavy rain causing life-threatening flash floods across the region.
As much as 15 inches (38 cm) of rain have been reported north of San Angelo, NWS meteorologist James Wingenroth told Newsweek. The official rainfall report for San Angelo is 3.52 inches, which is more than three times the average for the entire month of July.
Urgent warning issued amid major Texas floods: "Move to higher ground now"
More heavy rain will hammer Central Texas, with one river expected to rise by 20 feet by Saturday morning.
People working for them are coopted.
We are talking about dozens of dead due to incompetence. You should understand that as an expert since you go through life incompetent all the time. There are a lot of fathers in Texas that want to talk to you about your compassion. Go down there with a sign that says "Its just rain".Whew! What a relief. Now Texas will be able to track rain.
OODA_Loop
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Flash floods - how do they work ?
1srelluc
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I see another leftist idiot has joined the conversation.
Damn, I would have hoped you died-off after Trump signed the BBB seeing how you people claimed everyone was gonna die.
Much disappoint.
From rain that is easily forecasted in ranges that did not happen here.
Meteorologists say NWS cuts degraded forecasts during recent storms
The National Weather Service’s reduction in weather balloon launches meant forecasters had less data available when the central U.S. got hammered with hail and tornadoes.
www.nbcnews.com
Extreme Weather Slams the Midwest and Southern U.S. Amid Staffing Shortages at the National Weather Service - Inside Climate News
More than 25 people have died amid catastrophic tornadoes and storms in these regions. Critics say that Trump-era cuts to weather agencies could affect future forecasts and warning systems.
insideclimatenews.org
Trump administration's spending cuts put National Weather Service's effectiveness at risk
Staffing reductions at the National Weather Service have raised concerns about the accuracy and timeliness of critical weather warnings this hurricane season.
www.ksby.com
OODA_Loop
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From rain that is easily forecasted in ranges that did not happen here.
Meteorologists say NWS cuts degraded forecasts during recent storms
The National Weather Service’s reduction in weather balloon launches meant forecasters had less data available when the central U.S. got hammered with hail and tornadoes.
From your link:
“The National Weather Service is committed to delivering accurate, timely, and life-saving forecasts despite speculation,” said Kim Doster, communications director for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. “Through strategic transformation, staff reallocation, and updated service standards, NWS is ensuring resilience and continuity of mission-critical functions. Reports suggesting otherwise are false and disrespectful to the many weather scientists who work tirelessly to produce the best weather data in the world.”
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Flowing uphill.
Yep. And staffed correctly they could have fulfilled that mission. Instead they are scrambling to hire back 1 out of every 4 people they fired - for now. What a shit show.
OODA_Loop
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They did fulfill the mission - they issued warnings.
Many people in the same area were saved by going to higher ground / evading flood waters.
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