Doge reduced warning and response time for the Texas flood.

[Delldude]

see#26
Now, even the emergency people in texas are blaming the gutted National Weather Service.

The National Water Center warned several rivers would face serious flooding by Friday afternoon, including the Colorado River near San Saba, Texas; the Guadalupe River near Comfort, Texas; the Guadalupe River near Kerrville, Texas; and the Guadalupe River near Hunt, Texas.

 

[OODA_Loop]

No one had the power to prevent it, but we could have predicted it sooner and better before the doge cuts.

The NWS issued appropriate flood warnings.

Severe weather gonna severe weather.

 

[BULLDOG]

Whether what you say is true or not is questionable because of the endless lies. However, we have a long way to go nationally before we enter California territory in disaster regards. 2nd and 3rd world nation would become 4th world nations with the political class that is in charge of California.

Doge gutted the National Weather Service for the entire country.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I don't. Ever hear of technology? It's all pretty much automated and the local sources are far more intimate with the area and risks.

The NWS was cut because it was not only bloated but also outright obese. A belief that bringing staffing in line with workload seems to be foreign to you, but not to the rest of us.

The river rose 23 feet in 45 minutes. No amount of staffing at the NWS would have prevented that, nor warned the locals.

No body is saying better predictions would have prevented the rise.

It's that better weather forecasting would have predicted the rise earlier and allowed more time for evacuations.

Please be honest.

WW

 

[Seth]

see#26
Now, even the emergency people in texas are blaming the gutted National Weather Service.

Fair enough—if local emergency teams are pointing fingers at the National Weather Service, that definitely adds weight to the argument. I’ll have to dig into what “gutted” means in this case—cut staff? Downgraded tech? Less coordination?

Still, I can’t help but feel like we’ve entered a weird era where blaming Washington is the new weather forecast: “Mostly cloudy with a 70% chance of federal neglect.”

Not saying the cuts didn’t matter—just wondering how much of the system’s effectiveness relies on D.C. versus how much falls apart when local infrastructure is already stretched thin.

Appreciate the follow-up. Good convo.

 

[OODA_Loop]

No body is saying better predictions would have prevented the rise.

It's that better weather forecasting would have predicted the rise earlier and allowed more time for evacuations.

Please be honest.

WW

Forecasting is prediction.

 

[BULLDOG]

May? Speculative? Reportedly?

Looks like NWS was on top of it.

The National Water Center warned several rivers would face serious flooding by Friday afternoon, including the Colorado River near San Saba, Texas; the Guadalupe River near Comfort, Texas; the Guadalupe River near Kerrville, Texas; and the Guadalupe River near Hunt, Texas.

The Texas Weather people are blaming the NWS for not predicting it to be as bad as it was. That happens with an understaffed agency. See #26

 

[BULLDOG]

Billshit.
Leave it to a worthless leftist traitor to blame a natural disaster on a politician.
Many little girls tragically killed and you take the opportunity to spew your Trump hate.
You are truly the lowest of human scum.

 

[BothWings]

The demented LEFT are addicted to weather related CRISES to further their cause. The whole lot of them should dive into a ******* volcano to appease their climate gods.

They always exploit crises of any kind to attack their political opposition. And I might argue that they also deliberately create or contribute to some crises to facilitate those attacks.

 

[Darkwind]

No body is saying better predictions would have prevented the rise.

It's that better weather forecasting would have predicted the rise earlier and allowed more time for evacuations.

Please be honest.

WW

I am not the one being dishonest.

The cuts to the NWS were not responsible for this tragedy. It has already been shown in this thread that there was significant warning about flooding. It is impossible to get adequate warning for a river that will go from 3ft depth to 26 foot flood stage in 45 minutes.

The entire premise that cuts to NWS are responsible for these deaths is beyond disgusting. It is tantamount to standing on the bodies of dead children and advocating for more government control.

 

[BULLDOG]

The National Water Center warned several rivers would face serious flooding by Friday afternoon, including the Colorado River near San Saba, Texas; the Guadalupe River near Comfort, Texas; the Guadalupe River near Kerrville, Texas; and the Guadalupe River near Hunt, Texas.

Sure. You didn't watch the video, did you?

 

[SmokeALib]

Those agencies capabilities were reduced. Can't just wish that part away.

Reduced how dumbass. The watch was broadcast Thursday night and the warning issued shortly after at 1:00 a.m. Friday morning. What else could they have done - hand out flyers?

 

[22lcidw]

see#26
Now, even the emergency people in texas are blaming the gutted National Weather Service.

How do we compete with a rising nation like China, while we pay everyone off for compassion? Tell us how to produce manufacturing with all of the taxations in all ways needed to do this while China does not have the same issues. How do we compete? You see, someone has to do the slug work for others to live well. We are so spoiled we have a fair portion of an uneducated population who supposedly will not do the work newer immigrants and illegals do here. And this is from you who make those statements. So, workers in foreign lands are okay to be treated as semi slaves yet those here who are semi slaves in menial work according to you are to be used as propaganda because no citizens will work it according to you while you live the life of riley and have nothing in the game to suffer from.

 

[BULLDOG]

The NWS issued appropriate flood warnings.

Severe weather gonna severe weather.

Not according to the weather people in texas. Seems all severe weather isn't the same.

 

[OODA_Loop]

The Texas Weather people are blaming the NWS for not predicting it to be as bad as it was. That happens with an understaffed agency. See #26

From the posted X

The "Texas Weather People" said they fine tuned the NWS predictions and none of the predictions by local or NWS reflect the reality that happened.

You cant always predict the weather.

 

[pknopp]

God bringing his wrath down on Texas.

(Since Pat Robertson is gone, just filling in for him)

 

[BULLDOG]

Fair enough—if local emergency teams are pointing fingers at the National Weather Service, that definitely adds weight to the argument. I’ll have to dig into what “gutted” means in this case—cut staff? Downgraded tech? Less coordination?

Still, I can’t help but feel like we’ve entered a weird era where blaming Washington is the new weather forecast: “Mostly cloudy with a 70% chance of federal neglect.”

Not saying the cuts didn’t matter—just wondering how much of the system’s effectiveness relies on D.C. versus how much falls apart when local infrastructure is already stretched thin.

Appreciate the follow-up. Good convo.

Gutting means all of the above. Local infrastructure was depending on the national forecast. Seems the locals went by the book, but were dependent on incomplete/faulty information.

 

[1srelluc]

What self-serving leftist BS. OP should hang his head in shame.....If leftists had any shame.

Flash Flood Warnings were issued the same as always. During a FF warning it's up to you to seek higher ground, not the .gov..

If you can show me any FF warning forecast that predicts a 26' rise in river level in 45 minutes it will be a first.

Hell, around here you get so many warnings when a system goes through you can't hardly watch TV.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Ie. the nws did not forecast accurately or provide a range that warned Americans they could die.

Thanks Trump!

Yes! Because the NWS was never wrong before Trump!

 

[SmokeALib]

SmokeALib

Hey dumfuck - what does a inaccurate weather forecast have to do with weeding out waste?
The warnings were issued.
The camp leaders didn't take the required action to seek higher ground.