Does Trump Take Full Responsibility or Not?

[jbrownson0831]

Not fighting anything. Just telling it like it is. Subject is not Spanish Flu. It is Coronavirus in 2020, trump leading the country and cultists astray, causing massive loss of life, and failure to take responsibility for it. You guy have been pointing to every other conceivable person, country, societal attribute and unproven fact, to join him in refusing to take responsibility for it, yet we are racking a the #1 death-toll on the planet.

That's because we have 340 million people here. The President does not control a virus. He doesn't have the power from God, nor the right in the Constitution to control the people.

Doesn't have to lead them to doom though. Follow him if you like, but can't recommend it.

The only people that were led to doom lived in states with Dem governors.

You mean like Florida and Texas? How about TN?

Well let's take a look at those states since you brought them up......FL has 16,349 deaths in a total of 771,780 cases for a mortality rate of 2.1%....Texas 17,878 deaths in 896,241 cases for a mortality rate of 1.9%. Tennessee is at 3011 deaths in 237,907 cases for a rate of 1.3%. So in NY have33,536 deaths in 526,281 cases and NJ just for fun 16,399 deaths in 229,372 cases for mortality rates of 6.4% and oooh 7.1% now what was your point?

Just pointing out it is not only blue states, which we know trump does not care about, but red states also. We are 10th in cases, about 21st in death, and your percentage may or may not be correct, but those Tennesseans are just as dead as the people in the Blue states. TN opened back up when he said, just like Fla and Tex. Who knew in a red state you had to ignore the president as a constant liar for survival? He is losing the senior vote, because it was not only blue states he didn't care about, but he said it was mostly a problem for old people. Seniors are turning against him out of survival.

Governors are elected and are responsible for the condition of their states and the safety of the people therin. The discrepancies between mortality results in red and blue states using the exact same virus for comparison show not any incompetence by the President, but by a party who pretends to care for people but really do not. As for old people, they are susceptible to many dangers, Covid among them, but once you have reached your average lifespan things like mersa, staph, tuberculosis, flu, pneumonia,etc, etc, are going to attack and weaken your immune system. That is not the President's fault, libber.

Hopefully you realize you are convincing nobody as minds are made up. Wasting time on me, as I already voted for Joe Biden for President after being in line before the early voting poll opened last week.

Funny that you think I was trying to convince anyone of actual facts. There is no convincing required of the truth, just a brain to understand it.

 

[esalla]

Not fighting anything. Just telling it like it is. Subject is not Spanish Flu. It is Coronavirus in 2020, trump leading the country and cultists astray, causing massive loss of life, and failure to take responsibility for it. You guy have been pointing to every other conceivable person, country, societal attribute and unproven fact, to join him in refusing to take responsibility for it, yet we are racking a the #1 death-toll on the planet.

That's because we have 340 million people here. The President does not control a virus. He doesn't have the power from God, nor the right in the Constitution to control the people.

Doesn't have to lead them to doom though. Follow him if you like, but can't recommend it.

The only people that were led to doom lived in states with Dem governors.

You mean like Florida and Texas? How about TN?

Well let's take a look at those states since you brought them up......FL has 16,349 deaths in a total of 771,780 cases for a mortality rate of 2.1%....Texas 17,878 deaths in 896,241 cases for a mortality rate of 1.9%. Tennessee is at 3011 deaths in 237,907 cases for a rate of 1.3%. So in NY have33,536 deaths in 526,281 cases and NJ just for fun 16,399 deaths in 229,372 cases for mortality rates of 6.4% and oooh 7.1% now what was your point?

Just pointing out it is not only blue states, which we know trump does not care about, but red states also. We are 10th in cases, about 21st in death, and your percentage may or may not be correct, but those Tennesseans are just as dead as the people in the Blue states. TN opened back up when he said, just like Fla and Tex. Who knew in a red state you had to ignore the president as a constant liar for survival? He is losing the senior vote, because it was not only blue states he didn't care about, but he said it was mostly a problem for old people. Seniors are turning against him out of survival.

Governors are elected and are responsible for the condition of their states and the safety of the people therin. The discrepancies between mortality results in red and blue states using the exact same virus for comparison show not any incompetence by the President, but by a party who pretends to care for people but really do not. As for old people, they are susceptible to many dangers, Covid among them, but once you have reached your average lifespan things like mersa, staph, tuberculosis, flu, pneumonia,etc, etc, are going to attack and weaken your immune system. That is not the President's fault, libber.

Hopefully you realize you are convincing nobody as minds are made up. Wasting time on me, as I already voted for Joe Biden for President after being in line before the early voting poll opened last week.

Lol you also voted for hillary

Whaaaaaaa!a

Next fool

 

[Godboy]

I had no problem with the ban. I had and have a problem with him convincing trumpers it was not serious and would be over soon

Why do you have a problem with that?

Aversion to liars and the damage cause by their lies I guess. Probably a personal hang up.

What damage are you referring to?

In this case, the damage caused to the effort to fight and control the spread of the virus, by his lying about the seriousness and his other efforts to minimize the situation, while the dying continued.

How did it affect anyone? Did people somehow become less resistant to coronavirus due to Trump trying to calm people?

 

[jc456]

I had no problem with the ban. I had and have a problem with him convincing trumpers it was not serious and would be over soon

Why do you have a problem with that?

Aversion to liars and the damage cause by their lies I guess. Probably a personal hang up.

What damage are you referring to?

In this case, the damage caused to the effort to fight and control the spread of the virus, by his lying about the seriousness and his other efforts to minimize the situation, while the dying continued.

explain how that works exactly? So if trump said it was serious no one would have died? Would your body all of the sudden gain antibodies and not get the virus? how does that work? what was the scientist name that said not promoting seriousness meant fewer cases? please.

 

[esalla]

I had no problem with the ban. I had and have a problem with him convincing trumpers it was not serious and would be over soon

Why do you have a problem with that?

Aversion to liars and the damage cause by their lies I guess. Probably a personal hang up.

What damage are you referring to?

In this case, the damage caused to the effort to fight and control the spread of the virus, by his lying about the seriousness and his other efforts to minimize the situation, while the dying continued.

How did it affect anyone? Did people somehow become less resistant to coronavirus due to Trump trying to calm people?

Faucy and the cdc lied to the public, but biden does not care

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Hopefully you realize you are convincing nobody as minds are made up. Wasting time on me, as I already voted for Joe Biden for President after being in line before the early voting poll opened last week.

No, nobody will convince you, and probably only a few who are on your side. However, if Biden does win and the deterioration of this country follows, which it will, especially if he keeps the House and gets the Senate, we will be here to remind all of you what you did to this country. And we will await how many years you will be protecting your decision by blaming all his hardships on this current President.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Doesn't have to lead them to doom though. Follow him if you like, but can't recommend it.

He didn't lead people into anything. As Americans, we all make our own individual decisions. Nobody obeys a politician like they do a king who faces death for no compliance. We all knew about this virus, all information was learned at the same time, we heard our medical specialists give recommendations, and we either followed those recommendations or we didn't.

 

[Crepitus]

He lied. Get it straight. He said it was not serious. Was it serious? 228,000 dead is pretty serious.

Two things to consider

Is the official death count accurate or inflated?

I think its inflated

And is trump to blame for any of the actual deaths from the wuflu?

I dont think so

We are all going to catch the chinese disease in our own good time.

and when we do about .4% of us are going to die whether we go about living our lives and providing economic security for our family - or cower in the basement like Sleepy Joe Biden.

The official death count is an undercount. Excess mortality for the first ten months of this year vs last it is over 300,000. Stop spreading misinformation. You're literally killing people.

Oh good grief, now Mac-7 is killing people? You people have taken Alinsky to a whole new evil level.

Everyone spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories about the virus is killing people.

From mac7 all the way up to tRump. This crap doesn't spread itself.

Just because you live in a CNN bubble, and some alternate reality fueled by hatred for your fellow American, doesn't mean that facts are "misinformation".... That is just your claim.... Meaningless.

Sorry, I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing at some bloody tRumpling, a rabid consumer of RWNJ infotainment junk, accusing me of living in a bubble.

Be patient, I may be a while.

 

[Crepitus]

He lied. Get it straight. He said it was not serious. Was it serious? 228,000 dead is pretty serious.

Two things to consider

Is the official death count accurate or inflated?

I think its inflated

And is trump to blame for any of the actual deaths from the wuflu?

I dont think so

We are all going to catch the chinese disease in our own good time.

and when we do about .4% of us are going to die whether we go about living our lives and providing economic security for our family - or cower in the basement like Sleepy Joe Biden.

The official death count is an undercount. Excess mortality for the first ten months of this year vs last it is over 300,000. Stop spreading misinformation. You're literally killing people.

Oh good grief, now Mac-7 is killing people? You people have taken Alinsky to a whole new evil level.

Everyone spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories about the virus is killing people.

From mac7 all the way up to tRump. This crap doesn't spread itself.

Just because you live in a CNN bubble, and some alternate reality fueled by hatred for your fellow American, doesn't mean that facts are "misinformation".... That is just your claim.... Meaningless.

You're not arguing with a poster you're arguing with an information center or should I say disinformation center. He's just one member of it. There are very few REAL liberal posters here most of them work for the DNC....I learned about that when I was on another board and was pretty good friends with the board owner.....

JO

I don't work for anyone but myself, and my business isn't political in the slightest.

 

[Crepitus]

Excess mortality for the first ten months of this year vs last it is over 300,000.

Do you have a link to that?

I would very much like to study your claim

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19

Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.

www.cdc.gov

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19, by Age and ...

This report describes the estimated excess deaths reported in the United States from late January through October 3, 2020, with 66% excess deaths attributed to COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

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Where did you find the 300,000 number?

Read the links.

 

[Crepitus]

Excess mortality for the first ten months of this year vs last it is over 300,000.

Do you have a link to that?

I would very much like to study your claim

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19

Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.

www.cdc.gov

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19, by Age and ...

This report describes the estimated excess deaths reported in the United States from late January through October 3, 2020, with 66% excess deaths attributed to COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

.

Where did you find the 300,000 number?

It's bullshit....the fact is that the National All Causes death numbers have not moved even one half percent.....now there's a statistic they cannot wish away. What is very suspicious though is the fact that both flu and pneumonia numbers are waaaay down this year.....Hmmmm....maybe they borrowed a lot of deaths to pad their phony pandemic claims???....probably.

JO

That's a lie. It's all documented right there for you to see.

 

[beautress]

Trump on taking responsibility about Coronavirus.
One day he says he doesn't, and tonight he says "does?"
Which version is correct?

"President Donald Trump tried to claim he is taking “full responsibility” over the coronavirus pandemic during the final presidential debate."

This is what he says is taking “full responsibility:
“I take full responsibility. It’s not my fault that it came here, it’s China’s fault.”

"Back in March Trump infamously told reporters, “I don’t take responsibility at all.”

Trump on coronavirus: ‘I take full responsibility – it’s not my fault’

President Donald Trump tried claim he is taking "full responsibility" over the coronavirus pandemic during the final presidential debate.This is what he says is taking "full responsibility":"I take full responsibility. It's not my fault that it came here, it's China's fault."Back in March Trump...

www.rawstory.com

it all depends on his responsibility for it,,,

the covid was because of the governors not him,,,

Don't play coy. He can't have it both ways. It's dishonest as hell.

Well kiss my grits. Another Democrat finds error in humility of a man who saved millions of American lives from covid infections by cutting travel from hotspots of covid abroad.

 

[esalla]

He lied. Get it straight. He said it was not serious. Was it serious? 228,000 dead is pretty serious.

Two things to consider

Is the official death count accurate or inflated?

I think its inflated

And is trump to blame for any of the actual deaths from the wuflu?

I dont think so

We are all going to catch the chinese disease in our own good time.

and when we do about .4% of us are going to die whether we go about living our lives and providing economic security for our family - or cower in the basement like Sleepy Joe Biden.

The official death count is an undercount. Excess mortality for the first ten months of this year vs last it is over 300,000. Stop spreading misinformation. You're literally killing people.

Oh good grief, now Mac-7 is killing people? You people have taken Alinsky to a whole new evil level.

Everyone spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories about the virus is killing people.

From mac7 all the way up to tRump. This crap doesn't spread itself.

Just because you live in a CNN bubble, and some alternate reality fueled by hatred for your fellow American, doesn't mean that facts are "misinformation".... That is just your claim.... Meaningless.

Sorry, I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing at some bloody tRumpling, a rabid consumer of RWNJ infotainment junk, accusing me of living in a bubble.

Be patient, I may be a while.

You are the fool who wants to pay more taxes...........................

Why?

Because you are on welfare anyway

 

[jbrownson0831]

He lied. Get it straight. He said it was not serious. Was it serious? 228,000 dead is pretty serious.

Two things to consider

Is the official death count accurate or inflated?

I think its inflated

And is trump to blame for any of the actual deaths from the wuflu?

I dont think so

We are all going to catch the chinese disease in our own good time.

and when we do about .4% of us are going to die whether we go about living our lives and providing economic security for our family - or cower in the basement like Sleepy Joe Biden.

The official death count is an undercount. Excess mortality for the first ten months of this year vs last it is over 300,000. Stop spreading misinformation. You're literally killing people.

Oh good grief, now Mac-7 is killing people? You people have taken Alinsky to a whole new evil level.

Everyone spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories about the virus is killing people.

From mac7 all the way up to tRump. This crap doesn't spread itself.

Just because you live in a CNN bubble, and some alternate reality fueled by hatred for your fellow American, doesn't mean that facts are "misinformation".... That is just your claim.... Meaningless.

Sorry, I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing at some bloody tRumpling, a rabid consumer of RWNJ infotainment junk, accusing me of living in a bubble.

Be patient, I may be a while.

You are the fool who wants to pay more taxes...........................

Why?

Because you are on welfare anyway

Yep he ain't payin.

 

[Crepitus]

He lied. Get it straight. He said it was not serious. Was it serious? 228,000 dead is pretty serious.

Two things to consider

Is the official death count accurate or inflated?

I think its inflated

And is trump to blame for any of the actual deaths from the wuflu?

I dont think so

We are all going to catch the chinese disease in our own good time.

and when we do about .4% of us are going to die whether we go about living our lives and providing economic security for our family - or cower in the basement like Sleepy Joe Biden.

The official death count is an undercount. Excess mortality for the first ten months of this year vs last it is over 300,000. Stop spreading misinformation. You're literally killing people.

Oh good grief, now Mac-7 is killing people? You people have taken Alinsky to a whole new evil level.

Everyone spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories about the virus is killing people.

From mac7 all the way up to tRump. This crap doesn't spread itself.

Just because you live in a CNN bubble, and some alternate reality fueled by hatred for your fellow American, doesn't mean that facts are "misinformation".... That is just your claim.... Meaningless.

Sorry, I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing at some bloody tRumpling, a rabid consumer of RWNJ infotainment junk, accusing me of living in a bubble.

Be patient, I may be a while.

You are the fool who wants to pay more taxes...........................

Why?

Because you are on welfare anyway

Laughing even harder now! Stop, please! Can't breath.....

 

[jc456]

Sorry, I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing at some bloody tRumpling, a rabid consumer of RWNJ infotainment junk, accusing me of living in a bubble

When you getting out?

 

[jc456]

That's a lie. It's all documented right there for you to see

Naw, see you caved to their scare tactics. We didn’t. Flu, heart disease, pneumonia flu, cancer. You think Trump cured all them huh?

 

[Crepitus]

That's a lie. It's all documented right there for you to see

Naw, see you caved to their scare tactics. We didn’t. Flu, heart disease, pneumonia flu, cancer. You think Trump cured all them huh?

Do me a favor. Define the phrase "excess mortality" for me.

 

[jc456]

That's a lie. It's all documented right there for you to see

Naw, see you caved to their scare tactics. We didn’t. Flu, heart disease, pneumonia flu, cancer. You think Trump cured all them huh?

Do me a favor. Define the phrase "excess mortality" for me.

You didn’t answer my question. I’ll answer yours right after.

 

[esalla]

He lied. Get it straight. He said it was not serious. Was it serious? 228,000 dead is pretty serious.

Two things to consider

Is the official death count accurate or inflated?

I think its inflated

And is trump to blame for any of the actual deaths from the wuflu?

I dont think so

We are all going to catch the chinese disease in our own good time.

and when we do about .4% of us are going to die whether we go about living our lives and providing economic security for our family - or cower in the basement like Sleepy Joe Biden.

The official death count is an undercount. Excess mortality for the first ten months of this year vs last it is over 300,000. Stop spreading misinformation. You're literally killing people.

Oh good grief, now Mac-7 is killing people? You people have taken Alinsky to a whole new evil level.

Everyone spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories about the virus is killing people.

From mac7 all the way up to tRump. This crap doesn't spread itself.

Just because you live in a CNN bubble, and some alternate reality fueled by hatred for your fellow American, doesn't mean that facts are "misinformation".... That is just your claim.... Meaningless.

Sorry, I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing at some bloody tRumpling, a rabid consumer of RWNJ infotainment junk, accusing me of living in a bubble.

Be patient, I may be a while.

You are the fool who wants to pay more taxes...........................

Why?

Because you are on welfare anyway

Laughing even harder now! Stop, please! Can't breath.....

You are the fool who wants to pay more taxes...........................

Why?

Because you are on welfare anyway

Yawn